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To think visiting DP’s family doesn’t count as a holiday?

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RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 12:54

Been with my partner for 5 years and we have a 2 year old daughter. He is from a country in Central Europe. Every August we go for a week, and every other Christmas (we alternate between my family and his). This Christmas we are due to go there.

Before the baby we would have 2 holidays a year (not including the semi-annual Christmas visit) one to visit his family, and one to a nice resort type place. Since the baby, we can’t afford to do this. The Summer trip and Christmas trip are in the budget, but another holiday on top of that isn’t doable, and we couldn’t get the time off anyway.

I have nothing against his family but the trips to the village my partner grew up in aren’t particularly relaxing for me. We fly into the airport in the capital city, then have a 5 hour train and bus journey to get to his village, and I get motion sickness from buses. We also often have a late flight and end up waiting at the dodgy city train station until early morning when the trains start running and last time I got harassed by beggars on the platform when I was heard speaking English, DP gave them short shrift thankfully but it was still scary. DD is also starting to develop bus motion sickness so I’m dreading that part of the journey.

His family don’t speak any English, which is fine, I shouldn’t expect them too. But their language is notoriously hard to learn (please no comments about me needing to learn it, it’s literally known as one of the hardest languages in the world and I have a toddler and work full-time) and despite my efforts I have really struggle to have conversations with them beyond basic politeness. The past 2 times we’ve been they have pestered DP that I need to hurry up and learn the language. His father is a smoker and alcoholic and the house stinks of smoke, so since the baby we stay with his aunt instead, and DP’s father always argues with DP about it as he gets offended that we won’t bring the baby in his house. Also, the first time we took DD at 4 months she developed a temperature and had to be taken on the bus to the hospital and everyone was talking around me in their own language (doctors, DP and family) and I was distraught not knowing what was going on, having to wait for DP to translate. I’m scared of this happening again. DD is also a picky eater and the village shop is tiny and won’t have any of her ‘safe’ foods.

On the other hand, there are some positives.They are very hospitable and they cook for us etc, we have BBQs and days out in the nearest city (though this does require long bus trips). But in the village there is not much phone signal and once they start drinking and having a laugh I am completely excluded and don’t understand a word that is being said.

I understand that DP needs to maintain a relationship with his family and that I signed up for this when committing to him, but I must admit I’m dying for a proper holiday this Summer where I can relax, beachfront walks, play with DD in the pool etc. Just the 3 of us. I raised the idea to DP of doing this instead as we’re going to his country for Christmas anyway, and he was horrified. He also pointed out that his country gets hot in the Summer (it does, can reach 30 degrees), and therefore it still counts as a sunny holiday. He also points out that going to his country we only pay for flights and spends (probably around £1000 for the 3 of us). I found some lovely all-inclusive for £1800, and we could afford that extra £800 but we couldn’t afford that AND the Summer trip to his country AND the Christmas trip.

I’m tempted to tell him that me and DD will swerve the trip to his country this year, and may invite my sister to come somewhere with me and DD instead. But I’m worried this will upset him and his family who absolutely adore my DD.

AIBU?

OP posts:
MimiGC · 10/05/2025 23:07

I don’t mean this nastily, but how old is your DP’s father? With his alcoholism and heavy smoking, he may not live to a ripe old age, so the imperative to go back to Hungary may lessen naturally soon anyway.

Fruitbat99 · 10/05/2025 22:17

So you see your family once a month.

Hes only seeing his twice a year, I dont think that's a lot. It sounds like a whole different culture, which your daughter dwarves to be a part of. It's only a week.

Hwi · 10/05/2025 22:10

SoloSofa24 · 10/05/2025 21:41

You're a bit out of date. Poland joined the EU more than 20 years ago, and the quality of life there is now pretty much as good as the UK, from what I hear, and their access to healthcare is probably better. Even before Brexit the number of Polish immigrants to the UK was declining.

Won't say it when you are visiting Scotland - they don't seem to be in a hurry to return to Poland. Same goes for other Central and Eastern Europeans. In Poland, a Polish doctor's average monthly salary is around 10,000 PLN (approximately $2,409 USD) - and that is doctors.

Redhotspicywine · 10/05/2025 21:42

I lived in Budapest for a couple of years and loved it but agree with you about the countryside.

could you all (his family included) head down to Balaton for the summer trip? That feels like a proper holiday and is great for kids. My kids loved it there.

