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Evacuation wouldn’t happen now would it?

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Bellavida99 · 08/05/2025 21:02

Just watching about evacuation. I initially thought that definitely wouldn’t happen now. But then I remembered how we all did as we were told during Covid even when it meant not visiting relatives etc and I wonder if it could happen

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MrsMoastyToasty · 15/05/2025 19:02

My Dad's evacuation was part of the Children's Overseas Reception Board (CORB). The scheme finished when The City Of Benares was sunk with many children's lives lost. The ship my dad was on was 2 days further out of port when it happened.

x2boys · 12/05/2025 11:03

Elsvieta · 12/05/2025 09:16

Approximately half of all evacuations were "private" rather than part of the government scheme - people sending kids to stay with people they knew in safer parts of the country or even other countries, such as the US / Canada. (I've heard of one case where the parents misjudged the situation pretty dramatically and sent their son to the Channel Islands). Some of these schemes were run through people's employers or other organisations, charities and so on. Some organisations like boarding schools and homes for disabled children moved wholesale for the duration. These evacuations tended to last longer than the ones that just send kids to entirely random strangers, in which a very high proportion of kids went home again within a year.

Evacuating your kids (in the government scheme) was never mandatory, and some people didn't. Being a host family, however, was - it was just a case of the man from the ministry checking if you had a spare room and a woman in the house and deciding how many evacuees you were getting - no choice. This, I think, is the part that would not fly today.

If there was a risk of my kids getting bombed, I think I would do it. And don't forget that in the government scheme, mothers of under-fives were evacuated with them.

There wouldn't have been much in the way of safe guarding ,my Grandparents ended up.with two.evacuees ,because the first person they had been sent to stay with was an older single male ,and they didn't feel. Comfortable,I'm not in anyway suggesting he was inappropriate with them but it seems a strange first choice for two.young girls
I.think they ended up staying with my Grandparents for a few years and always kept in touch with my Grandma right up.untill her death in 2001.

Elsvieta · 12/05/2025 09:16

Bellavida99 · 08/05/2025 21:02

Just watching about evacuation. I initially thought that definitely wouldn’t happen now. But then I remembered how we all did as we were told during Covid even when it meant not visiting relatives etc and I wonder if it could happen

Approximately half of all evacuations were "private" rather than part of the government scheme - people sending kids to stay with people they knew in safer parts of the country or even other countries, such as the US / Canada. (I've heard of one case where the parents misjudged the situation pretty dramatically and sent their son to the Channel Islands). Some of these schemes were run through people's employers or other organisations, charities and so on. Some organisations like boarding schools and homes for disabled children moved wholesale for the duration. These evacuations tended to last longer than the ones that just send kids to entirely random strangers, in which a very high proportion of kids went home again within a year.

Evacuating your kids (in the government scheme) was never mandatory, and some people didn't. Being a host family, however, was - it was just a case of the man from the ministry checking if you had a spare room and a woman in the house and deciding how many evacuees you were getting - no choice. This, I think, is the part that would not fly today.

If there was a risk of my kids getting bombed, I think I would do it. And don't forget that in the government scheme, mothers of under-fives were evacuated with them.

Washingupdone · 11/05/2025 22:13

Threat would be more on the lines of cutting electricity (Spain and Portugal this last week) and blocking communications (Russia and China do this to their own population now.
Civilisation as we know it would be held to ransom, no need to have a war with people fighting.

whynotmereally · 11/05/2025 19:00

If covid happened again I think less people would obey but a different situation yes they would

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 11/05/2025 17:59

Clarabellemt · 11/05/2025 15:13

She can come to me in Wales if you'd like. She'd fit right in at my house. I hope it would never be needed but I am sure our community would step up if we were called on.

🥰 x

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 11/05/2025 17:53

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 11/05/2025 15:33

Yeah this thread took a bit of an early 2020 turn, when people seemed convinced that we'd all be living a real life version of 21 days later.

Having said that I hope you are ok @mumofoneAlonebutokay (my fellow gossiper!) as anxiety is a horror to deal with sometimes.

@AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta 🙌💕 I'm okay now xx

Anxiety is horrible, it takes your mind to ridiculous places 😪

CatherineDurrant · 11/05/2025 17:25

Of course, having concern for your children is perfectly reasonable with regard to the Russia situation, but the better use of your energy is to make some plans. Being organised and having plan B will probably boost your confidence as this goes on.

The Government has been quietly increasing what it calls "resilience" on national and local levels. Here's a link to one area's site for basic starting point. https://www.thamesvalleylrf.org.uk/prepare/are-you-ready

Having a "go" bag isn't new and if you're having trouble with the idea, just think of it as a form of insurance: getting it implies something could happen but you buy the right "policy" for you and hope you never need to use it. This is no different. It's like having a powercut box or first aid kit.

WW2-style child evacuation isn't likely. Warfare and parental expectations have changed to the point where communities would be evacuated on short term basis rather than children only on a long term basis.

Are you Ready? - Thames Valley Local Resilience Forum

https://www.thamesvalleylrf.org.uk/prepare/are-you-ready/

ginasevern · 11/05/2025 17:09

Genevieva · 11/05/2025 15:18

A lot of people in the U.K. would leave. There wasn’t mass affordable international transport in the 40s and few people had a backup citizenship.

There were enemy submarines ready to blow civilian ships out of the water no matter how much money you had. Air evacuation was equally subject to enemy fire. This is assuming the OP is talking about a war situation and not something only affecting our country. Even if she isn't, how tenable would mass emigration actually be?

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 11/05/2025 15:33

Alexandra2001 · 11/05/2025 07:34

This is exactly what i mean... people saying they'll stop the mob coming to their house and others saying you'd need to kill them all...

I mean how?

How many of us have a selection of rifles and ammunition? plus if this scenario ever was to play out, what happens when you go back out to get food/water.... you think the mob wont also have weapons?

Fucking ridiculous.

Yeah this thread took a bit of an early 2020 turn, when people seemed convinced that we'd all be living a real life version of 21 days later.

Having said that I hope you are ok @mumofoneAlonebutokay (my fellow gossiper!) as anxiety is a horror to deal with sometimes.

Genevieva · 11/05/2025 15:18

A lot of people in the U.K. would leave. There wasn’t mass affordable international transport in the 40s and few people had a backup citizenship.

Clarabellemt · 11/05/2025 15:13

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 08/05/2025 21:12

I worry about it all the time

Dd is autistic - what would happen to her 🥺

We live in London as well. Where would we all evacuate to, is there enough room in the countryside

God 🥺🥺

She can come to me in Wales if you'd like. She'd fit right in at my house. I hope it would never be needed but I am sure our community would step up if we were called on.

Abecedar9988 · 11/05/2025 14:06

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 08/05/2025 21:12

I worry about it all the time

Dd is autistic - what would happen to her 🥺

We live in London as well. Where would we all evacuate to, is there enough room in the countryside

God 🥺🥺

92% of the UK is not built on.

there’s space

Rhaenys · 11/05/2025 10:32

asrl78 · 11/05/2025 09:56

No-one is fighting off intruders in waves. It is living in the realms of fantasy to think that one family can hold back a crowd of hundreds or thousands of desperate people. You'll fight them off for a few minutes then get overwhelmed and killed.

You’re being ridiculous.

x2boys · 11/05/2025 10:26

sashh · 11/05/2025 10:20

Yes I can imagine.

Whenever there is a documentary that says the Royal family lived on rations and had shallow baths I think about the vast estates they have and the produce that comes from them. And not just fruit and veg, game and farm animals.

It was the same during the pandemic when William and Kate were trying to empathise about home schooling ,their three children
It's a vastly different experience having nannies and tutors to help compared
to the ordinary family trying to get their kids to engage.

Ownedbykitties · 11/05/2025 10:20

@Sskkarules and laws can be changed to fit new circumstances though. If it came to it, evacuation might be seen as a lesser risk to children than being attacked by bombs and the awful consequences of that.

sashh · 11/05/2025 10:20

justasking111 · 11/05/2025 08:14

Farming family in Cheshire had no food shortages they had plenty of meat, vegetables, milk, eggs. Another relative took home a slaughtered pig once for the family.

