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Was neighbour BU?

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BarbarellaC · 06/05/2025 23:51

Will try and make it quick. I have a 10 (ish) month old cat. He has only started going out in the garden in the past few weeks since the weather has been warm.

We have a fairly secure garden and, up to now, he has generally stayed in the garden but has wondered out once or twice (sometimes he just climbs the trees in our garden so we can't always see him), but always come back when we call him or rattle his biscuits. We live near a main road so I'm not keen on him venturing too far beyond our garden.

He has a new tractive tracker but hates wearing it so DH took it off him last night and I didn't have time to chase him t9 put it back on before I went to work. So he didn't have it on today. I let him out at just after 8pm when it was still light and, when I came downstairs again, the cat was nowhere to be seen. Called him, rattled biscuits, nothing. By then I was worried because he had never taken so long to come back.

So I went out to look for him and did a couple of rounds at the back and front of our house. Then knocked on our nice neighbour's door and he kindly said he would look in his garden. Knocked on the other neighbour's door (youngish couple, no kids) and, despite their lights being on, they didn't answer the door. It was obviously me as they have a sensor light so I lit up like Blackpool tower while standing on their doorstep. No answer still.

By the time I walked back around the block, DH called to say the cat had emerged. He had jumped over the second neighbour's fence. So, he was in their garden and had they been kind enough to look, they would have spotted him.

Anyway, all fine in the end. Cat is OK and won't be going out without his tracker again. I can't stop him from jumping over the high fence and going into the neighbour's garden though.

But, my AIBU is whether I am wrong to think the neighbour was being unreasonable in not opening the door to someone who is obviously a neighbour and likely in need of help / a favour?

The men never talk to us but, if a neighbour knocked on my door at 8.30pm, I would answer it because it seems like the kind and neighbourly thing to do.

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FedupofArsenalgame · 07/05/2025 08:56

B1anche · 07/05/2025 00:03

I wouldn't have answered the door that late. They were probably relaxing and didn't want to get up. Sounds like it wasn't exactly an emergency in any case.

Is 8pm late?

GingerPaste · 07/05/2025 08:54

I had this with a neighbour with a young cat that hadn’t come home and seemed to be constantly up my tree, miaowing. Neighbour knocked on my door several times resulting in a lot of time and all sorts of shenanigans trying to get the cat down. Totally bloody annoying and disruptive to my free time.

Yes, you were being unreasonable and you do sound overreactive and entitled.

Callie247 · 07/05/2025 08:46

Time is complely irrelevant. People don't have to answer their doors full stop. It's not an obligation.

BarbarellaC · 07/05/2025 08:41

Floatlikeafeather2 · 07/05/2025 08:39

I can't stop him jumping over the high fence.

Yes, you can. It's perfectly possible to cat proof your garden and you should have done it before you let him out for the first time, particularly as you live in a built up area, for his safety. There are mesh panels that curve inwards which you attach to your fence panels, for example. Catios. Do a search for "cat proofing garden" and all sorts of things will pop up. It's not your neighbours' responsibility to track down your cat for you, whatever they were doing. It's none of your business. And, you may well find that those neighbours already aren't too keen on your cat if it's hanging out in their garden.

Will do, thanks

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Floatlikeafeather2 · 07/05/2025 08:39

I can't stop him jumping over the high fence.

Yes, you can. It's perfectly possible to cat proof your garden and you should have done it before you let him out for the first time, particularly as you live in a built up area, for his safety. There are mesh panels that curve inwards which you attach to your fence panels, for example. Catios. Do a search for "cat proofing garden" and all sorts of things will pop up. It's not your neighbours' responsibility to track down your cat for you, whatever they were doing. It's none of your business. And, you may well find that those neighbours already aren't too keen on your cat if it's hanging out in their garden.

Reliablesource · 07/05/2025 08:29

YABU. No one is obliged to answer their door to anyone. I would hate anyone coming to my door after about 6pm, that is my evening time when I will be preparing dinner, relaxing in front of the TV, I might even have changed into my sloppy clothes which I wouldn’t want neighbours seeing me in!

I certainly wouldn’t take kindly to being asked to look in my garden for someone’s stupid cat just because you can’t find him. Are you proposing to pester your neighbours every time you can’t find the cat? That would really piss me off. As would it if your cat kept coming into my garden to pooh and scare birds. You need to cat-proof your garden.

HoskinsChoice · 07/05/2025 08:29

BarbarellaC · 07/05/2025 00:21

I do wonder whether that's a regional or rural / urban thing though. Tea at 5pm, bed by 8pm.

