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To think visiting DP’s family doesn’t count as a holiday?

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RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 12:54

Been with my partner for 5 years and we have a 2 year old daughter. He is from a country in Central Europe. Every August we go for a week, and every other Christmas (we alternate between my family and his). This Christmas we are due to go there.

Before the baby we would have 2 holidays a year (not including the semi-annual Christmas visit) one to visit his family, and one to a nice resort type place. Since the baby, we can’t afford to do this. The Summer trip and Christmas trip are in the budget, but another holiday on top of that isn’t doable, and we couldn’t get the time off anyway.

I have nothing against his family but the trips to the village my partner grew up in aren’t particularly relaxing for me. We fly into the airport in the capital city, then have a 5 hour train and bus journey to get to his village, and I get motion sickness from buses. We also often have a late flight and end up waiting at the dodgy city train station until early morning when the trains start running and last time I got harassed by beggars on the platform when I was heard speaking English, DP gave them short shrift thankfully but it was still scary. DD is also starting to develop bus motion sickness so I’m dreading that part of the journey.

His family don’t speak any English, which is fine, I shouldn’t expect them too. But their language is notoriously hard to learn (please no comments about me needing to learn it, it’s literally known as one of the hardest languages in the world and I have a toddler and work full-time) and despite my efforts I have really struggle to have conversations with them beyond basic politeness. The past 2 times we’ve been they have pestered DP that I need to hurry up and learn the language. His father is a smoker and alcoholic and the house stinks of smoke, so since the baby we stay with his aunt instead, and DP’s father always argues with DP about it as he gets offended that we won’t bring the baby in his house. Also, the first time we took DD at 4 months she developed a temperature and had to be taken on the bus to the hospital and everyone was talking around me in their own language (doctors, DP and family) and I was distraught not knowing what was going on, having to wait for DP to translate. I’m scared of this happening again. DD is also a picky eater and the village shop is tiny and won’t have any of her ‘safe’ foods.

On the other hand, there are some positives.They are very hospitable and they cook for us etc, we have BBQs and days out in the nearest city (though this does require long bus trips). But in the village there is not much phone signal and once they start drinking and having a laugh I am completely excluded and don’t understand a word that is being said.

I understand that DP needs to maintain a relationship with his family and that I signed up for this when committing to him, but I must admit I’m dying for a proper holiday this Summer where I can relax, beachfront walks, play with DD in the pool etc. Just the 3 of us. I raised the idea to DP of doing this instead as we’re going to his country for Christmas anyway, and he was horrified. He also pointed out that his country gets hot in the Summer (it does, can reach 30 degrees), and therefore it still counts as a sunny holiday. He also points out that going to his country we only pay for flights and spends (probably around £1000 for the 3 of us). I found some lovely all-inclusive for £1800, and we could afford that extra £800 but we couldn’t afford that AND the Summer trip to his country AND the Christmas trip.

I’m tempted to tell him that me and DD will swerve the trip to his country this year, and may invite my sister to come somewhere with me and DD instead. But I’m worried this will upset him and his family who absolutely adore my DD.

AIBU?

OP posts:
LegalAlienated · 10/05/2025 19:36

BruFord · 10/05/2025 19:29

@LegalAlienated I don’t always go with my DH when he visits his parents in this country (two-hour flight away), he’s taking DS to see them in July and I’m looking forward to a peaceful week with the dog. 😂

Yeah, I envy that. My husband is not that close to his family and complains about having to look after MY dog. 😂

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 19:34

BruFord · 10/05/2025 19:24

@Calmdownpeople Those of us actually in this situation disagree with you!

And those of us in this situation do agree with me. You don’t speak for all immigrants and neither do I. Just because you don’t agree and it’s perfectly fine you don’t doesn’t make my view wrong.

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 19:32

Hwi · 10/05/2025 19:07

Aye, right, in Poland before their EU accession they had a huge countdown clock in Warsaw main square, counting even seconds to the time they join the EU and start their free movement towards Western European countries. So please, spare me this nonsense.

What on earth does Poland have to do with the OP partners country (which isn’t Poland). Not everyone who moves to the UK thinks it’s better than from where they are from - spare me that nonsense.

