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To want to burn one of each Religious text today?

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JustMakingAPoint · 09/05/2025 07:54

Not because I hate or dislike them.

Not because I think burning books is good (I do not)

But because I should be able too. Because we have no Blasphemy laws and mean as it is, it’s not illegal and shouldn’t be.

And I want to do it to all of them to make the point it’s not about Islam, though it is provoked by today’s news.

This country is secular, blasphemy laws do not exist. And they shouldn’t.

if it takes every person burning a single religious book of their choosing to make the point - then I’m up for that.

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hummousnothamas · 09/05/2025 11:50

For those interested in the case of the teenage boy who scuffed a copy of the Qu'ran, here is a link to a discussion of it on Anti- Social
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001jsr2

Its well worth a listen.

This was a disgraceful incident. The boy, who was autistic, had committed no crime at all. Others sent death threats to him and he was terrified. His Mother had to go and beg at a local mosque for the harassment and threats to her son to end. The police were there watching her beg and nothing was done to those threatening her son. The muslim speaker in the linked programme talks of how terrible it is that the Qu'ran was disrespected yet dismisses the death threats with a laugh as, ' ;'boys will be boys.' He had committed no crime, others were committing crimes against him with the threats and harassment. Yet his Mother is the one publicly begging for forgiveness for him, with police there, and the police and no-one else are holding in mind that he is the victim of crime, not the muslim community.

I imagine this is the sort of thing OP is referencing. This should not be happening in a secular country.

AntiSocial - Blasphemy laws and free speech - BBC Sounds

How do you balance respect for religion with free speech?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001jsr2

ThatNaiceMember · 09/05/2025 11:48

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 09/05/2025 07:58

I'm an atheist. I think religion can cause a lot of problems, but I'm not sure how non-believers deliberately seeking to disrespect believers is going to help.

100% this

Switcher · 09/05/2025 11:47

Yellowhammer09 · 09/05/2025 11:11

As a Catholic I'd be very upset - and repulsed - to see you burn the Bible, but I wouldn't have you arrested for it.

Burn the Quran and you'll probably have to go into hiding. The boy who dropped the Quran in school was suspended and his mother had to don a hijab and apologise for it on television. How does anyone think 'yes, this is the normal and good response'?

Indeed that's the issue. Of course it's offensive to burn religious texts, but it beggars belief that anyone thinks it's a good idea to apply a different standard to Islam on its own.

Switcher · 09/05/2025 11:46

Well I have no desire to burn any books, really, or to deliberately cause offence, but I agree that it should not be a criminal offence to do so.

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/05/2025 11:46

Do you have copies lying around or are you going to buy them specially for burning @JustMakingAPoint?

hummousnothamas · 09/05/2025 11:40

Cherrysoup · 09/05/2025 11:12

Secular country? Rampant nonsense. There's a church on every corner round my way, plus a Hindu temple, several mosques....

Secular country does not mean there are no people of faith in it. It means we are not a theocracy.

hummousnothamas · 09/05/2025 11:36

Yes you should be able to without having to fear retaliation and going into hiding.

Being a free, democratic society means people can do things which are provocative and which offends others. Being a free society means people are free to do things which others find 'not nice.' Being a free society means that people raise their objections to the words and actions of others without threatening or harming the other person. We should be a tolerant, pluralistic society and that means people don't have to be respectful of views or ideologies they do not respect or which they consider harmful. Being a tolerant society means we don't try to silence views, or people, we disagree with. We debate them. And our politicians and leaders, and each of us, should all stand up for this tolerant, debating and free society.

So yes OP, you are being reasonable.

And people saying, ' yes you can but you shouldn't because that's not respectful' are entirely missing the point.

Dotjones · 09/05/2025 11:34

It's fine, just make sure that you are clearly identifiable in the footage as you burn them and make it very clear which texts are being destroyed. So there are no misunderstandings.

MissyB1 · 09/05/2025 11:34

OP clearly dissappeared off to have a big bonfire 😂 probably having a sulk somewhere now because no one paid any attention

AnonymousBleep · 09/05/2025 11:29

What is today's news that is making the OP want to burn religious books? The new Pope?

MidnightMusing5 · 09/05/2025 11:24

Burning books are typically what the uneducated, illiterate beings do. Mainly because they don’t have the intelligence to communicate in any other way.

