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To think visiting DP’s family doesn’t count as a holiday?

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RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 12:54

Been with my partner for 5 years and we have a 2 year old daughter. He is from a country in Central Europe. Every August we go for a week, and every other Christmas (we alternate between my family and his). This Christmas we are due to go there.

Before the baby we would have 2 holidays a year (not including the semi-annual Christmas visit) one to visit his family, and one to a nice resort type place. Since the baby, we can’t afford to do this. The Summer trip and Christmas trip are in the budget, but another holiday on top of that isn’t doable, and we couldn’t get the time off anyway.

I have nothing against his family but the trips to the village my partner grew up in aren’t particularly relaxing for me. We fly into the airport in the capital city, then have a 5 hour train and bus journey to get to his village, and I get motion sickness from buses. We also often have a late flight and end up waiting at the dodgy city train station until early morning when the trains start running and last time I got harassed by beggars on the platform when I was heard speaking English, DP gave them short shrift thankfully but it was still scary. DD is also starting to develop bus motion sickness so I’m dreading that part of the journey.

His family don’t speak any English, which is fine, I shouldn’t expect them too. But their language is notoriously hard to learn (please no comments about me needing to learn it, it’s literally known as one of the hardest languages in the world and I have a toddler and work full-time) and despite my efforts I have really struggle to have conversations with them beyond basic politeness. The past 2 times we’ve been they have pestered DP that I need to hurry up and learn the language. His father is a smoker and alcoholic and the house stinks of smoke, so since the baby we stay with his aunt instead, and DP’s father always argues with DP about it as he gets offended that we won’t bring the baby in his house. Also, the first time we took DD at 4 months she developed a temperature and had to be taken on the bus to the hospital and everyone was talking around me in their own language (doctors, DP and family) and I was distraught not knowing what was going on, having to wait for DP to translate. I’m scared of this happening again. DD is also a picky eater and the village shop is tiny and won’t have any of her ‘safe’ foods.

On the other hand, there are some positives.They are very hospitable and they cook for us etc, we have BBQs and days out in the nearest city (though this does require long bus trips). But in the village there is not much phone signal and once they start drinking and having a laugh I am completely excluded and don’t understand a word that is being said.

I understand that DP needs to maintain a relationship with his family and that I signed up for this when committing to him, but I must admit I’m dying for a proper holiday this Summer where I can relax, beachfront walks, play with DD in the pool etc. Just the 3 of us. I raised the idea to DP of doing this instead as we’re going to his country for Christmas anyway, and he was horrified. He also pointed out that his country gets hot in the Summer (it does, can reach 30 degrees), and therefore it still counts as a sunny holiday. He also points out that going to his country we only pay for flights and spends (probably around £1000 for the 3 of us). I found some lovely all-inclusive for £1800, and we could afford that extra £800 but we couldn’t afford that AND the Summer trip to his country AND the Christmas trip.

I’m tempted to tell him that me and DD will swerve the trip to his country this year, and may invite my sister to come somewhere with me and DD instead. But I’m worried this will upset him and his family who absolutely adore my DD.

AIBU?

OP posts:
RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 15:59

Even if we offered to pay for them to come here or have a big family holiday somewhere else I think they’d decline. The elderly family members have only left the vicinity of their village a handful of times, and the aunt is scared of flying. They would never get on a plane. Father-in-law would probably come but would be problematic due to the alcoholism.

OP posts:
Namerequired · 10/05/2025 15:59

Could you pay for his parents to come visit you instead?

MoodSwingSet · 10/05/2025 15:57

I'm from another country. DH gets along just fine with my parents and they speak some English. But like OPs ILs, they live in a small village, there really isn't much to do there. So he would come if we go for Xmas, but me and DC visit more often without him. Works for everybody.
I would also guess OPs ILs are more interested in spending time with their son and grandchild anyway.

reluctantbrit · 10/05/2025 15:56

We are living abroad. We would see our parents max once a year and that meant 2 trips as they don't live near each other.
We had the luxery that they could come to us but also max once a year.

From day one moving away we were very clear that a trip to see them is not a holiday. It is not relaxing and there isn't even a language issue.

There are plenty of other ways to keep contact. Things like face time, zoom calls, letters, phone calls. DD is now 18 and has a very close relationship to her grandparents, she chats with my MIL on WhatsApp on her own on a regular basis.