Also language wise - it is so hard, I get it. I worked 121 with a tutor an hour a day for over a year and got fairly good at getting by/ around etc but nowhere near fluency

SoloSofa24 · 10/05/2025 21:41

Hwi · 10/05/2025 21:30

Aye, they don't think UK is better, but they persist in living in misery, right? Make it make sense? Especially Central Europe. Not like it is a Western European country.

You're a bit out of date. Poland joined the EU more than 20 years ago, and the quality of life there is now pretty much as good as the UK, from what I hear, and their access to healthcare is probably better. Even before Brexit the number of Polish immigrants to the UK was declining.

Twinkylightsg · 10/05/2025 21:34

Why can't the year you do Christmas there you do a summer holiday instead of going there twice? So it's basically once a year you are going which seems to be happening on alternate years anyways. So why not just make it a yearly thing of going there once?
So one year you go there for summer. One year you do a holiday. And on the years you do your own summer holiday you are doing Christmas there anyways?

Hwi · 10/05/2025 21:30

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 19:32

What on earth does Poland have to do with the OP partners country (which isn’t Poland). Not everyone who moves to the UK thinks it’s better than from where they are from - spare me that nonsense.

Aye, they don't think UK is better, but they persist in living in misery, right? Make it make sense? Especially Central Europe. Not like it is a Western European country.

LegalAlienated · 10/05/2025 20:49

Whooowhooohoo · 10/05/2025 20:15

You an expert? Thinking there are no English speakers in Hungary? The medical schools in Hungary teach in ENGLISH. Many Hungarians study medicine in English speaking countries: US, Canada, UK, Singapore.
It’s easy to find English speaking doctors or find MDs trained in English speaking counties. Hungary is not a backwater w no bilingual doctors.
The US embassy website for most countries have a link for English speaking medical care … British not always have a list.
hu.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/154/2024/12/Budapest-Medical-Providers-updated-12-2024.pdf

I’m Hungarian. Medical schools do run courses in English, most ppl attending them won’t be Hungarian. Doctors working in remoteish hospitals definitely won’t be speaking English, the ones that do will be in the capital or abroad.

Eenameenadeeka · 10/05/2025 20:42

This is such a tricky one. It definitely doesn't sound like a holiday at all for you, but it sounds like visiting his family is more important for him than a holiday which makes sense. It's a shame he's not willing to compromise to make it a bit more enjoyable for you by spending some time outside of his village. I think if you skip the summer one on the year you go for Christmas, but if he still goes then I think you should let him take your daughter - They are her family too, and it's nice that she can spend time with her grandparents and experience the culture and language that is also hers.

Ablondiebutagoody · 10/05/2025 20:31

BakelikeBertha · 10/05/2025 20:05

Have you ever spent a day with people who you can't communicate with 'Ablondiebutagoody', because I can tell you, that when we lived in Portugal, even an evening trying to communicate when you're not fluent in the language, feels like torture, rather than fun. So please don't tell the OP that it sounds like a nice trip, she must be bored out of her head and very lonely most of the time they're there, especially as she says that once they start drinking, they forget that she doesn't understand what they're saying.

Tonnes. You are being very melodramatic.
DP's family also speak Portuguese and pretty much no English. I love going over there (and the journey is way longer than a plane and a bus). I'm always made to feel very welcome, especially when drinking. Sounds like she needs to make more of an effort to get involved rather than mope around looking sour.

reluctantbrit · 10/05/2025 20:21

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:51

And the OP didn’t choose to marry someone from another country knowing all this? She choose this too.

I’ll concede if she only visits her parents one a year at Christmas.

When DH and I lived in our home country we hardly saw our parents at Christmas as my work had a holiday stop from mid-December until second week in January.

We lived 600km and 6 hours drive away from them. We tried to see them once a year, often met my PIL when they were on holidays in a more reachable distance and made an effort for big occassions.

We now joke that it takes basically the same amount of time to go to them from London then when we lived back home.

And - not everyone has always the need to visit constantly, we manage with zoom perfectly and I actually find that if I am vistiting I need at least one full day away from them to recharge. The same goes if I see my mum.

TY78910 · 10/05/2025 20:18

Hwi · 10/05/2025 19:07

Aye, right, in Poland before their EU accession they had a huge countdown clock in Warsaw main square, counting even seconds to the time they join the EU and start their free movement towards Western European countries. So please, spare me this nonsense.

Jesus Christ. There’s always one.

