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Sister angry I “yanked” my nephew’s arm and told him off

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Mmemm · 10/05/2025 06:06

So I live with my parents (saving up for flat in London). My sister often visits with her child and husband.

We have a gorgeous 12 yo Golden Retriever who is enjoying his golden years sunbathing on the sofa. Anyway, I was in the living room on my phone when I saw my little toddler nephew go up to my dog on the sofa and hit him on the head with a coaster. Obviously it’s not heavy but I reacted as I am protective of my elderly dog, poor boy was dozing. I ran up to my nephew and held him by arm and said “we do not throw things at ‘Lucky’, how would you like it if I hit you in the face? That was very mean of you”. I took the coaster away from him and said if he can’t use it nicely then he can’t have it. Not a big deal. Pretty normal way to deal with it in my view. I may have been a little cross.

But sister is now demanding an apology. BIL was sat sort of to the side reading a magazine and snitched. Didn’t say anything at the time. Errr how how about you parent your child mate.

But apparently I was very overboard. I don’t think I was. I refuse to apologise on principal. Dog took it in his stride but you can’t be allowing shit
like that to happen.

In my mind sister can do one but parents have literally begged me as apparently she won’t visit whilst I am home 😂

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Crackingprawn81 · 10/05/2025 09:24

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ezi91 · 10/05/2025 09:23

Tbh your brother in law probably thought best to avoid you potentially hitting him.

You seem the type

Needlenardlenoo · 10/05/2025 09:23

There was a best selling novel adapted into a miniseries about a not totally dissimilar situation.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Slap_(novel)

Lostinthewoods8 · 10/05/2025 09:21

Gentle parents are out in force. I don't see an issue with what you said, and I took would have held his arm or taken the coaster. I wish more parents parented their kid's, if you work in a school you'll understand the type of behaviour and lack of boundaries the new generation of children have.

If he didn't like the what you said, maybe he could have been watching his son, and intervened before he smacked the dog in the face. Not all dogs will be as tolerant as yours.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/05/2025 09:21

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:09

If I were the OP I'd want to instigate a calm conversation with my sister in which I expressed my perspective and would try to understand hers so that a compromise can be reached. They sound like lovely close sisters that are just caught up in the moment.

I think BiL is the one who should apologise.

He wasn’t paying attention to his son and left OP to deal with it. When he realised he should have been the one to intervene he covered his arse with OP’s sister and left OP to take the blame for his version of what happened, when in reality she potentially prevented the child from being bitten. It’s true what they say on MN - no good deed goes unpunished.

If SiL is refusing to visit while OP is there, that’s her business. If l were OP I’d move out rather than be made to apologise for the actions of a lazy arsed dad who couldn’t be bothered to supervise his young son with a dog in the room.

Undecided2025 · 10/05/2025 09:20

Rosscameasdoody · 10/05/2025 09:00

BiL is the child's father. He was in the room. He did nothing, and when he realised he should have been the one to intervene he bad mouthed OP to her sister to take the heat off himself. Of course it’s about him. And while there was even the remotest chance of the outcome being that the child was bitten, OP was right to act as she did.

Edited

It’s literally AIBU by the op.

AthWat · 10/05/2025 09:20

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:10

No, all of that is ridiculous and just Mumsnet at its worst.

And yet all those people are in the 43% that you started off by berating the OP for not listening to over the majority that agreed with her.

Needlenardlenoo · 10/05/2025 09:19

IberianBlackout · 10/05/2025 08:34

The issue here is the kid is really small. She wasn’t telling off a 5 year old that was just being a little shit.

That wasn't my point. I was imagining what the sister and BIL might be like as primary school parents. "Oh I'm sure he didn't mean it. He's just spirited!"

Never2many · 10/05/2025 09:18

Christ and as usual people have gone wayyy OTT on this one.

Let’s be honest here, you don’t teach a child not to hit animals by doing the whole “we must be kind,” speech, you do it often by force because the child is hitting the animal at the time.

There’s potentially only one chance to get this right. The child was lucky not to have been bitten in this instance, and if they had been the same posters calling the OP a child abuser would be calling her irresponsible for having a dog in the first place and demanding it be put down. Would be defending the sister and saying that she would be right to never set foot in the house until the dog was dead.

It’s like crossing a busy road. If a child tries to run out in the road do you say gently “no no little darling, we mustn’t run out in the road,” or do you, in fact, grab the child firmly from stopping it from running out. It’s the same with the dog.

Being firmly grabbed and told no isn’t going to scar a child for life. A dog waking up and snapping because it’s been hit over the head might well however.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 10/05/2025 09:17

EilishMcCandlish · 10/05/2025 09:13

I don't know. We left the EU on a narrower margin in a equally flawed poll where there was no understanding of the details of what we were voting for! 🤷‍♀️

True.

HerNeighbourTotoro · 10/05/2025 09:16

Interestingly you think you need to protect your dog, but not your nephew. You doi sound very angry and bitter and passive aggressive and what you said was very OTT.

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:15

EilishMcCandlish · 10/05/2025 09:13

I don't know. We left the EU on a narrower margin in a equally flawed poll where there was no understanding of the details of what we were voting for! 🤷‍♀️

True! 100%

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:15

Butchyrestingface · 10/05/2025 09:06

She's maybe struggling to see nuance amongst all the posts calling her a child abusing harpy.

