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Purpleturtle43 · 09/05/2025 11:16

Seems like pretty much every poster and responder assumes everyone on here is from England.

When asking questions regarding schools, health care, tenancy etc surely it would be useful to say what country you live in since the rules and laws are different all over the UK/world.

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Panterusblackish · 11/05/2025 17:34

Purpleturtle43 · 09/05/2025 11:37

The assumption that everyone would be talking about England on a 'British Website' unless otherwise stated.

That's not ignorant, it's purely a numbers game.

Besides so many posts these days are clearly AI generated. Yes mom is used by some regionally but Mum is the norm, yet mom pops up very very frequently. Not sure how many genuine posters be theycEnglish or not are left.

AlmostSummer25 · 11/05/2025 17:31

lolalei3 · 10/05/2025 10:58

I’m Australian Smile

Im sorry 🤗

queenmeadhbh · 11/05/2025 17:18

Davros · 11/05/2025 13:50

Come on @queenmeadhbh and others. MN was started in London, it’s a mostly English website. It’s not a surprise or a secret

I am aware of that. I expect the majority of posters to be in England. What I am commenting on is the tendency I notice for some English posters to presume everything everywhere is like England, which I not a tendency I notice in people from NI or Scotland.

Davros · 11/05/2025 13:50

Come on @queenmeadhbh and others. MN was started in London, it’s a mostly English website. It’s not a surprise or a secret

Arina22 · 11/05/2025 12:52

Needlenardlenoo · 11/05/2025 12:50

You're right, I've just corrected myself.

I don't watch them so can't tell the difference!

They did portray her as a stupid essex girl on x factor too. They often portrayed the frmale singers as totslly stupid. It wad quite sexist.

Yeah shes definitely intelligent

Needlenardlenoo · 11/05/2025 12:50

You're right, I've just corrected myself.

I don't watch them so can't tell the difference!

Arina22 · 11/05/2025 12:49

Needlenardlenoo · 11/05/2025 12:48

Stacey Solomon's made a whole career out of those kinds of shows. She doesn't come over as stupid at all. Strategic, l'd say.

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I dont think she was on love island? She was on X factor as a contestant

Needlenardlenoo · 11/05/2025 12:48

Stacey Solomon's made a whole career out of those kinds of shows. She doesn't come over as stupid at all. Strategic, l'd say.

Arina22 · 11/05/2025 12:46

Goldenbear · 11/05/2025 12:28

If they are clever, why do they go on to Love Island.

I'm with you on thinking Britain shouldn't become isolationist but it isn't England on its own that is heading that way.

To get exposure i guess.

The scientist who went on love island - she had a day job. But i think she also did social content on the side, and then she went on to write a book

Goldenbear · 11/05/2025 12:28

Arina22 · 11/05/2025 12:05

Theyre chosen for their good looks yes, but being good looking doesnt mean that you cant be brainy.

I remember they had a scientist on love island one year, and a doctor on it another year

If they are clever, why do they go on to Love Island.

I'm with you on thinking Britain shouldn't become isolationist but it isn't England on its own that is heading that way.

quantumbutterfly · 11/05/2025 12:14

Arina22 · 11/05/2025 12:05

Theyre chosen for their good looks yes, but being good looking doesnt mean that you cant be brainy.

I remember they had a scientist on love island one year, and a doctor on it another year

Did they realise Spain and England were separate entities? One would hope so.

Btw they're also chosen for their willingness to expose their flaws on TV. That's quite a particular demographic, not overly representative I think.

quantumbutterfly · 11/05/2025 12:11

It's not as though they'll run out.

Arina22 · 11/05/2025 12:08

Looking at my post above, I just realised thst i've left every apostrophe out, as when I use apostrophes it takes me ages to type things on my phone. I was just thinking, why do we still have so many apostrophes in the English language? The words make sense without them. I feel that we use more apostrophes than any other language!

Arina22 · 11/05/2025 12:05

quantumbutterfly · 11/05/2025 11:06

You do know love islanders aren't chosen for their intellects right?

Theyre chosen for their good looks yes, but being good looking doesnt mean that you cant be brainy.

I remember they had a scientist on love island one year, and a doctor on it another year

quantumbutterfly · 11/05/2025 11:06

Arina22 · 11/05/2025 10:52

This reminds me of the Engish girl on Love Island who thought that Spain was part of the UK.

Island isolsation, brexit and the attitude that the UK is better than other countries is leading to some very insular attitudes, and a lack of awareness about the rest of the world.

A similiar thing i think happens in the USA. I was chatting to a woman from the USA recently.

She said that when they are children and teenagers they are taught to view the USA as the best country in the world. She said that they are taught very little about other countries. She said also when they become adults - ths US media primarily focuses on US news. It doesnt talk much about other countries. She said that a lot of people in the USA start to think of the USA as being the whole world.

