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Have women become soft

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peeweehill · 09/05/2025 21:18

Hear me first ive just got in from having a chat to my neighbour shes almost 80 really sweet lady known her for years.
Well we was having a natter while she was waiting for her daughter to arrive (she`s going away for the weekend) and i said something how society has changed a lot and how far technology has come.

She agreed it was all for the best and how we would of loved it back in the day. She then said the biggest thing that she as noticed the most is that women are getting softer.
I said what do you mean she replied with we all used to be tough as nails now most are gone soft.
Before i could reply her daughter arrived she said catch up when i get home on monday.

Now im waiting for monday lol😆
It got me thinking have us women got softer.🤔
Some of what i read on MN i think she may have a point i think i dont know.
What do you netters think.

OP posts:
middleagedandinarage · 10/05/2025 21:56

Yes I absolutely do think we've all gotten softer, men and woman. When I think the life my grandmother had, very few woman I know now would cope with it.

MightAsWellBeGretel · 10/05/2025 21:55

I think society in general have lost resilience, probably through lack of real hardship in a lit of cases

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 21:52

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 21:48

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. The initial post was about boomers benefiting then pulling up the ladder so others couldn't. I gave the example of austerity and Brexit.

And you keep saying about boomers voting Tory. But fail to understand that if all the " non boomers" didn't vote Tory then they wouldn't have got in.

Btw my parents were both boomers and neither of them EVER voted Tory. My dad was almost bloody communist he was so left wing. My mum was Lib Dem through and through

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 21:48

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 21:43

But if ALL the non boomers hadn't voted Tory then they wouldn't have got in. Less than 50% bother to vote

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. The initial post was about boomers benefiting then pulling up the ladder so others couldn't. I gave the example of austerity and Brexit.

BunnyLake · 10/05/2025 21:47

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 10/05/2025 07:49

There does seem to be less resilience on threads on MN, but the women who just get on with it aren’t really represented.

Probably because they’re not starting threads about every tiny little mishap.

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 21:43

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 21:34

I provided the stats up thread.

But if ALL the non boomers hadn't voted Tory then they wouldn't have got in. Less than 50% bother to vote

GoneGirl12345 · 10/05/2025 21:42

Yep. Not answering the door is a prime example. Or maybe that's a MN thing!

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 10/05/2025 21:39

I think that the generation who grew up in WW2’were particularly tough. Wouldn’t say that this means that younger people are necessarily soft, although I agree that many posters on here are lacking resilience (by that I mean those starting certain threads).

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 21:34

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 21:32

And what do the " non boomers " vote? There's more of them

I provided the stats up thread.

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 21:32

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 21:20

Because they predominantly vote Tory. If they turned up to vote and voted across the political spectrum they wouldn't be blamed for pulling up the ladder.

And what do the " non boomers " vote? There's more of them

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 21:20

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 21:15

But all the non boomers IF they turned up to vote are a higher number than the boomers? So why is it ONLY the boomers blamed for Tories?

Because they predominantly vote Tory. If they turned up to vote and voted across the political spectrum they wouldn't be blamed for pulling up the ladder.

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 21:17

I originally replied to your previous post actually

MiloMinderbinder925 · Today 19:10
Evidence is readily available given how boomers voted for Brexit and the Tories in vast numbers over the years.
Voted happily to get rid off student grants, dissolve the welfare state, underfund the NHS and take us out of the EU with all the advantages that had. All the things they benefited from with their triple locked pensions.
Edited

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 21:15

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 21:13

Boomers have been shown to vote Tory in high numbers. Turning up to vote doesn't necessitate voting Tory.

You responded to this:

Because it's Tory policy and they voted for it in their droves. 14 years of Austerity, predominantly voted for by boomers.

No Brexit, hence the confusion.

But all the non boomers IF they turned up to vote are a higher number than the boomers? So why is it ONLY the boomers blamed for Tories?

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 21:13

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 21:09

Do you think the " boomers" make up such a high percentage of the population? Or merely that others cba to bother voting?

As if the 30% or so of " boomers" wanted the Tories, surely the 70•% of " non boomers " of voting age could have prevented it by voting themselves? I'm neither a boomer nor a youngster so no skin in the game

And btw it was you who had a whole paragraph about brexit which was what I was replying to

Edited

Boomers have been shown to vote Tory in high numbers. Turning up to vote doesn't necessitate voting Tory.

You responded to this:

Because it's Tory policy and they voted for it in their droves. 14 years of Austerity, predominantly voted for by boomers.

No Brexit, hence the confusion.

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 21:09

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 21:05

We seem to be having a parallel conversation and I'll side step the condescension.

I was talking about Tory austerity and you seem to be talking about Brexit.

Either way, both austerity and Brexit were predominantly voted for by boomers. Brexit has cost billions and austerity has brought services to a standstill. The NHS is barely functioning and councils aren't able to offer more than the essentials.

Do you think the " boomers" make up such a high percentage of the population? Or merely that others cba to bother voting?

