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To think that there is a misunderstanding about social housing.

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Bitchesbelike · 06/05/2025 21:50

On social media, lots of people assume that people in social / council housing are getting a free house and don’t work.

i grew up in social housing: my dad worked from age 15 to 65.

my brothers have worked since they were 16 and both live in social housing.

its not “free housing”: it’s rented, affordable accommodation.

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JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 20:26

User79853257976 · 11/05/2025 20:04

Care workers aren’t paid enough, but you really seem to have something against people with children.

Loose translation "im allowed to talk about "subsidised" housing but dont you dare talk about subsidised childcare"

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 20:12

User79853257976 · 11/05/2025 19:57

You seem happy to just wallow in you flat if you think that social housing is the only option.

Well my higest paid job was in the sex industry Talked to loads of men Could even have been the husbands of some MNers

User79853257976 · 11/05/2025 20:10

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 20:08

And you have something against SH tenants If you cant take it dont dish it out

No I really don’t; I have only said that lifetime tenancies reduce the social housing market and lead to those really in need not having suitable housing and people who now earn well still getting the support they once needed. Nothing wrong with that.

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 20:08

User79853257976 · 11/05/2025 20:04

Care workers aren’t paid enough, but you really seem to have something against people with children.

And you have something against SH tenants If you cant take it dont dish it out

Dreammhaus · 11/05/2025 20:06

Youagain2025 · 11/05/2025 12:37

I'm really confused . Why is mortgage/house buyers and renting from social housing being compared to to each other surely they are completely different.

I'm seeing comments about home owners having to pay for their own repairs. But social housing tenants don't have to . Surely home owners and people with mortgage knew this before buying the house?

A lot of people have the option of buying or renting privately- buying is better if you can afford it as you get a return on your investment. Lots of people who buy though would probably welcome a secure, affordable tenancy which included repairs; especially as now the expectation is that you'll sell your home in old age if you require care so it might not be an investment which benefits your children.

User79853257976 · 11/05/2025 20:04

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 20:03

I used to work in care Cheers for that though Its come in handy for another thread

Care workers aren’t paid enough, but you really seem to have something against people with children.

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 20:03

User79853257976 · 11/05/2025 20:01

And you chose to be poor.

I used to work in care Cheers for that though Its come in handy for another thread

User79853257976 · 11/05/2025 20:01

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 14:49

Dont need to worry about school

YOU CHOSE TO HAVE KIDS!!!!!

And you chose to be poor.

User79853257976 · 11/05/2025 20:00

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 14:42

And you knew you would have to pay for your own repairs before buying. Right?

You act like we should all have limited our salaries so we could have social housing. Most of us had a choice between private rent or mortgage as we have never been eligible for social housing, which is fair enough.

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 19:59

User79853257976 · 11/05/2025 19:57

You seem happy to just wallow in you flat if you think that social housing is the only option.

oh FUCK OFF and book your subsidised childcare

User79853257976 · 11/05/2025 19:57

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 14:30

Really? I thought we were all for kicking tenants OUT of social housing when they progress in employment. Because there is no way i would be able to afford a house here no matter what job i got. So the only option would still be social housing And you only get bigger social housinf IF YOU HAVE KIDS So make your mind up.

You seem happy to just wallow in you flat if you think that social housing is the only option.

Youagain2025 · 11/05/2025 18:35

Digdongdoo · 11/05/2025 16:44

Social housing tenants are absolved of any personal responsibility and homeowners must be grateful for enormous mortgages and a lifetime of maintenance bills. Ti's the mumsnet way.

I don't get it people choose to buy a house and have a mortgage. One day it will be all theirs.

Social housing and private renters get repairs done via the landlord because that's how it is with renting regardless weather you rent private sector or social housing.

Depending on the landlord private rent can come fully furnished. Or just carpets. Or just white goods. Or nothing at all.

But social housing 9 times out of 10 it comes with absolutely nothing . They even strip the walls back , All the wallpaper is removed all paint is removed. No carpets/flooring.

I'm not saying theses things should be supplied. I'm just saying people in social housing don't have everything handed to them.

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 11/05/2025 18:28

So many of these posts are almost dripping with jealousy …

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 16:50

Digdongdoo · 11/05/2025 16:44

Social housing tenants are absolved of any personal responsibility and homeowners must be grateful for enormous mortgages and a lifetime of maintenance bills. Ti's the mumsnet way.

the only ones im seeing absolved of any responsiblity are Kensington and Chelsea council and the TMO. Unless you can name the person who has been charged/sitting in prison for Grenfell

Bushmillsbabe · 11/05/2025 16:47

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 14:48

Im in North Essex I live in a flat with my disabled 75 year old husband My dad died seven months ago so my elderly mum is on her own Am i supposed to move to another part of the country and let my one sibling deal with it all? Then have people on here moaning about their taxes being put up to pay for social care cos us "lazy family members" cant travel 200 miles to care for elderly relatives. I see you

I know that situation all too well. My Dad has dementia and my mum also disabled. They will pay for carers themselves, not social care.

My brother couldnt afford to live where he was in London once he adopted 2 children, so he moved to a cheaper area, so yes, it will be on me.