Whooowhooohoo · 10/05/2025 20:15

LegalAlienated · 10/05/2025 19:27

Oh, the innocence…

You an expert? Thinking there are no English speakers in Hungary? The medical schools in Hungary teach in ENGLISH. Many Hungarians study medicine in English speaking countries: US, Canada, UK, Singapore.
It’s easy to find English speaking doctors or find MDs trained in English speaking counties. Hungary is not a backwater w no bilingual doctors.
The US embassy website for most countries have a link for English speaking medical care … British not always have a list.
hu.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/154/2024/12/Budapest-Medical-Providers-updated-12-2024.pdf

https://hu.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/154/2024/12/Budapest-Medical-Providers-updated-12-2024.pdf

Charlottejbt · 10/05/2025 20:15

I think you're doing amazingly well with both the visits and the language learning. I've taken DS to visit his foreign GPs a grand total of once (he's 24 now) and only speak a handful of words in their language, which appears to be far easier than Hungarian. I don't see why you need to go twice a year tbh: once a year all together should be plenty, especially given the logistical difficulties and the fact that your DP's village makes Craggy Island look like a cosmopolitan metropolis in comparison!

Gyozas · 10/05/2025 20:15

We have a savings pot specifically for the Hungary trips.

I’d stop paying into this OP. You partner is not being remotely fair. He can spend his money visiting as often as he wants, but he’s controlling the small amount holiday you have and making it only about him. Because where you have to go sounds fucking awful. Once a year is enough.

Whooowhooohoo · 10/05/2025 20:14

dbm

MoodSwingSet · 10/05/2025 20:07

He should be able to see his family at least twice a year.

He can, but OP does not need to.

BakelikeBertha · 10/05/2025 20:05

Ablondiebutagoody · 10/05/2025 13:24

You sound very selfish. It's his family ffs. I think it sounds like a nice trip

Have you ever spent a day with people who you can't communicate with 'Ablondiebutagoody', because I can tell you, that when we lived in Portugal, even an evening trying to communicate when you're not fluent in the language, feels like torture, rather than fun. So please don't tell the OP that it sounds like a nice trip, she must be bored out of her head and very lonely most of the time they're there, especially as she says that once they start drinking, they forget that she doesn't understand what they're saying.

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 19:54

BruFord · 10/05/2025 19:41

@Calmdownpeople You don’t seem to accept that we can have different opinions though!

In your posts, you call the OP “very selfish” and say that it’s “awful” for her husband.

No I do - you are more than welcome to your opinions and views which aren’t right or wrong but then neither are mine. It’s a view and I stand by mine but happy you want to disagree.

WearyAuldWumman · 10/05/2025 19:49

SipandClean · 10/05/2025 19:41

Having lived abroad I know how important those trips home are. You are being selfish. He should be able to see his family at least twice a year.

He could still do that if he accepted the OP's offer of a compromise where she could at least have a break in Budapest. She works hard: she's surely allowed to spend her hard earned money on a holiday which allows her some relaxation.

WearyAuldWumman · 10/05/2025 19:47

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 18:50

Yes, with FIL’s smoking and alcoholism we don’t like the baby being in his house so we stay with DP’s aunt and FIL visits (lives across the road).

that’s a drama in and of itself because FIL feels insulted and has apparently convinced himself it’s all me, even though DP and me are on the same page about it

Edited

I understand.

My dad's sister was offended because we didn't stay with her. Bluntly, the living conditions were not appropriate for an adolescent girl.

Facilities throughout the village were much the same, but that particular aunt's husband failed to maintain theirs properly.

BruFord · 10/05/2025 19:44

SipandClean · 10/05/2025 19:41

Having lived abroad I know how important those trips home are. You are being selfish. He should be able to see his family at least twice a year.

@SipandClean I don’t think that anyone’s saying that he shouldn’t see his family, it’s whether the OP needs to come on every single visit. If she doesn’t, they might have some extra money for a short break for the three of them.

What do you think?

SipandClean · 10/05/2025 19:41

Having lived abroad I know how important those trips home are. You are being selfish. He should be able to see his family at least twice a year.

BruFord · 10/05/2025 19:41

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 19:34

And those of us in this situation do agree with me. You don’t speak for all immigrants and neither do I. Just because you don’t agree and it’s perfectly fine you don’t doesn’t make my view wrong.

@Calmdownpeople You don’t seem to accept that we can have different opinions though!

In your posts, you call the OP “very selfish” and say that it’s “awful” for her husband.

DuchessOfNarcissex · 10/05/2025 19:36

Cos it's forrin innit, and it's all roughly the same place.Wink

The countries are not even neighbours.