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Sister angry I “yanked” my nephew’s arm and told him off

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Mmemm · 10/05/2025 06:06

So I live with my parents (saving up for flat in London). My sister often visits with her child and husband.

We have a gorgeous 12 yo Golden Retriever who is enjoying his golden years sunbathing on the sofa. Anyway, I was in the living room on my phone when I saw my little toddler nephew go up to my dog on the sofa and hit him on the head with a coaster. Obviously it’s not heavy but I reacted as I am protective of my elderly dog, poor boy was dozing. I ran up to my nephew and held him by arm and said “we do not throw things at ‘Lucky’, how would you like it if I hit you in the face? That was very mean of you”. I took the coaster away from him and said if he can’t use it nicely then he can’t have it. Not a big deal. Pretty normal way to deal with it in my view. I may have been a little cross.

But sister is now demanding an apology. BIL was sat sort of to the side reading a magazine and snitched. Didn’t say anything at the time. Errr how how about you parent your child mate.

But apparently I was very overboard. I don’t think I was. I refuse to apologise on principal. Dog took it in his stride but you can’t be allowing shit
like that to happen.

In my mind sister can do one but parents have literally begged me as apparently she won’t visit whilst I am home 😂

OP posts:
Theunamedcat · 12/05/2025 19:15

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 15:09

Whos to say the Father wasnt just about to open his mouth or sweep in to do/say something if his SIL had not jumped in and handled the situation in a ver y heavy handed manner.

He didn't exactly rush in did he if the aunt had time to cross the room remove the coaster and tell the child off

Ultimately he was THE parent in the room minimum he should have been doing is talking over the aunt and be a step behind not sitting on his behind then blaming her for not parenting HIS child appropriately

Mumzie1980 · 12/05/2025 17:34

EleanorReally · 10/05/2025 06:08

erm you could have been kinder

Could have been kinder? I’m a mum of 10 and either the OP suitably chastises the brat, or the dog would, which would you prefer??

Jen579 · 12/05/2025 17:16

I'm with you OP, he needs to know you don't go round hitting animals. That would have made me really cross as well and in the moment i might well have done similar. I can't stand anyone being mean to animals.

It's funny but people are really against gentle parenting on here, but then where someone clearly tell a child that what they're doing is not ok they don't like that either.

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 17:13

alwaysamused · 12/05/2025 02:41

So again, never leave toddlers unsupervised around animals. Ever. Parent them 100 percent of the time around animals - or others will have to parent them for you.

If you abdicate your duty as a parent and sit there like a lump of lard while your child hits a dog YOU, the parent are responsible for the child being bitten, frightened or otherwise harmed.

If you weren't even in the room while your lazy lump of a co parent sat and did nothing and said nothing, you don't get to demand apologies. Sister wasn't there, so she can shut her yap.

The lazy lump father should have said something if he was offended, but he didn't bother, just went slinking to his wife to gossip about a nothing burger.

If another adult intervenes in a way you do not like YOU, the parent, are responsible for them having to do that.

YOU the parent are responsible for the safety of your children.

Fortunately, the toddler in this scenario was absolutely fine because fortunately his aunt was there to intervene when he hit a sleeping dog.

As I said before, the OP is not coming back - and she's definitely not apologising to the batshit sister and lazy lump of a father either 😂

O cer i grafu y coc oen, na ffafr a dy hunan wir.

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 16:37

TheHerboriste · 12/05/2025 16:31

Give me a break!

No but really who is to say, the only person who could know that is the BIL, and it probably explains why he and his wife are so annoyed at. OP.

TheHerboriste · 12/05/2025 16:31

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 15:09

Whos to say the Father wasnt just about to open his mouth or sweep in to do/say something if his SIL had not jumped in and handled the situation in a ver y heavy handed manner.

Give me a break!

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 12/05/2025 15:14

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 15:09

Whos to say the Father wasnt just about to open his mouth or sweep in to do/say something if his SIL had not jumped in and handled the situation in a ver y heavy handed manner.

He needs to be a bit quicker if an animal is involved! No doubt if the poor dog had bitten the kid he’d have been quick to speak up and blame the dog.

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 15:09

Theunamedcat · 12/05/2025 15:00

And sitting on your arse ignoring the child hitting a dog waiting for the dog to bite back isn't giving even 10% 🙄

Whos to say the Father wasnt just about to open his mouth or sweep in to do/say something if his SIL had not jumped in and handled the situation in a ver y heavy handed manner.

BuzzyBee31 · 12/05/2025 15:07

I think you should grow up a bit and not be so overly aggressive towards a child. You can say no and remove him from the pet but you sound overall very childish.

Theunamedcat · 12/05/2025 15:00

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 11:42

We all know it is impossible to do so 100% of the time, no matter how careful you are as a parent.