As if the 30% or so of " boomers" wanted the Tories, surely the 70•% of " non boomers " of voting age could have prevented it by voting themselves? I'm neither a boomer nor a youngster so no skin in the game

And btw it was you who had a whole paragraph about brexit which was what I was replying to

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 21:05

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 20:54

It was a totally different option. David Cameron wanted to remain and was doing the " well the people will agree with me" so did the referendum. However it didn't go the way he expected so he threw his toys out of the pram and resigned. So how you say this is a Tory policy I don't know. Were you actually there as an adult at the time?

We seem to be having a parallel conversation and I'll side step the condescension.

I was talking about Tory austerity and you seem to be talking about Brexit.

Either way, both austerity and Brexit were predominantly voted for by boomers. Brexit has cost billions and austerity has brought services to a standstill. The NHS is barely functioning and councils aren't able to offer more than the essentials.

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 20:54

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 20:38

Because it's Tory policy and they voted for it in their droves. 14 years of Austerity, predominantly voted for by boomers.

It was a totally different option. David Cameron wanted to remain and was doing the " well the people will agree with me" so did the referendum. However it didn't go the way he expected so he threw his toys out of the pram and resigned. So how you say this is a Tory policy I don't know. Were you actually there as an adult at the time?

Stompythedinosaur · 10/05/2025 20:47

I think "gone soft" can be how people phrase "are less traumatised".

Surely each generation is trying to make things better for their children?

Nothankyov · 10/05/2025 20:42

I can only speak for myself of course. But I notice that I let more things slide now than I did before… not big things but I sort of pick my battles. I think mainly because I have had quite a rough few years (haven’t we all really) and I’m just constantly tired. But not everyone is the same.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 20:38

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 20:29

Many non boomers voted for all this also. The great majority of " boomers" didn't even go to university. Who voted to underfund the NHS? I don't remember hat EVER being an option in any election .

As for the EU. If all the people that are whinging and crying about it now actually bothered to vote at the time then maybe it wouldn't have happened. The people to find want us to leave actually bothered to get off their arses and vote. It is what is is

Because it's Tory policy and they voted for it in their droves. 14 years of Austerity, predominantly voted for by boomers.

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 20:32

LavenderHaze19 · 10/05/2025 19:52

Yes, I thought this when I first read it. I imagine both when she was young and when she was raising her kids it was perfectly normal to give children a good walloping for misbehaviour. And of course children would have been caned in school.

My mum would have been 80 if she was still alive ( dad 86). I was never given the cane at xchool .Don't remember really getting a " good walloping" eihher

FedupofArsenalgame · 10/05/2025 20:29

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 19:10

Evidence is readily available given how boomers voted for Brexit and the Tories in vast numbers over the years.

Voted happily to get rid off student grants, dissolve the welfare state, underfund the NHS and take us out of the EU with all the advantages that had. All the things they benefited from with their triple locked pensions.

Edited

Many non boomers voted for all this also. The great majority of " boomers" didn't even go to university. Who voted to underfund the NHS? I don't remember hat EVER being an option in any election .

As for the EU. If all the people that are whinging and crying about it now actually bothered to vote at the time then maybe it wouldn't have happened. The people to find want us to leave actually bothered to get off their arses and vote. It is what is is

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 20:24

Sharptonguedwoman · 10/05/2025 20:13

Had a horrid feeling that’s what the data would show. But honestly, it wasn’t me.
I do wonder what goes through some of these people’s heads, perhaps an inability to walk in someone else’s shoes.
I apologise.

There's no need to apologise, I wasn't blaming you.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/05/2025 20:03

Sharptonguedwoman · 10/05/2025 19:40

You have not 'called me out' because I have done absolutely none of these things. You have merely made an unpleasant, generalised accusation with no back up data.

Here you go:

2024 GE with age breakdown
How Britain voted in the 2024 general election | YouGov

How Britain voted in the 2024 general election | YouGov
Using a sample of over 35,000 voters, YouGov looks at how voters voted at the 2024 election across factors like age, gender, class, education, income, work status, housing tenure and their vote at past elections

How Britain voted in the 2019 general election | YouGov

2019 with age breakdown

How Britain voted in the 2019 general election | YouGov
YouGov conducts one of Britain's biggest ever post-election surveys to chart how the nation's political character is shifting

General election 2015: how Britain really voted | YouGov

2015 GE with age breakdown

General election 2015: how Britain really voted | YouGov
The results of Britain's biggest ever post-election survey reveal the nation's changing political character

Brexit vote by age 2016| Statista

Brexit by age

Brexit vote by age 2016| Statista
In the Brexit referendum of 2016, 73 percent of people aged between 18 and 24 voted to Remain in the European Union, compared with just 40 percent of people aged over 65.

Brexit vote by age 2016| Statista

In the Brexit referendum of 2016, 73 percent of people aged between 18 and 24 voted to Remain in the European Union, compared with just 40 percent of people aged over 65.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/520954/brexit-votes-by-age/?__sso_cookie_checker=failed