To not get into partners car after “2 pints”

I would never, ever get into a car by myself, let alone with a baby with anyone driving who has had a single drop of booze within a close enough period of time for it not to be out of their system.

Stand your ground, the man is a total fuckwit.

I’m in Scotland with a lower limit so he would def be over the limit. No one I know has even one pint here now, we just don’t drink and drive at all. It’s removed a lot of that social pressure of “oh just have the one” which is great.

I loathe drunk drivers - it’s the epitome of selfishness to me. Endangering not only his family’s life but completely innocent others he may take down with him.

It’s not controlling to point out he’s risking everyone’s lives, his licence, his job possibly too.

He sounds deeply immature.

I’m not in UK, but we have a 0.05 limit for full license drivers. With that limit, while individuals vary, the rule of thumb is men should keep to no more than 2 standard drinks in the first hour, and can have one per hour after that. Women are one per hour. Of course, if you are a 5’ lightweight, or haven’t eaten for several hours, you probably want to err on the more conservative side and decrease that.

It’s an absolute minefield because he genuinely could be right and 2 is fine

but there’s too much to chance and it literally is 50/50 if he’s over or under the limit

we all make our own judgement calls on this he’s made his and he could well be right
but it literally is to chance rather than definite

https://morning-after.org.uk/drink-drive-calculator/

This calculator says to wait 6 hours after drinking two pints of 4% beer/lager (eg Foster’s).

My guess is that if you’re going out in the evening and he’s drinking after work then there hasn’t been 6 hours for it to be metabolised.

YANBU. And you’re right to stop your baby travelling in the car too. Sadly, this would mean I couldn’t leave my DC in his care in the evening because I couldn’t trust him not to drive.

It really depends on the person if 2 pints pushes them out of legal or not. Body fat etc but in my head, no alcohol is the only acceptable thing for driving a car. I won't even drive with a slight hangover. So I don't blame you OP.

You can buy home breathalysers though if you want to prove a point.

Two pints may be within the “legal limits” depending on his size, what he’s eaten that day etc.

But if he ends up killing someone (or himself) because his reaction times are slowed by alcohol, that doesn’t really help does it 🤷‍♀️

He shouldn’t be drinking and driving.

I believe 2 pints would be over the limit, does depend over what time scale, Google it. Many countries have nil alcohol driving which I think means any alcohol can have a negative effect on someone’s ability to drive safely. He’s only fooling himself, likely to have Drunk Driving offender if he’s breathalysed .

Two pints for a adult man, which presumably has been consumed over an hour or so, would normally be fine but I wouldn't be impressed that he is happy to take the risk when he doesn't know for sure. My OH will have 1 pint max if he is driving; which is normally consumed at the beginning of the evening and then he is driving several hours later. He wouldn't drink 2 pints in succession and drive.

Two pints might be over the limit, it might not. There are too many variables to be sure. The OP and partner have no way of knowing.

Like the speed limit, it’s a limit not a target, and zero is safest.

Once you tell him 2 pints is over the limit he will tell you he only has 1 now.

He has no interest in changing.

You have a bit of learned helplessness here to address.

Why can't you google the limit?
Why is No not simple the answer?
Why are you accepting someone woth an alcohol habit that negatively affects your life, who comes home and starts rows, to be in your life?

I struggle to believe the relationship is otherwise perfect.

FYI, most women aren't controlling, we are conditioned to accept mems shitty behaviour for fear of being called controlling by dickhead men. Not wanting to be in a car with a man who, regardless of legal limit, has impaired judgement, is not controlling.

2 pints for a man would usually be under the limit.

Agree

YANBU.

His priority is clearly drinking. I think he has a problem. By extension, you do too.

Drink driving in Ireland

If he's in Ireland and drinking and driving he could face a fine and a 3 month ban. You're not a nag or wrong when you refuse to get in the car with him.

Even if he isn’t over the limit (and I think he would be) I wouldn’t get in a car with anyone who has had a drop of alcohol personally. Certainly don’t put your baby in the car with him.
good luck with driving, you will be glad you learned 💕

It's not controlling to want your husband not to drink every night and spend a fortune on booze. It's not dramatic not to get into a car with a baby, with a driver who has drunk an unknown quantity of alcohol.

I'd tell the drunken twat to fuck off.

The idea that 'two pints' was about ok for driving was in the nineties or earlier, when driving after a drink (rather than zero drinking) was more acceptable, AND beer was weaker.
There's no exact way of telling as others have said, but a rough estimate is up to 3 units of beer for an adult male, assuming they've taken a bit of time to drink it and not just necked it.

Two pints of 3% lager would be just over 3 units, so already dodgy.
Two pints of 5% lager (which is average strength now) is closer to 6 units.

And that's going off what he tells you he's had, if he's saying it's two it's much more likely to be three (or more)

You're not over reacting, you're under reacting. If he is caught drink driving, it's a guaranteed 12 month ban. There's virtually zero chance of mitigating circs.

Drink drivers kill people. Are you happy being with a man with so little regard for people’s lives? That’s the big issue.

It's not a set limit like that. 1 pint might be fine for some or 1 pint might put some people over the limit.
He's full of shit.

Scotland none . England I think possibly one .
Again it’s all about how it affects you . Half can be ok for one person and too much for another

If ge is saying two is ok . You can at least double that. Men always half it or if it’s money or penis size they double it .

Why bother drinking any alcohol when you have passenger's

Bloody hell, his attitude sounds like a throwback to about the 60s.

Absolutely not and if he had driven I would have called the police. That’s my red line and everyone who know me knows it.