And sitting on your arse ignoring the child hitting a dog waiting for the dog to bite back isn't giving even 10% 🙄

ThatTealDreamer · 12/05/2025 14:48

You were unreasonable. Not for saying something to your nephew but for what you said. Yes he needs to know not to do it but that’s not the way to teach him, I wouldn’t even say that to my almost 5 year old. Even children that are old enough to know don’t always do the right thing, their brains aren’t fully developed for a long time yet and they often make silly choices.
You asked whether what you said was unreasonable, a lot of people have said it was and all you’ve done it argue with them. That shows you weren’t really asking for opinions, you were asking for people to back you up and are angry that some people’s opinions are different to yours.
Yes the father should have been watching but that doesn’t justify what you said to the child. He also probably didn’t say anything to you at the time because he was afraid of causing issues with you when you’re not his family so told your sister instead so she could decide whether to raise it with you. Judging by your reactions here, he was justified in that. YTA.

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 11:48

AthWat · 12/05/2025 11:46

I came to that conclusion by reading your post, and I am sure if you reread it you will see why it can be read that way. Who has suggested that separating the kid from the dog for a short time isn't something that can be included in the wide variety of things that make up "supervising your children around dogs"? Nobody could possibly be against this as an occasional thing.
The way you are saying it makes it sound like you think the kids and dogs should always be kept apart, and that's why it has been questioned.

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No not at all and of course if you live with dogs thats completely unreasonable. We have about 15 dogs in this family between everyone, so common sense and some structure is essential.not all in the house obviously but still, if you are ever in a position where you know you cannot 100 % supervise, just put things in place to make sure everyone is happy and safe.

AthWat · 12/05/2025 11:46

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 11:37

No, not sure how you came to that conclusion. Im just saying, in this case, as its only a visit, and if the op wants dog to be kept safe, and toddler needs to be kept safe, what is wrong with closing a door for a short while during visit? Or at least untill mum or dad can be 100 % present. So if my brother visits with his dog, and im busy making dinner, i ask him can you take the dog to another room as im busy right now? And i would not depend on or expect him to supervise the kids with his dog, and he does. When im 100% present again dog comes out kids play etc

I came to that conclusion by reading your post, and I am sure if you reread it you will see why it can be read that way. Who has suggested that separating the kid from the dog for a short time isn't something that can be included in the wide variety of things that make up "supervising your children around dogs"? Nobody could possibly be against this as an occasional thing.
The way you are saying it makes it sound like you think the kids and dogs should always be kept apart, and that's why it has been questioned.

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 11:42

TheHerboriste · 12/05/2025 11:37

What’s so hard about the child’s actual parent watching over them??

We all know it is impossible to do so 100% of the time, no matter how careful you are as a parent.

TheHerboriste · 12/05/2025 11:37

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 11:17

But what in the world is wrong with making everyone’s life a little bit easier and just closing the door to keep toddler away? Why insist on letting the toddler in and out of the room? Whats so hard about closing a door 😂So for example (not dog related) i visited my brother when DD had just started walking, we live in a bungalo, brother had very very steep stairs. We spent the whole visit walking DD up and down the stairs because she was fascinated by them, could not have a proper conversation with brother, could not sit down for a meal. Next visit, took some stair gates with me- sorted. DD safe, all happy.

What’s so hard about the child’s actual parent watching over them??

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 11:37

AthWat · 12/05/2025 11:28

I'm not sure what you advocating - are you saying small children shouldn't ever be allowed in the living room if a family has dogs?

No, not sure how you came to that conclusion. Im just saying, in this case, as its only a visit, and if the op wants dog to be kept safe, and toddler needs to be kept safe, what is wrong with closing a door for a short while during visit? Or at least untill mum or dad can be 100 % present. So if my brother visits with his dog, and im busy making dinner, i ask him can you take the dog to another room as im busy right now? And i would not depend on or expect him to supervise the kids with his dog, and he does. When im 100% present again dog comes out kids play etc

TheHerboriste · 12/05/2025 11:35

SleepyHollowed84 · 12/05/2025 11:29

I don’t think it’s vigorous debate at all.

I’m just sick of seeing AIBU threads where the OP is unwavering in their belief that they are not the unreasonable one and won’t take any criticism or feedback. What is the point of seeking different views if they’re clearly not wanted?

They aren’t necessarily “seeking different opinions.” The aibu part is rhetorical; it’s just a rant.

SleepyHollowed84 · 12/05/2025 11:29

AthWat · 12/05/2025 09:37

It's by arguing with people who have different views that you get to the truth. If everyone just states their opinion and makes no effort to back it up it gets us nowhere. I understand that plenty of people in the social media age think that 1500 people all stating their opinions in 80 words or less is "a vigorous debate", but it really isn't.