You do know love islanders aren't chosen for their intellects right?

quantumbutterfly · 11/05/2025 11:04

queenmeadhbh · 11/05/2025 10:04

Yes - the one I was thinking of was a similar thread where a commenter insisted “no school in the UK is on holiday right now”. Fair enough not to know when holidays are elsewhere but I can’t think of an explanation for such ungrounded confidence other than some sort of unthinking arrogance.

Some people are very rigid thinkers which could be nature or nurture. Hard to know how serious anonymous internet users are as the tone of posts isn't always obvious.
Best to let AIBU wash over you like water off a duck's back, unless you're in a bad mood and need to vent. Usually it's not personal it's the internet.....for most boards.

Arina22 · 11/05/2025 10:52

This reminds me of the Engish girl on Love Island who thought that Spain was part of the UK.

Island isolsation, brexit and the attitude that the UK is better than other countries is leading to some very insular attitudes, and a lack of awareness about the rest of the world.

A similiar thing i think happens in the USA. I was chatting to a woman from the USA recently.

She said that when they are children and teenagers they are taught to view the USA as the best country in the world. She said that they are taught very little about other countries. She said also when they become adults - ths US media primarily focuses on US news. It doesnt talk much about other countries. She said that a lot of people in the USA start to think of the USA as being the whole world.

Funnywonder · 11/05/2025 10:41

quantumbutterfly · 11/05/2025 09:57

.....well let's not be arrogant and ignore all the people who home school, the beach is a very educational environment.....

Fair point!

queenmeadhbh · 11/05/2025 10:04

Funnywonder · 11/05/2025 09:51

The whole school holiday thing …

It’s reasonable that English posters might not know the school holiday schedule of other parts of the UK. Or anywhere else in the world. That’s fair enough. But often - very often in fact - someone starts a thread and mentions that something happened when they were at, say, the beach with their kids. Some poster invariably accuses them of making it all up because it’s not the school holidays. A dog couldn’t possibly have eaten your tuna sandwiches and run away with your strawberry cheesecake because why would you be at the beach at 11 o’clock on a Wednesday morning when all children are in school? You just hate dogs. Or whatever.

Yes - the one I was thinking of was a similar thread where a commenter insisted “no school in the UK is on holiday right now”. Fair enough not to know when holidays are elsewhere but I can’t think of an explanation for such ungrounded confidence other than some sort of unthinking arrogance.

quantumbutterfly · 11/05/2025 09:57

.....well let's not be arrogant and ignore all the people who home school, the beach is a very educational environment.....

Funnywonder · 11/05/2025 09:51

The whole school holiday thing …

It’s reasonable that English posters might not know the school holiday schedule of other parts of the UK. Or anywhere else in the world. That’s fair enough. But often - very often in fact - someone starts a thread and mentions that something happened when they were at, say, the beach with their kids. Some poster invariably accuses them of making it all up because it’s not the school holidays. A dog couldn’t possibly have eaten your tuna sandwiches and run away with your strawberry cheesecake because why would you be at the beach at 11 o’clock on a Wednesday morning when all children are in school? You just hate dogs. Or whatever.

queenmeadhbh · 11/05/2025 09:30

nomas · 11/05/2025 08:55

It’s more annoying and arrogant to try to impose your own rules on people. Other forums are available.

? I didn’t mention any “rules”?

nomas · 11/05/2025 08:55

queenmeadhbh · 11/05/2025 08:39

I didn’t say that they ARE, I said that that explains why I, and others, FIND IT to be self centred and ignorant. I’ve explained why I think it happens and also explained why it gets a negative reaction. It’s clearly not a personality defect, it’s cultural. Other cultures are still allowed to find it annoying.

It’s more annoying and arrogant to try to impose your own rules on people. Other forums are available.

nomas · 11/05/2025 08:54

Purpleturtle43 · 09/05/2025 11:59

Or everyone could just state where they are from so they get the correct answers.

Why are you being so dictatorial? Start your own forum with your own rules.

queenmeadhbh · 11/05/2025 08:39

JumpingPumpkin · 11/05/2025 07:56

“I think that people from big/dominant/“default” cultures have more of a tendency to presume that what they do is some sort of global or national constant. You can see how it happens: I am exposed through media much more to English culture than most English people are to NI. And the same for the Americans - nearly all English speaking countries are exposed to US when the reverse isn’t true.
i think that that is why some posters (including me) find it annoying, self centred and ignorant - we genuinely do not presume that anything we do must be the same everywhere.”

You have just explained how it happens, yet people in the dominant culture are “self-centred and ignorant” simply for not being aware of information they are not exposed to. They are ignorant not because they are self-centred but because they haven’t been exposed to it.

It was only quite recently I realised how different some laws are in NI compared to England, we’re supposedly one country so I thought that major things like abortion would be nationally decided. I now wonder what else is different.

I didn’t say that they ARE, I said that that explains why I, and others, FIND IT to be self centred and ignorant. I’ve explained why I think it happens and also explained why it gets a negative reaction. It’s clearly not a personality defect, it’s cultural. Other cultures are still allowed to find it annoying.

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