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Time to get rid of the pope?

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KatyKopykat · 06/05/2025 22:38

I'm not Catholic so I don't know much about this. Could the world survive without the Pope? There's no need for a head of the Catholic church. There's no Anglican equivalent. Keep the bishop of Rome job, but leave it at that.

Expecting to get totally pasted here and I accept that I know nothing and happy to have explanations.

Admins @mnhq please remove if this is not allowed.

OP posts:
EmpressaurusKitty · 07/05/2025 20:31

Admins @mnhq please remove if this is not allowed.

I’ve seen that on some Facebook groups too & I’ve been wondering about the thought behind it. Is it meant to be a sign of politeness? What do you think would happen if the question wasn’t allowed & you hadn’t put that?

KatyKopykat · 07/05/2025 20:26

MissIonX · 07/05/2025 11:47

Wow.

You're not Catholic but feel qualified to say do away with the head of the Catholic church but keep bishop of Rome (two totally different posts) and then because you (incorrectly) state there's no Anglican equivalent, that's the rationale.

People never cease to amaze me.

I didn't say "do away with the pope" I asked about it.

OP posts:
pinkingshears · 07/05/2025 18:51

I don't know who it is on Sky news atm describing Pope Francis as 'superficial' with a style of 'schmaltz' but, despite his clerical robes, perhaps he agrees with the OP? !

trappedCatAsleepOnMe · 07/05/2025 18:36

SpanThatWorld · 07/05/2025 16:59

Which bit of the current History curriculum should we leave out in order to cover this?

Where did I mention changing history curriculums - there is more than one in UK and the welsh one my kids followed was pretty good - though am now thinking reading comprehension needs urgent attention.

I said I did do the Tudors (in England) - two terms of Tudor history with a lot of attention on Henry VIII and his wives not once was it even mentioned despite covering the reformation.

I learnt if from a you tube shorts where a guy was taking the piss about about how Henry VIII would want to be remembered - Navy reform to how he is having 6 wives- - so then went and looked it up - the video was less than a minute in length.

Mickeychampionwhatgoodami · 07/05/2025 18:08

The reincarnation of Ian Paisley has returned.🦖

Purplebunnie · 07/05/2025 17:27

I'm not Catholic but having read Conclave a couple of years ago and watched the film recently I'm quite invested in this. I've looked up the candidates and the BBC has a page with some of them. I quite like Jean-Marc Aveline. He's French, looks very jolly on the BBC's list and is one of the younger candidates, a possible factor against him according to the BBC webpage is that he isn't fluent in Italian.

Pierbattista Pizzaballa is Italian and very interesting as he has lived in Jerusalem for decades but what might be against him according to the BBC is that he is quite young.

Interesting times

Edited to make a little bit more sense

SpanThatWorld · 07/05/2025 16:59

trappedCatAsleepOnMe · 07/05/2025 11:38

I recently saw a You tuber talking about Henry VIII - and how one thing he did with the money he got from the reformation and flogging of the English church lands off to generate cash was set up the Royal Navy.

I knew his kids the later monaches didn't have vast wealthy to play with and had heard the navy under Eliabeth I English navy wasn't in great shape - but never heard anything beyond sinking of Mary Rose and Henry VIII so assumed he'd just partied the money away.

I knew Samuel Pepys had a role in Navy reform after the Restoration though wasn't taught this come in in period dramas and then read books about him and time period.

The Navy how Britian got rich and became a major world power - and despite covering Tudor history in school this was never mentioned with Henry VIII it's all about his sex life/marraiges/succession and the problems caused with the reformation.

Which bit of the current History curriculum should we leave out in order to cover this?

IberianBlackout · 07/05/2025 15:05

CranfordScones · 07/05/2025 08:51

I'm not Catholic so I don't know much about this.

You don't need to be Catholic. Teaching this sort of European history isn't fashionable among the trendy liberals who think it's not relevant to multicultural Britain. But it's necessary to understand how we got here. And how the Catholic church at one time owned 50% of Germany (as it is now) and 44% of France. It's all written down in books - just not the ones you find in schools.

It’s pretty basic history, it has nothing to do with trendiness lol. OP was just ignorant but thought she’d chip in regardless, for some reason.

MissIonX · 07/05/2025 11:47

KatyKopykat · 06/05/2025 22:38

I'm not Catholic so I don't know much about this. Could the world survive without the Pope? There's no need for a head of the Catholic church. There's no Anglican equivalent. Keep the bishop of Rome job, but leave it at that.

Expecting to get totally pasted here and I accept that I know nothing and happy to have explanations.

Admins @mnhq please remove if this is not allowed.

Wow.

You're not Catholic but feel qualified to say do away with the head of the Catholic church but keep bishop of Rome (two totally different posts) and then because you (incorrectly) state there's no Anglican equivalent, that's the rationale.

People never cease to amaze me.

SpanThatWorld · 07/05/2025 11:46

Echhoingloudlyy · 07/05/2025 10:13

We should get rid of religion altogether!