We did some holidays to our home country to make sure DD learns about her birth culture, she is bi-lingual, and yes, sometimes we stopped on the way to see family but definitely not everytime and not for more than 1-2 days.

While I can understand your DH to be in contact and I think it's important for your child to learn about this side of his family, as a couple you have to compromise.

Him going on his own is one idea, he can bring your child and you stay behind. We did this several times as well.

Thegodfatherreturns · 10/05/2025 15:54

Wonderberry · 10/05/2025 15:21

I have family that live in a similar setting to your in laws OP. I also didn't know the language, but made a big effort to learn it (similarly tough language). Can you do lessons? Even just a basic level will help you.

Much easier to just not visit.

SnugNightsss · 10/05/2025 15:53

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 15:42

And? It doesn’t matter.

Your comment was about how terrible not to take them for one week, when the other 51 are spent away from them, but she is going for a week at Xmas. He decided to live overseas. She deserves a holiday! So he’ll have to go alone or wait until Xmas. It’s 2025 he can still stay in touch with them with phone calls.

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 15:42

SnugNightsss · 10/05/2025 13:23

But she’s going for a week at Xmas!

And? It doesn’t matter.

WearyAuldWumman · 10/05/2025 15:40

Those who are complaining that the OP is being unfair: can you imagine how you would feel if you were required to go "on holiday" in exactly the same town or village as your relatives every time? [ETA Bearing in mind that no other break is being allowed in addition to this?]

No decent public transport, no way of getting out and about, nothing in the town or village bar houses and maybe one shop?

Having to deal with an alcoholic relative on top of that?

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 15:40

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 15:20

He lived in the UK 10 years before meeting me, and would never consider living in Hungary due to the lack of jobs in his field. He isn’t living in the UK purely for me.

Edited

It doesn’t matter and that’s the part you don’t understand. He wants to bring his child ‘home’ to his parents, family and friends:

Respectfully unless you have moved abroad and have lived abroad no matter your feelings on it you won’t understand.

delightfuldweeb · 10/05/2025 15:39

Ablondiebutagoody · 10/05/2025 13:24

You sound very selfish. It's his family ffs. I think it sounds like a nice trip

How does it sound like a nice trip?!

DT77 · 10/05/2025 15:38

2 holidays a year to Hungary is not fair on you considering this benefits your husband more than you in many ways.
In your shoes, I would tell your husband that going forwards, you’ll only be having 1 holiday a year to Hungary and the other holiday will be a holiday just for the 3 of you.
You could rent out an air bnb or villa and invite them to stay when in Hungary if this makes things easier for you. If your husband wants to see his family more often, then he can go by himself.

SoloSofa24 · 10/05/2025 15:38

Duty visits to family do not count as holiday in my opinion, even if they all speak English.

I'm British, as was DH, but we lived on the other side of the world for years, and both DC were born there. We used to come back to the UK for a couple of weeks every summer to see our families, who were scattered around England and Scotland.

It was bad enough when it was just the two of us, but by the time we were dragging two small children round with us it was utterly exhausting. By the end of the trip at least one of the children was always ill, they were both grumpy and out of routine, and we got home feeling frazzled and in need of a holiday. So our actual holiday every year was going somewhere completely different where we could relax without family obligations.

A week in a place where you don't speak the language (and Hungarian is definitely not something you can just pick up on Duolingo), there is nothing to do and you are surrounded by people drinking and smoking does not sound like a holiday to me, so you are not at all unreasonable not to want to do it twice a year to the exclusion of any possibility of an actual relaxing holiday.

Could your DP take your DC by himself and you go on holiday with your sister, or do you not trust him to look after her?

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 15:37

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 10/05/2025 13:18

As someone who’s lived abroad for nearly 20 years, I totally disagree with this.

And that’s your prerogative. I’m at 25 and my bestie is at 22 and we both feel the same. I don’t think a time on it hurts or helps but I stand by what I said.

BethDuttonYeHaw · 10/05/2025 15:36

pretty unfair on your DH and his family.

WearyAuldWumman · 10/05/2025 15:35

Grammarnut · 10/05/2025 15:33

  1. Learn the language - if it's a European language none are enormously difficult (except possibly Danish), 2) Learn to drive. 3) It sounds like you are projecting motion sickness onto your DD because you have. For your own sicknesss take crystalised ginger to help prevent it - it works.
    I loathed beach holidays with my DC. No way to relax because they have to be watched constantly on a beach and by the sea (or anywhere). Visiting friends and family was more relaxed entirely or a city holiday with places to visit (my DD remembers visiting the Uffizi when she was 5). An all-inclusive is a good idea, but you will still have to watch DD all the time - not that relaxing. That said, all holidays with small children are no holiday at all for the adults involved!