Yes, this is definitely correct. Only London people stay up past 8pm. Country bumpkins in the Cotswolds, the Lakes, Birmingham and Manchester have nothing better to do than go to bed, maybe with a horlicks and a book to read by candlelight. 🙄

BarbarellaC · 07/05/2025 08:26

Ofcoursehesthefkingfarmer · 07/05/2025 08:22

I don’t have neighbours, but if someone I had never met or spoken to appeared at my doorstep at 8.30pm and asked me to go into my own garden to look for their cat then yes 100% they would be told to fuck off because obviously that’s a wholly unreasonable request, as the poll from your original post has hopefully highlighted to you.

Yes I realise IABU but didn't think I'd be told to fuck off. That's enlightening, thanks

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BarbarellaC · 07/05/2025 08:24

ParmaVioletTea · 07/05/2025 08:15

But, my AIBU is whether I am wrong to think the neighbour was being unreasonable in not opening the door to someone who is obviously a neighbour and likely in need of help / a favour?

Yes YABU.

It's yours and your DH's attitude that a straying cat is someone else's responsibility.

Would you be tolerant if that neighbour had a dog which found its way into your garden? And fouled your garden? Cats foul gardens, but somehow, it's other people's problem, not you and your DH's?

I accept IABU. I would join a search party for a missing dog and wouldn't mind if they pooed in my garden.

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Floatlikeafeather2 · 07/05/2025 08:23

BarbarellaC · 07/05/2025 00:21

I do wonder whether that's a regional or rural / urban thing though. Tea at 5pm, bed by 8pm.

Snide.

UndermyShoeJoe · 07/05/2025 08:23

Unless you could see your cat stuck or trapped in the neighbours garden I wouldn’t have gone knocking. If you let cats out you have to get used to the fact they don’t always want to come in and they go where they want. The longer and warmer the nights the later and later they will want to be out.

Ofcoursehesthefkingfarmer · 07/05/2025 08:22

BarbarellaC · 07/05/2025 08:19

You'd tell your neighbour to fuck off? That's quite a strong reaction. Genuinely didn't think people would say fuck off to a neighbour who was just looking for their cat.

I don’t have neighbours, but if someone I had never met or spoken to appeared at my doorstep at 8.30pm and asked me to go into my own garden to look for their cat then yes 100% they would be told to fuck off because obviously that’s a wholly unreasonable request, as the poll from your original post has hopefully highlighted to you.

BarbarellaC · 07/05/2025 08:19

Ofcoursehesthefkingfarmer · 07/05/2025 06:58

I’m rural, just because we aren’t in London, we’re not all boring AF 🙄

I would answer the door, because we’re remote and anyone at 8.30pm would presumably have a purpose, although if it was someone wanting me to search my garden for the cat they let out, I’d be telling them to fuck off.

I assume you’re new to cat ownership and from your posts I think you’re in for a very steep learning curve. It won’t continue to come back for the biscuits indefinitely fyi.

You'd tell your neighbour to fuck off? That's quite a strong reaction. Genuinely didn't think people would say fuck off to a neighbour who was just looking for their cat.

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ParmaVioletTea · 07/05/2025 08:15

But, my AIBU is whether I am wrong to think the neighbour was being unreasonable in not opening the door to someone who is obviously a neighbour and likely in need of help / a favour?

Yes YABU.

It's yours and your DH's attitude that a straying cat is someone else's responsibility.

Would you be tolerant if that neighbour had a dog which found its way into your garden? And fouled your garden? Cats foul gardens, but somehow, it's other people's problem, not you and your DH's?

CluelessAboutBiology · 07/05/2025 07:15

If you mr cat doesn’t like the feel of the trackers that dangle from the collar, have a look at https://pettracer.com/ The tracker is in the collar itself. It’s not cheap, but it has GPS and radio tracking.

Numberfish · 07/05/2025 07:11

BarbarellaC · 07/05/2025 04:47

Yes, I think a big mistake I made was jot realising 8.30 is "before bed". I accept that.

BTW, I am a parent. My DS is now 18 and at uni so am done with the night wakings, early mornings, nursery and school run, then work, etc.

If you’ve actually had kids I don’t understand why you’d think people should be free to come to the door - at any time - so much so that you’re on MN checking that neighbours are unreasonable for not being free to answer the door? There are a million reasons they couldn’t. It’s actually you who are being very unreasonable. God help your poor neighbours now you have a reason to think their garden is now available to you as part of your lifestyle.