My reasons:

It’s male dominated

Religion subjugates women

Men hide behind the cloth in order to abuse children

Most wars are caused by religion

I actually think more wars now are caused by resources.

SpanThatWorld · 07/05/2025 11:44

TwinklyOrca · 07/05/2025 09:49

I think this is genuinely the stupidest thing I have ever read….

I think our tongues were firmly in our cheeks...

violetsorrengail · 07/05/2025 11:44

I think the world has got bigger fish to fry than ousting the Pope to be honest, I'd rather we concentrate our efforts elsewhere.

trappedCatAsleepOnMe · 07/05/2025 11:38

SpanThatWorld · 07/05/2025 09:29

There are vast swathes of European history that isn't taught in schools. Nothing to do with trendy liberals or multiculturalism. More to do with what you can do in 2 x 50 mins a week.

I recently saw a You tuber talking about Henry VIII - and how one thing he did with the money he got from the reformation and flogging of the English church lands off to generate cash was set up the Royal Navy.

I knew his kids the later monaches didn't have vast wealthy to play with and had heard the navy under Eliabeth I English navy wasn't in great shape - but never heard anything beyond sinking of Mary Rose and Henry VIII so assumed he'd just partied the money away.

I knew Samuel Pepys had a role in Navy reform after the Restoration though wasn't taught this come in in period dramas and then read books about him and time period.

The Navy how Britian got rich and became a major world power - and despite covering Tudor history in school this was never mentioned with Henry VIII it's all about his sex life/marraiges/succession and the problems caused with the reformation.

CornichonsAuBasile · 07/05/2025 11:36

KatyKopykat · 06/05/2025 22:38

I'm not Catholic so I don't know much about this. Could the world survive without the Pope? There's no need for a head of the Catholic church. There's no Anglican equivalent. Keep the bishop of Rome job, but leave it at that.

Expecting to get totally pasted here and I accept that I know nothing and happy to have explanations.

Admins @mnhq please remove if this is not allowed.

There's no need for a head of the Catholic church
Says someone who claims not to know much about it

Could the world survive without the Pope?
Is this a rhetorical question? Yo do know the whole world is not catholic, right?

There's no Anglican equivalent.
<ahem>

Keep the bishop of Rome job
So you know there is a Bishop of Rome. I thought you said you do not to know much about 'it' yet here you are delegating to the Bishop of Rome.

Expecting to get totally pasted here and I accept that I know nothing and happy to have explanations.
Happy to write a provocative post from a completely ignorant angle. Hmm

Admins please remove if this is not allowed.

I'm sure they don't need your say so 😂

@KatyKopykat my conclusion is that you are proud to be ignorant but love the attention, a happy loudmouth and a bossy boot. I'd give you a very wide berth if I met you in RL as my pre-menopausal hormones couldn't deal with you.

And no I'm not catholic but, you know I went to school and read books, so am somewhat informed.

scalt · 07/05/2025 11:32

Most mumsnetters would get rid of religion if they had their way, with the vitriol towards it on this site. “Sky fairies.” “Indoctrination of my DC.” “Imaginary friend.” “Presented as fact.”

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 07/05/2025 11:30

FriNightBlues · 07/05/2025 09:35

Congratulations on nailing the problem with democracy so succinctly. “I know nothing about this, but I’ve got an opinion!”

Pretty much the whole of AIBU too!

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 07/05/2025 11:29

Cathandkin · 07/05/2025 07:41

😂not one is included in the Conclave!
Imagine.

How very uninclusionary of them!

AlrightTrouble · 07/05/2025 11:19

Who’d you reckon would do a better job? Trump? 😅

1dayatatime · 07/05/2025 10:34

@swimsong

"I have no idea if this is a serious post or not. If it isn't 😅 If it is 🤣"

So I'm curious is the Pope Catholic then?

And whilst we are at it I'm also curious on where exactly do bears defecate?

Echhoingloudlyy · 07/05/2025 10:13

We should get rid of religion altogether!

My reasons:

It’s male dominated

Religion subjugates women

Men hide behind the cloth in order to abuse children

Most wars are caused by religion

Toddlerteaplease · 07/05/2025 10:09

ReplacementBusService · 06/05/2025 22:48

The Pope sends Father Christmas an official naughty/nice list at the start of December every year. Without that function, Christmas could not happen and parents would have to buy their own presents for the good kids. Donald Trump has offered to do it anyway so no need to worry 👍

😹😹

GasPanic · 07/05/2025 10:08

As far as I am aware the Pope is funded by the Catholic Church which is funded by the members of the Catholic Church. So it's up to them really if they want to "get rid" of the Pope and not really anyone else's business.

Imagine the outcry if this suggestion was made about the religious leaders of various other religions.

Enough said.

Boredlass · 07/05/2025 10:01

We should get rid of religion, not just the pope

Apollo365 · 07/05/2025 09:58

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 07/05/2025 09:51

Can I point out that OP has graciously admitted that they clearly raised a daft post.
No need to continue bashing her.

I didn’t RTFT either

Apollo365 · 07/05/2025 09:58

You can’t tell a religion (you aren’t part of) to get rid of the head of their religion!???