Yeah fair. All of that is ridiculous. I've actually found this thread really interesting because it's not black and white these sorts of things, but hate people's tendency to go to the extreme. Anyway, I am going to try and extract myself 😂 not how I intended to spend my Saturday morning haha.

KarmaKameelion · 10/05/2025 09:14

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:10

No, all of that is ridiculous and just Mumsnet at its worst.

Well totally agree with you on that one!

EilishMcCandlish · 10/05/2025 09:13

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:05

I hadn't seen the poll. And anyway its not exactly a clean sweep, if I was the OP I'd be interested in different perspectives. God Mumsnet is a hostile place.

I don't know. We left the EU on a narrower margin in a equally flawed poll where there was no understanding of the details of what we were voting for! 🤷‍♀️

OnlyHerefortheBiscuits · 10/05/2025 09:12

Butchyrestingface · 10/05/2025 08:10

If you were watching closely then you could have prevented it from happening.

Maybe that point should be addressed to the child's actual parent.

Quite!

I have SIX nieces and nephews all close in age by two older sisters. See them all the time.

when they were little I never once had to "step in". Their parents were on it, capabale , alert and responsible.

if I did, and got the tone wrong or something, it would have been "that's a bit harsh, next time better this way. Suppose you don't know cause you're not a parent" And that's that.

The sister is over reacting. Massively.

Funnywonder · 10/05/2025 09:12

Whether or not the OP handled the situation appropriately, the lazy arse BIL was the parent on duty and he should have taken over. Even if it had already happened and he was genuinely distracted, he should have said something to OP if he was unhappy about how she dealt with it, instead of doing a Pontius Pilate, then running to his wife to tell tales. What a gem of a dad. And husband.

Bitchesbelike · 10/05/2025 09:11

Mmemm · 10/05/2025 06:18

2 is very different from an almost 3 yo.

he was a 2 year old. Stop trying to say he wasn’t

EmeraldShamrock000 · 10/05/2025 09:11

AthWat · 10/05/2025 09:05

She's demanding an apology and saying she won't set foot in the house until she has one. Does that info that was in the first post give you any clues?

Edited

We don't know how the family works.
OP has admitted she is considered the black sheep, she was hungover too, already annoyed with BIL.
I can see how this played out.
Dsis is probably annoyed that she moved back and upset the apple cart, now this.
I am the black sheep in mine, no judgement. When DSis had her DD 23 years ago. I gave her lots of annoying parenting advice 🙄 until I became a parent, Dsis is much nicer than me, I'd have said fuck off 23 year ago.

Lilactimes · 10/05/2025 09:11

Worriedsickmostofthetime · 10/05/2025 08:48

Good golly. There are some righteous parents on here…

I completely understand that the M in MN stands for mum and this is a parenting board but if there was ever a thread which highlighted how too far ‘gentle parenting’ has gone it’s this one.

The child will be absolutely fine with no long lasting childhood trauma that will need therapy in his twenties as a result of being told off my his aunt. This will leave no imprint on him at all. If the sister carries on this way the only change will be one less child carer in her family because I certainly would not be putting my hand up to babysit my nephew in future.

I totally agree @Worriedsickmostofthetime and most importantly OP prevented a potential - nasty even if unlikely scenario - of a dog bite.

Snapncrackle · 10/05/2025 09:11

SnugMintFawn · 10/05/2025 09:07

I agree BIL should have stepped in, 100%, and if I was the SIL in this situation I would be annoyed at my husband.

but to react with “I’m sooooooo sorry…” etc does make you sound 12 🙃

I’m young at heart

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:10

KarmaKameelion · 10/05/2025 09:08

She’s literally been called a child abuser, aggressive, free loader…. Of course you would probably focus on that.

No, all of that is ridiculous and just Mumsnet at its worst.

Smallsalt · 10/05/2025 09:10

Unrelated38 · 10/05/2025 06:12

How old is he? I'm guessing very young.

Sounds pretty over the top and you said yourself you were angry. I wouldn't like someone talking angrily to my children.

And I wouldn't like somebody hitting my dog in the face.

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:09

AthWat · 10/05/2025 09:05

She's demanding an apology and saying she won't set foot in the house until she has one. Does that info that was in the first post give you any clues?

Edited

If I were the OP I'd want to instigate a calm conversation with my sister in which I expressed my perspective and would try to understand hers so that a compromise can be reached. They sound like lovely close sisters that are just caught up in the moment.

ANiceBigCupOfTea · 10/05/2025 09:09

Mothership4two · 10/05/2025 08:49

@ANiceBigCupOfTea

But the OP has also said she takes her nephew out for days out.
So actually it sounds like the sister is all too happy for free childcare but isn't happy that someone else has spoken to the child about how she speaks to the dog.

Sister sounds like one of these ones who nobody can do right for wrong with the child but will then start asking 'wheres my village' when nobody can be bothered with the drama anymore.

Sister believes her child had his arm yanked while being told off - no parent is going to be 'happy' about that

Of course, I get that
But what I'm saying is she's causing an issue for what sounds like a brilliant auntie usually who loves and cares for her nephew and provides free childcare. The child put themselves in danger and OP intervened. An auntie who didn't care wouldn't do that. The main point of course being that she didn't yank the child, the father stirred the pot with this nonsense after doing nothing to intervene. So I think the sister has much more of a DH problem than she has a Dsis problem.

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