SparklyGlitterballs · 07/05/2025 07:07

I remember when my cat was a kitty and we started letting her out for the first time. When she went over the fence I was panic stricken that she wouldn't return (also near a main road) and I would call, shake biscuits, everything. My elderly neighbour would say "don't worry, she'll come back", but I wasn't convinced. Like me, you'll look back on this in years to come and cringe at how daft you're being, but it's natural to worry when you love your pet. Glitterballcat is 16 this year and doesn't go quite as far now.

Some good ideas suggested for cat proofing your garden, but be mindful that if any of your trees reach over the boundary, puss will just use the tree as a means of escape. Catios are a great idea if you have the space to erect a good sized one.

Ofcoursehesthefkingfarmer · 07/05/2025 06:58

BarbarellaC · 07/05/2025 00:21

I do wonder whether that's a regional or rural / urban thing though. Tea at 5pm, bed by 8pm.

I’m rural, just because we aren’t in London, we’re not all boring AF 🙄

I would answer the door, because we’re remote and anyone at 8.30pm would presumably have a purpose, although if it was someone wanting me to search my garden for the cat they let out, I’d be telling them to fuck off.

I assume you’re new to cat ownership and from your posts I think you’re in for a very steep learning curve. It won’t continue to come back for the biscuits indefinitely fyi.

tigger1001 · 07/05/2025 06:49

you weren't unreasonable for knocking on their door, but they were also not unreasonable to not answer, for what ever reason.

Bearhunt468 · 07/05/2025 05:00

My DH does shifts as a paramedic and has to go to bed around 8ish to get up for an early. I look after the kids and often woken up several times by baby and then up at 6am by earlier riser child so go to bed around 8ish as well in the hope to get a fair amount of sleep. Id be fuming at you if you disturbed me for a cat that is out exploring for 30 minutes. Ridiculous!

In a genuine emergency from neighbours I wouldn't be angry if they needed us. We've had neighbours knocking on our door for my DH help as he could get there quicker than ambulance - totally fine to be disturbed. Genuine emergency.

Maybe next time just send a text to your neighbours asking if they've seen the car/can check?

Flamingopingo · 07/05/2025 04:57

I'm in bed by 8.30 (5am starts) so would definitely be ignoring the door. I don't think they're rude, who knows what they were up to

BarbarellaC · 07/05/2025 04:47

Numberfish · 07/05/2025 02:56

Oh OP. Wait till you have to get up at 2am to see to the baby and 5.30am to get the kids ready and get off to work. 8.30pm is a No Kid’s Yet’s 11pm.
And yes, YABTU to imagine that your poor neighbours are sitting round their house before bed eagerly awaiting to be asked to go promptly into their garden and look for a cat that’s been away exploring for 30 minutes. A cat which shouldn’t be there anyway, and will probably be a nuisance for their garden, which seems to completely have bypassed your awareness.

Edited

Yes, I think a big mistake I made was jot realising 8.30 is "before bed". I accept that.

BTW, I am a parent. My DS is now 18 and at uni so am done with the night wakings, early mornings, nursery and school run, then work, etc.

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WiddlinDiddlin · 07/05/2025 04:46

Loads of reasons why they may not answer the door (mid shit, mid shag, mid dinner, mid film, simply couldn't be arsed and no idea it was anything important)...

Even if they had gone and looked, theres a strong chance your cat was in there only for the few seconds it took to cross their garden from somewhere elses and he could have been many gardens down when you first started rattling the biscuits.

Cat proof your garden (fence toppers with rollers on them or inward hanging wire) or build a catio - never have this worry again.

BarbarellaC · 07/05/2025 04:45

mmsnet · 07/05/2025 01:52

your fault for not putting the tracker on and now shifting the blame the neighbours who have no obligation to answer their door

what an idiotic post

I didn't blame them at all. But you sound lovely.

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BarbarellaC · 07/05/2025 04:43

BlondiePortz · 07/05/2025 01:15

OP you have decided you were right and I really dont know what you are getting from this, you might be typing you relaise you should not expect your neigbours to have answered but I am not sure any of us beleive you understand

what do you want from this thread?

Hmm, in my replies I have:

  • agreed that it wasn't an emergency and I was being panicky as a new cat owner
  • agreed the neighbours could have been busy and are not in any case obliged to open the door
  • asked questions about the 8.30 issue and acknowledged I have a London centric view of the world
  • asked questions about suggestions offered to me and said I would look into them

I WAS surprised that they didn't answer the door, but this post has given me some insights as to why.

There's nothing I can do if you don't believe me! Why should any of us believe strangers on the Internet....?

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