To think that there is a misunderstanding about social housing.

Where I am it's 3500-3700 for a 3 bed

Absolutely. I looked on the property availabe on the housing register in my area and a house that would suit my family is a whopping 260 a month cheaper than our current rent. For that amount it's a case of it's worth paying the small extra amount for what we have. I thought our rent was high but it seems not

Mine isn't. And never was. I'm in a HA.

Also agree.

@Octavia64 not always. It depends on how long you have lived somewhere.
if you're in a old style tenancy it can be very cheap but newer tenancies are a small percentage cheaper.
I pay £1300 for a 2 bed flat, my neighbour that has been in her place 30 years pays around £500
And just fyi, I work, not in receipt of any benefits. I will never give my flat up because you don't get any security privately

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/35181438/cupboard-council-flat-heroin-needles/

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/may/29/it-feels-like-theres-no-communication-a-social-tenants-struggle-for-safe-housing

Not at my age, no?

A lot of posts on here about kicking ppl out of homes once they are under occupying but not one about evicting the druggies and drug dealers which would be a lot quicker. Very telling

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwywgyg0zz5o

Let's not forget you had a parent's garage to live in; that was being fortunate, not a choice. You worked two jobs to buy a home, that was an opportunity. There's people who make the same 'choice' to work hard, but don't get that same opportunity. We live in a tough world now with buying being off the table for a lot of young people. There are some who worked "really hard" in school but it doesn't always work out for a variety of reasons. You got your home in time, and now have a disability which I'm sorry about. However, not everybody has the choice that you say they do.

Forgot to say, dh and I also bought our own home, we made the 'choice' to save, which we were lucky enough to be able to do. We had the opportunity to buy the house, before it became a lot more difficult to do so. We had no support from family, and nowhere to stay and are fortunate that we had a council flat when we needed it, at a time he was in debt because of his turbulent childhood. I had to university, and worked hard, we both worked hard. What is choice, without opportunity?

Any new tenancies would be written with a contract which states periods of review, criteria to continue the tenancy etc.
I agree that current tenancies unfortunately couldnt be changed, as probably wouldn't be legal, but over time gradually there wouod be a shift to a new needs based system

Social housing was initially about affordable housing for the working class. But as the stock was sold particularly in the better areas, it can only house families with a much lower income now.

My DGPs moved into a brand new social housing home just after the war. Most neighbours worked. I lived in social housing and I worked full time. Many people thought my home was really cheap to rent.

It's still cheaper than privately rented homes and it is more secure.

So you admit that people dont have a choice over fire safety (and YES you have just admitted that because YOU have just mentioned my door and yet ive also been told that Grenfell has nothing to do with it while also its admitted that i have no choice over fire safety. The gaslighting is off the charts

Any tenant, whether private or social doesn't have choice over these things. You only get that choice if you chose to buy - and yes that is a choice - DH and I worked 2 jobs each and lived in his parents garage to earn enough to buy a do'er upper. I have friends who were forced to leave school at 16 due to abuse at home, sofa surfed, got very few gcse's and now own very nice homes.

Choice isn't an entitlement in many things in life, it's usually earnt. As I tell my girls, working really hard at school will give you more choice over what job you can get, where you can live, what you can buy.

My kitchen is an absolute mess, I can't afford to buy any new kitchen right now as I made a choice to reduce my hours at work to be able to do pick ups and drop offs for my girls, and to help me manage my disability which leaves me tired and in pain.

OK so how would you get tenants to leave Im really interested in how this would go.

What the hell do trans people have to do with this?!? Your missing the point, yes people need there “safe front door” but by being allowed to keep that same front door forever when your circumstances have changed stops anyone else from getting there’s.

Lack of choice and autonomy only seems to count on this site when its trans issues!!!!!
Maybe we should have a social housing version of The Handmaids Tale. Its lack of choice that mean tenants cant refuse things even if they are defective (like my new "fire safe" front door that ive been forced to have) Of course its all connected.

I got social housing because I was a disabled single parent and nobody would rent to me… my current place is lovely (new build, very family oriented village setting) but it’s only because of meeting my now husband that I’m in a position to buy.

My DH is disabled. Neither he nor i think that someone should be kicked out of a bungalow so that we can have it.

I don’t think you can compare Grenfell to people feeling entitled to stay in a four bedroom council house that was built to home a family just because they are allowed. Nice try though.

how lucky for uou.

scenarios like this are why people have a problem.

I have a crappy house because it was all I could afford and even then I have a huge mortgage

I'd love to have been given a cheap rental without having to worry about repairs and upkeep and then move on to an easy purchase

Absolutely agree. I work with disabled children, and have mums carrying teenagers up the stairs on their backs as they can't get a council house and stuck in an upper floor flat. Children in constant pain, unable to have essential surgery and likely to die because they can't have it until appropriately housed.
I'm sure many will say 'well that's not my problem, I'm not moving, they should just build more'. But there is limited money, limited available space for building, and vunerable children are loosing out because people won't move, because they are 'entitled' to stay.

Im not the one advocating for tenants having even less choice

THIS!!!!

But talking about it afterwards in the context that tenants have been treated even worse since and are looked down on is the disgusting thing.
Still it makes a change from "we musnt make it political"

It was certainly a disgusting event.