Digdongdoo · 11/05/2025 16:44

Bushmillsbabe · 11/05/2025 16:38

The person stated that they couldn't afford to private rent in their area, so I queried whether they would be able to afford private rent in a different area. As many people move to be able to afford to buy or privately rent if they can't afford their current area

Social housing tenants are absolved of any personal responsibility and homeowners must be grateful for enormous mortgages and a lifetime of maintenance bills. Ti's the mumsnet way.

Bushmillsbabe · 11/05/2025 16:43

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 14:49

Dont need to worry about school

YOU CHOSE TO HAVE KIDS!!!!!

Yes I did, I'm not quite sure how that is relevant? We chose to have them, and we support them fully despite both DH and I having a disability.

Bushmillsbabe · 11/05/2025 16:41

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 14:56

Its in our tenancy agreement that we cant touch certain things when they go wrong like the boiler. That has to be fixed by whatever cowboy they choose to send a professional
Or would you rather tenants started tinkering with it and caused an explosion

I wasn't referring to maintenance, I was referring to people moving into council properties and moaning there is no flooring or white goods or furniture.

Bushmillsbabe · 11/05/2025 16:38

Youagain2025 · 11/05/2025 16:14

It's a bit different with social housing. If a bigger property is needed. Children of opposite sex can share until they are 10. So that's 10 years before they can even go on the list for over crowding. Once your on it depending on the area it can take many years.

They can't just move to a cheaper area because other councils do not have a duty to house them.

The only way to get to another area is through a house swap. Or to give up social housing. And privately rent. Which then puts them at risk of eviction in the future. Where they will likely end up homless in temporary accommodation for years.

The person stated that they couldn't afford to private rent in their area, so I queried whether they would be able to afford private rent in a different area. As many people move to be able to afford to buy or privately rent if they can't afford their current area

Youagain2025 · 11/05/2025 16:14

Bushmillsbabe · 11/05/2025 14:43

When those who own houses which are too small to meet their needs but can't afford to buy a larger property ask for advice in here, they are advised to move to a cheaper area.
If you can't afford to live where you live, whether thats buying or renting, you move to an area which you can afford to live in. Yes, that may mean moving jobs, school etc, but that's what we had to do.

So if you can't afford a place to live where you are now, 'no matter what job you do' I presume you must live in a very expensive area?

It's a bit different with social housing. If a bigger property is needed. Children of opposite sex can share until they are 10. So that's 10 years before they can even go on the list for over crowding. Once your on it depending on the area it can take many years.

They can't just move to a cheaper area because other councils do not have a duty to house them.

The only way to get to another area is through a house swap. Or to give up social housing. And privately rent. Which then puts them at risk of eviction in the future. Where they will likely end up homless in temporary accommodation for years.

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 14:56

Bushmillsbabe · 11/05/2025 14:53

Yes, thats what i said. I knew i had to pay for it, and thats what i do. I dont moan about it, or ask for someone else to pay for it.

Its in our tenancy agreement that we cant touch certain things when they go wrong like the boiler. That has to be fixed by whatever cowboy they choose to send a professional
Or would you rather tenants started tinkering with it and caused an explosion

Bushmillsbabe · 11/05/2025 14:53

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 14:42

And you knew you would have to pay for your own repairs before buying. Right?

Yes, thats what i said. I knew i had to pay for it, and thats what i do. I dont moan about it, or ask for someone else to pay for it.

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 14:49

Bushmillsbabe · 11/05/2025 14:43

When those who own houses which are too small to meet their needs but can't afford to buy a larger property ask for advice in here, they are advised to move to a cheaper area.
If you can't afford to live where you live, whether thats buying or renting, you move to an area which you can afford to live in. Yes, that may mean moving jobs, school etc, but that's what we had to do.

So if you can't afford a place to live where you are now, 'no matter what job you do' I presume you must live in a very expensive area?

Dont need to worry about school

YOU CHOSE TO HAVE KIDS!!!!!

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 14:48

Bushmillsbabe · 11/05/2025 14:43

When those who own houses which are too small to meet their needs but can't afford to buy a larger property ask for advice in here, they are advised to move to a cheaper area.
If you can't afford to live where you live, whether thats buying or renting, you move to an area which you can afford to live in. Yes, that may mean moving jobs, school etc, but that's what we had to do.

So if you can't afford a place to live where you are now, 'no matter what job you do' I presume you must live in a very expensive area?

Im in North Essex I live in a flat with my disabled 75 year old husband My dad died seven months ago so my elderly mum is on her own Am i supposed to move to another part of the country and let my one sibling deal with it all? Then have people on here moaning about their taxes being put up to pay for social care cos us "lazy family members" cant travel 200 miles to care for elderly relatives. I see you

Bushmillsbabe · 11/05/2025 14:43

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 14:30

Really? I thought we were all for kicking tenants OUT of social housing when they progress in employment. Because there is no way i would be able to afford a house here no matter what job i got. So the only option would still be social housing And you only get bigger social housinf IF YOU HAVE KIDS So make your mind up.

When those who own houses which are too small to meet their needs but can't afford to buy a larger property ask for advice in here, they are advised to move to a cheaper area.
If you can't afford to live where you live, whether thats buying or renting, you move to an area which you can afford to live in. Yes, that may mean moving jobs, school etc, but that's what we had to do.

So if you can't afford a place to live where you are now, 'no matter what job you do' I presume you must live in a very expensive area?