BruFord · 10/05/2025 19:29

@LegalAlienated I don’t always go with my DH when he visits his parents in this country (two-hour flight away), he’s taking DS to see them in July and I’m looking forward to a peaceful week with the dog. 😂

LegalAlienated · 10/05/2025 19:27

Whooowhooohoo · 10/05/2025 16:19

If you ever end up in hospital … get your husband to get you an English speaker.

Doubt there none in a Hungarian hospital.

Oh, the innocence…

SALaw · 10/05/2025 19:27

If that’s the case I never went on a holiday until I was 14 because all our family holidays were visiting my grandparents elsewhere in the U.K.

LegalAlienated · 10/05/2025 19:25

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 15:40

It doesn’t matter and that’s the part you don’t understand. He wants to bring his child ‘home’ to his parents, family and friends:

Respectfully unless you have moved abroad and have lived abroad no matter your feelings on it you won’t understand.

I think you don’t understand. A countryside little village in the middle of nowwhere is culturally completely different.
Let’s be realistic: OP’s husband came to the UK to make some actual money, it’s not sacrifice, it was an opportunity.
Little dirt-teack roads, no pavements, from the sound of it a totally different lifestyle.
My family live in Budapest and nearby and my husband only comes home with us every few years, reluctantly. Neither I made him learn an entirely useless (although amazing and so sophisticated) language he’d have no use of.

I don’t understand why noone could have given OP’s family a lift/called a cab to the hospital. Must be bloody remote.

OP, if you trust your husband, let him take the children.

BruFord · 10/05/2025 19:24

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:51

And the OP didn’t choose to marry someone from another country knowing all this? She choose this too.

I’ll concede if she only visits her parents one a year at Christmas.

@Calmdownpeople Those of us actually in this situation disagree with you!

BruFord · 10/05/2025 19:21

BotterMon · 10/05/2025 15:12

I used to send DH and DD off 2 to 3 times a year to visit his family. I speak their language fluently but didn't want to spend all my hard earned AL with his family as needed proper holidays. DH and DD benefitted as got more holidays with me.
Why can't you do that OP?

@BotterMon Yes, I moved to my DH’s country and I visit the UK (with or without the children) far more often than he does. He came with us last summer for the first time since 2019.

OP, I’d suggest that your DH visits alone this summer and you go as a family at Christmas. Next summer, perhaps he can take your DD with him as it’ll get easier as she gets older and understands that she’ll see you again soon.

Thegodfatherreturns · 10/05/2025 19:17

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:51

And the OP didn’t choose to marry someone from another country knowing all this? She choose this too.

I’ll concede if she only visits her parents one a year at Christmas.

They aren't married and even if they were I doubt she signed up to spending all holidays with in laws.

telestrations · 10/05/2025 19:17

My DH is from a similar country and so I get everything you are saying even if not exactly the same. The cultural differences, obligations and expectations are immense but often well hidden.

On the one hand I'm amazed you're getting away with just this and suspect he is pushing back massively. But on the other there must be an understanding between you and DH that you need a proper holiday and this is not one, otherwise the moment there is more time or money to spent on them it will also be spent there.

There are also options...

  • You can add time on and/or split with Budapest
  • You can fly to other airports such as Trieste, Liblijana or Vienna which are nice places to visit and can be cheaper to fly to and have cheaper car hire which also bypasses the train and bus
  • He could fly in earlier then you with or without DC to get the obligations done and then you join for the family holiday
  • He can go with or without DC and you go somewhere else or don't join which saves money towards your own trip
  • You both try to earn a bit of extra income solely for the purpose of your own additional family holiday
PurpleThistle7 · 10/05/2025 19:13

ChompinCrocodiles · 10/05/2025 18:54

Would you be okay with only seeing your family 1 week every 2 years?

I wouldn't. So I've never moved abroad.

If someone does move abroad then they weren't all that bothered to begin with.

This isn’t fair. There are millions of people who both moved abroad ‘and’ miss their families. Including me.

Redburnett · 10/05/2025 19:07

Just stay at home. Hide the passport if necessary. You are risking DC's health if you don't. Woman up and do what you need to do.

Hwi · 10/05/2025 19:07

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:40

You don’t get it. It is a sacrifice to give up everything you know - friends, family, culture, etc.

Unless you are an immigrant you don’t get it.

Aye, right, in Poland before their EU accession they had a huge countdown clock in Warsaw main square, counting even seconds to the time they join the EU and start their free movement towards Western European countries. So please, spare me this nonsense.