In regard to religion be root of all evil etc. Take yourself to your local library and dig into some history books. Bloody thirsty atheists aplenty.

The root of all evil, imo, all boils down to money.
The people at the top don’t want the masses to follow the restraint that religion teaches- it’s bad for business. How to get rid of religion? Vilify it. It works on the lazy who have little to no knowledge, and garner all their “information “ from the media.

religion isn’t evil. People are.

nomas · 09/05/2025 11:23

dudsville · 09/05/2025 11:09

I'm not respectful of any religion, but neither am I actively seeking out opportunities to display that. I can see the difference between burning an Islamic text versus burning a Christian one though.

How respectful of you.

Tortielady · 09/05/2025 11:23

To be fair, some out-of-date texts are a menace to society. I once had a first aid manual that insisted on tourniquets to control bleeding. And when I was an advice worker, we were haunted by redundant law texts, especially The Reader's Digest You and Your Rights. According to some of our clients, it was the favourite reading of Walter the Windbag, their local's in-house "legal expert." Because it was badly out-of-date, (assuming it was all that accurate to start with) it caused a lot of confusion and distress to people who already had a lot of deal with.

AzurePanda · 09/05/2025 11:19

dudsville · 09/05/2025 11:09

I'm not respectful of any religion, but neither am I actively seeking out opportunities to display that. I can see the difference between burning an Islamic text versus burning a Christian one though.

What’s the difference?

Yellowhammer09 · 09/05/2025 11:18

PlutoCat · 09/05/2025 11:17

The link doesn't work.

Gotta remove the query string from the url. But someone has posted it above anyway.

I take back television - I should have written broadcasted.

Either way it is utterly BONKERS.

nomas · 09/05/2025 11:18

Yellowhammer09 · 09/05/2025 11:11

As a Catholic I'd be very upset - and repulsed - to see you burn the Bible, but I wouldn't have you arrested for it.

Burn the Quran and you'll probably have to go into hiding. The boy who dropped the Quran in school was suspended and his mother had to don a hijab and apologise for it on television. How does anyone think 'yes, this is the normal and good response'?

I think Catholics stopped caring when they started selling snow globes with Jesus’ face at the Vatican.

PlutoCat · 09/05/2025 11:17

Yellowhammer09 · 09/05/2025 11:17

It's linked in the Reddit post somewhere upthread. Just because it's not mainstream television doesn't mean it's not broadcasted.

The link doesn't work.

PlutoCat · 09/05/2025 11:17

Cherrysoup · 09/05/2025 11:12

Secular country? Rampant nonsense. There's a church on every corner round my way, plus a Hindu temple, several mosques....

A secular country does not mean a country where religion doesn't exist.

Yellowhammer09 · 09/05/2025 11:17

PlutoCat · 09/05/2025 11:12

Can you link to the television apology? Which channel?

It's linked in the Reddit post somewhere upthread. Just because it's not mainstream television doesn't mean it's not broadcasted.

nomas · 09/05/2025 11:15

CantStopMoving · 09/05/2025 11:03

So ceremonially burning my old text books from uni when I finished was a no no then…

Not when you could give them away for the next set of students to use.

DodgersJammyAndOtherwise · 09/05/2025 11:15

It's pointless, weird and polluting so...no.

nomas · 09/05/2025 11:14

JustMakingAPoint · 09/05/2025 07:54

Not because I hate or dislike them.

Not because I think burning books is good (I do not)

But because I should be able too. Because we have no Blasphemy laws and mean as it is, it’s not illegal and shouldn’t be.

And I want to do it to all of them to make the point it’s not about Islam, though it is provoked by today’s news.

This country is secular, blasphemy laws do not exist. And they shouldn’t.

if it takes every person burning a single religious book of their choosing to make the point - then I’m up for that.

Knock yourself out. Every Qu’ran you burn just strengthens a Muslim’s faith.

Pleasantsort · 09/05/2025 11:13

Oh fabulous

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 09/05/2025 11:12

CantStopMoving · 09/05/2025 11:03

So ceremonially burning my old text books from uni when I finished was a no no then…

well if you have a uni education you shouldn’t really have to have the difference between the two explained to you