It's one of the tough ones: Hungarian.

Grammarnut · 10/05/2025 15:33

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 13:01

Unfortunately hire car isn’t an option. I don’t have a license and DP only passed last year. None of the family drive either.

It’s quite a nightmare to navigate with me and DD getting motion sickness from buses, but we live in a town centre so manage okay when at home.

Edited
  1. Learn the language - if it's a European language none are enormously difficult (except possibly Danish), 2) Learn to drive. 3) It sounds like you are projecting motion sickness onto your DD because you have. For your own sicknesss take crystalised ginger to help prevent it - it works.
    I loathed beach holidays with my DC. No way to relax because they have to be watched constantly on a beach and by the sea (or anywhere). Visiting friends and family was more relaxed entirely or a city holiday with places to visit (my DD remembers visiting the Uffizi when she was 5). An all-inclusive is a good idea, but you will still have to watch DD all the time - not that relaxing. That said, all holidays with small children are no holiday at all for the adults involved!
RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 15:33

A previous poster pointed out that my baby becoming ill and needing to go to hospital with me not understanding the doctors could happen anywhere, which is a good point and I probably wasn’t being fair there.

I just have a really bad memory of it, my baby laying on the bed stripped down to a nappy screaming, with an IV put in, with a really high temperature meanwhile DP, father-in-law (who had been drinking) and DP’s aunt all stressed and talking over each other whilst the doctor was trying to explain what he thought was going on, and me not having a clue what was happening to my baby because I didn’t understand what anybody was saying. Also remember the 2hr bus ride to the hospital holding my baby who I thought had sepsis.

it’s a pretty horrid memory which definitely affects my perception of the place, but my other issues with it are valid too.

OP posts:
WearyAuldWumman · 10/05/2025 15:31

Doingmybest12 · 10/05/2025 15:24

It sounds pretty difficult OP but part of me thinks it goes with the territory of having a family with someone from another country but you'd think your husband would try and make it as easy and pleasant for you as possible which he seems determined not to do. You need suggest he goes alone with your child for the second trip of the year and book a holiday with your child and sister another time. I doubt he will go alone as he'll want child care while they all drink. I wouldn't have another child with this man.

In our case, Dad wouldn't hear of going to one of the resorts for part of the holiday - What would the family think?

When DH and I went on holiday to Montenegro, Dad made a point of not mentioning it to the relatives in Serbia.

Reddog1 · 10/05/2025 15:27

It sounds dismal but I’d suck it up tbh. However, I’d be doing whatever was necessary financially (appreciate it’s not easy) to have a pool holiday too.

I’d also consider making the Christmas holiday five nights rather than a week if the travel works out.

Presumably you’re all FaceTiming quite regularly. Maybe make it a set-in-stone weekly event if not. This will help your Hungarian too.

Doingmybest12 · 10/05/2025 15:24

It sounds pretty difficult OP but part of me thinks it goes with the territory of having a family with someone from another country but you'd think your husband would try and make it as easy and pleasant for you as possible which he seems determined not to do. You need suggest he goes alone with your child for the second trip of the year and book a holiday with your child and sister another time. I doubt he will go alone as he'll want child care while they all drink. I wouldn't have another child with this man.

ChillWith · 10/05/2025 15:21

Couldn't he take your child with him for the week? That way his parents get to see them both, you have a week to yourself and then you do every other Christmas together.

Wonderberry · 10/05/2025 15:21

I have family that live in a similar setting to your in laws OP. I also didn't know the language, but made a big effort to learn it (similarly tough language). Can you do lessons? Even just a basic level will help you.

DisforDarkChocolate · 10/05/2025 15:20

Every year would be a no from me too. Why are you the only one compromising?

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 15:20

He lived in the UK 10 years before meeting me, and would never consider living in Hungary due to the lack of jobs in his field. He isn’t living in the UK purely for me.

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TheSilentMajority · 10/05/2025 15:16

He has sacrificed living in the same country as his family to be with you and you want to tell him you don't want to spend one week with his family and go on holiday instead?
Can you not reach a compromise and on one family trip go stay somewhere nice in his country for a few days and then a few days with his family?

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