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I don’t think it’s vigorous debate at all.

I’m just sick of seeing AIBU threads where the OP is unwavering in their belief that they are not the unreasonable one and won’t take any criticism or feedback. What is the point of seeking different views if they’re clearly not wanted?

AthWat · 12/05/2025 11:28

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 11:17

But what in the world is wrong with making everyone’s life a little bit easier and just closing the door to keep toddler away? Why insist on letting the toddler in and out of the room? Whats so hard about closing a door 😂So for example (not dog related) i visited my brother when DD had just started walking, we live in a bungalo, brother had very very steep stairs. We spent the whole visit walking DD up and down the stairs because she was fascinated by them, could not have a proper conversation with brother, could not sit down for a meal. Next visit, took some stair gates with me- sorted. DD safe, all happy.

I'm not sure what you advocating - are you saying small children shouldn't ever be allowed in the living room if a family has dogs?

AthWat · 12/05/2025 11:18

TheHerboriste · 12/05/2025 11:11

Nope. Unacceptable.

Parents are responsible 100 percent of the time. Full stop. Don’t come whining to me that it’s haaaaard. No one is forced to have children.

And if one enlists the help of the village, don’t critique or second guess them.

I'd fall in the middle here. It is well-nigh impossible for anyone to constantly supervise a child. Accidents can happen to the most careful parents.

However that's the the thing. The more parents who are absolute arses and wail about the fact that their kid might have been frightened by someone pulling them out of the way of a runaway horse, the less people are going to want to do it. And we all need people to do it. And if they do it without actually killing the child, we should say thank you. Not demand public apologies.

chattyness · 12/05/2025 11:17

YANBU. OP, you didn't yank his arm you held it , you didn't threaten to hit him, you simpy tried to make him see his actions were unkind & wrong. I think that is something that needs to be addressed from a young age, as that's when they will take it on board. It's for his own good, how many times do you see in the news little children getting bitten or mauled to death by dogs because adults weren't paying attention.

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 11:17

TheHerboriste · 12/05/2025 11:11

Nope. Unacceptable.

Parents are responsible 100 percent of the time. Full stop. Don’t come whining to me that it’s haaaaard. No one is forced to have children.

And if one enlists the help of the village, don’t critique or second guess them.

But what in the world is wrong with making everyone’s life a little bit easier and just closing the door to keep toddler away? Why insist on letting the toddler in and out of the room? Whats so hard about closing a door 😂So for example (not dog related) i visited my brother when DD had just started walking, we live in a bungalo, brother had very very steep stairs. We spent the whole visit walking DD up and down the stairs because she was fascinated by them, could not have a proper conversation with brother, could not sit down for a meal. Next visit, took some stair gates with me- sorted. DD safe, all happy.

TheHerboriste · 12/05/2025 11:11

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 10:54

My point is It is impossible to supervise 100% all of the time, something as simple as turning your back to wash the dishes allows enough time for something to happen. Sitting down to face another person for a conversation is enough of a distraction for something to happen.

Nope. Unacceptable.

Parents are responsible 100 percent of the time. Full stop. Don’t come whining to me that it’s haaaaard. No one is forced to have children.

And if one enlists the help of the village, don’t critique or second guess them.

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 10:54

TheHerboriste · 12/05/2025 10:40

Yes, the child’s parents are expected to supervise 24/7. I can’t believe you even asked the question.

The parents were fortunate that OP intervened in this situation because the child’s useless father failed. That should not be necessary.

Dog or no dog, there are plenty of other hazards. Useless lump should not be sitting there reading a magazine when his toddler offspring is nearby. Ever.

Or, if he expects help from the village, don’t be second-guessing and tattling on the villager who actually got off her arse to remove the child from a potential situation.

My point is It is impossible to supervise 100% all of the time, something as simple as turning your back to wash the dishes allows enough time for something to happen. Sitting down to face another person for a conversation is enough of a distraction for something to happen.

TheHerboriste · 12/05/2025 10:40

Mayhooray · 12/05/2025 07:37

So when sister visits her parents and sister with her family (could be for a weekend, could be for a full day) is she expected to supervise the dog and toddler 24/7? Can they not keep the dog and toddler seperate? Can they not close the door on the dog so toddler cant get in?

Yes, the child’s parents are expected to supervise 24/7. I can’t believe you even asked the question.

The parents were fortunate that OP intervened in this situation because the child’s useless father failed. That should not be necessary.

Dog or no dog, there are plenty of other hazards. Useless lump should not be sitting there reading a magazine when his toddler offspring is nearby. Ever.

Or, if he expects help from the village, don’t be second-guessing and tattling on the villager who actually got off her arse to remove the child from a potential situation.