Deckings · 10/05/2025 19:02

No way would I be doing that trip every August.
Too much.
Its reasonable for him to go visit but you shouldn't have to join him every year.
Every second Christmas is too much too.

TiptoeThroughTheToadstools · 10/05/2025 18:59

My summer holiday consists of visiting my parents abroad, but they are my parents, not sure how comfortable I'd be if it were in laws. I don't speak the language either. Have really tried to learn but I just get tongue tied the minute I actually try to speak to someone. The only thing I'm confident about saying is "sorry" 🤦🏻‍♀️ I don't think it's unreasonable at all for you to want a family holiday for just the 3 of you. Is it a possibility you could do a week with his family and a week somewhere else? The journeys sound exhausting OP, I'd be fed up of that pretty quickly too!

Doctorkrank · 10/05/2025 18:58

If his parents can travel, you can also plan a summer holiday somewhere together in a different country that you would like to go to, then he gets to see his family and you get a summer holiday (also with free babysitting!)

Ddakji · 10/05/2025 18:55

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:37

Complete disagree. I see it the other way, but you are obviously entitled to your view.

So because he chose to leave his home country, he’s entitled to tell the OP that she doesn’t ever get to spend their one week family holiday anywhere except his home village? Not even somewhere else in the same country? He won’t compromise at all, like spilt the time between Budapest and the village.

ChompinCrocodiles · 10/05/2025 18:54

Would you be okay with only seeing your family 1 week every 2 years?

I wouldn't. So I've never moved abroad.

If someone does move abroad then they weren't all that bothered to begin with.

MyLittleNest · 10/05/2025 18:54

A few things:

I never took a single holiday with my parents as a child. Every "holiday" was to visit their family. As an adult, I feel that was a true loss for me and for them. Beach holidays and bonding time as a nuclear family are so important for making memories. You should absolutely carve out that time because before you know it, your DC will be all grown.

If it's one or the other, can his parents visit you every other year, thus freeing you up to take more of a destination or beach holiday every other year?

The years that you go for Christmas, I think it would be very reasonable to then go on a holiday as you prefer for the summer.

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:51

jgophacc · 10/05/2025 15:04

OP is getting a lot of the brunt here, but he’s the one who emigrated. I’m usually team MIL on these threads as a mum of boys, but it sounds horrific, he chose to move away, he’s created this, not the OP.

And the OP didn’t choose to marry someone from another country knowing all this? She choose this too.

I’ll concede if she only visits her parents one a year at Christmas.

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 18:50

TY78910 · 10/05/2025 18:26

I thought they were staying at the aunts since DC was born.

Yes, with FIL’s smoking and alcoholism we don’t like the baby being in his house so we stay with DP’s aunt and FIL visits (lives across the road).

that’s a drama in and of itself because FIL feels insulted and has apparently convinced himself it’s all me, even though DP and me are on the same page about it

OP posts:
Thegodfatherreturns · 10/05/2025 18:47

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:40

You don’t get it. It is a sacrifice to give up everything you know - friends, family, culture, etc.

Unless you are an immigrant you don’t get it.

If he sees it as such hardship why has he stayed in the UK for 10 years and had a child with someone in the UK?

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 18:47

It’s frustrating because it feels like all of my spare income and annual leave is already set aside for the Hungary trips by default. I don’t get the excitement of researching holidays, thinking about places to go etc. We have a savings pot specifically for the Hungary trips.

The reason why it’s £1000 for the 3 of us to go without needing to pay for accommodation is because it’s become extortionate to fly to Budapest since it became popular for tourists, and we go at peak times because often DP’s cousin (who also lives in Western Europe) will go over with her kids for a big family reunion and so it needs to be in the Summer holidays. And then there’s obviously Christmas. And then he always insists on giving them some money for bills etc.

DP is a brilliant father but I don’t think I could be away from DD so long at this age, I would be on edge. I appreciate that’s my own problem. He says he’d feel sad going on his own as they would all miss DD.

OP posts:
Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:40

Hwi · 10/05/2025 17:13

A Central European living in the UK is a sacrifice? Eh? You must be kidding.

You don’t get it. It is a sacrifice to give up everything you know - friends, family, culture, etc.

Unless you are an immigrant you don’t get it.