Yes I can imagine.

Whenever there is a documentary that says the Royal family lived on rations and had shallow baths I think about the vast estates they have and the produce that comes from them. And not just fruit and veg, game and farm animals.

asrl78 · 11/05/2025 09:56

BMW6 · 09/05/2025 15:39

  1. They'd be among millions on the roads so going nowhere fast
  1. Other people would get to your place in Wales long before your family. You'd be literally fighting off intruders. In waves. Endlessly.

No-one is fighting off intruders in waves. It is living in the realms of fantasy to think that one family can hold back a crowd of hundreds or thousands of desperate people. You'll fight them off for a few minutes then get overwhelmed and killed.

asrl78 · 11/05/2025 09:52

SuperTrooper14 · 08/05/2025 21:22

Considering the next world war would most likely be a nuclear-level event, I’d want my DC to stay with me and their dad in London. Better to be together in the blast zone than them waiting for the poisonous cloud to reach them in the countryside knowing we were already dead.

If we had a nuclear war, we're either all dead or the survivors will wish they were dead, so all that is irrelevant.

I see no logic in worrying about a fatal but extremely unlikely event none of us can do anything about. At worst, it will wreck your mental health.

SunnySideDeepDown · 11/05/2025 09:38

sashh · 10/05/2025 08:14

That's because you have never been in the situation where you have to make that choice. And you probably can't even think about why you would make that choice.

If you were on the first floor of your house, there is a fire on the ground floor and someone outside tells you to throw your child out the window to them, you would do it, because that is the better choice.

Throwing a child to a complete stranger is not usually a good idea but sometimes it is the best of a series of bad ideas.

How does someone know what’s going to happen to them in war? Civilians aren’t guaranteed to die or be directly affected. In a fire, you know you’ll burn to death. In war, it may not be heavily affecting your area, it may end soon, you may find a way to escape together. Millions of people are still living in Ukraine, for example, many still healthy and living as families. Many mothers and children moved countries to escape. How many children do you know who came on their own?

Its a massive safeguarding risk and I’m genuinely not sure which is better, a quick death or a childhood of abuse and being separated from your loving family and all the long term mental health issues that will undoubtedly cause. There are lots of bad people out there, my job is to keep my kids safe.

justasking111 · 11/05/2025 08:14

sashh · 11/05/2025 05:01

@x2boys
Everyone being effected by rationing was a bit of a myth. Yes the ordinary people were in the same boat (more of that in a bit) but if you had a country estate you could keep everything you grew / shot / caught.

Fish was not rationed. So if you lived on the coast with a fishing fleet you could buy what was available. This led to people from inland areas taking a day trip to port towns if they didn't have a 'wet' fish shop.

Farming family in Cheshire had no food shortages they had plenty of meat, vegetables, milk, eggs. Another relative took home a slaughtered pig once for the family.

Alexandra2001 · 11/05/2025 07:34

This is exactly what i mean... people saying they'll stop the mob coming to their house and others saying you'd need to kill them all...

I mean how?

How many of us have a selection of rifles and ammunition? plus if this scenario ever was to play out, what happens when you go back out to get food/water.... you think the mob wont also have weapons?

Fucking ridiculous.

YellowOrangePink · 11/05/2025 06:40

emmatherhino · 09/05/2025 19:32

Cool.

They'd get here.

And no one else would be coming in my house. Just them.

How many people are you willing to kill to be sure of that?

Alexandra2001 · 11/05/2025 06:35

Do people really spend endless hours worrying about things that wont happen?

Russia cannot even defeat a relative small country like Ukraine, there is no other realistic threat to the UK.... though Reform do seem to want conflict with France....

The real threats to the UK come from ourselves & the idiotic things we do as a nation and as individuals.

Badbadbunny · 11/05/2025 06:17

londongirl12 · 08/05/2025 21:20

I think war would be so different now. There wouldn’t be hundreds of bombers flying overhead. Just one plane dropping a nuclear bomb. Absolutely terrifying.

Look at Ukraine! Look at Israel, Syria, Iraq, India/Pakistan. Not bombers overhead, but missiles and drones. Nuclear would be last resort.

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