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To think that there is a misunderstanding about social housing.

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Bitchesbelike · 06/05/2025 21:50

On social media, lots of people assume that people in social / council housing are getting a free house and don’t work.

i grew up in social housing: my dad worked from age 15 to 65.

my brothers have worked since they were 16 and both live in social housing.

its not “free housing”: it’s rented, affordable accommodation.

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User46576 · 12/05/2025 19:11

Grammarnut · 12/05/2025 18:04

The rent isn't intended to make a profit over and above maintenance costs etc. unlike private renting, which is. That's one reason social housing is cheaper. But people living in social or affordable housing are paying a proper rent and will be people in jobs that do not pay very well but which we need, e.g. teachers, police, nurses etc.
I think a better solution would be to pay those workers more - but hey ho!

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Social housing is subsidized by the taxpayer so it can be offered at below market rates. Councils and housing associations are often very bad at building and maintaining housing at a reasonable cost so even though the taxpayer is paying they are sometimes rented at the same amount as private rental property

XenoBitch · 12/05/2025 18:25

CoffeecakeSuncream · 12/05/2025 18:18

If this is fhe case than that is terrible, unless the man has learning difficulties? He could have been added on to his parents tendency years ago, if he has been there for such a long time.

Yes, it says he has learning difficulties. He was living elsewhere but moved in with his mum. He was not named on her tenancy.

CoffeecakeSuncream · 12/05/2025 18:18

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 18:01

Reads more like it's unusable because he locked it up and left it for years to me...
But who knows. It's the Metro.

If this is fhe case than that is terrible, unless the man has learning difficulties? He could have been added on to his parents tendency years ago, if he has been there for such a long time.

Grammarnut · 12/05/2025 18:04

Toetouchingtitties · 06/05/2025 22:08

I absolutely think social housing should exist and focused on those that need the help the most. However to say it’s not subsidised is incorrect. A lot of housing associations rely on other income streams to be able to afford to offer social housing at a reduced rate vs the local rental market. So while it isn’t ‘free’ housing, the true cost isn’t always fully covered by the renter.

The rent isn't intended to make a profit over and above maintenance costs etc. unlike private renting, which is. That's one reason social housing is cheaper. But people living in social or affordable housing are paying a proper rent and will be people in jobs that do not pay very well but which we need, e.g. teachers, police, nurses etc.
I think a better solution would be to pay those workers more - but hey ho!

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 18:01

CoffeecakeSuncream · 12/05/2025 17:55

It sounds like the locked up flat may be that way due to unhabitable reasons? Maybe he moved back in with his parents in the mean time, and decided to stay there, and let go of the other one which hadn't been fixed yet? Can't they sort that other one out, and let him stay here? Not sure why it is still in his name, maybe it all happened close together. There is not enough context at all in this article.

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Reads more like it's unusable because he locked it up and left it for years to me...
But who knows. It's the Metro.

CoffeecakeSuncream · 12/05/2025 17:55

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 16:57

So he's got two flats currently? Too right they aren't obliged to house him. He's got another house.

It sounds like the locked up flat may be that way due to unhabitable reasons? Maybe he moved back in with his parents in the mean time, and decided to stay there, and let go of the other one which hadn't been fixed yet? Can't they sort that other one out, and let him stay here? Not sure why it is still in his name, maybe it all happened close together. There is not enough context at all in this article.

XenoBitch · 12/05/2025 17:28

Bushmillsbabe · 12/05/2025 17:18

So theoretically, someone could put their adult child on their tenancy, and pass it to them? And then them to their child once an adult and so on? So the property/tenancy never becomes available for someone else?

So in some ways better than owning a house - as if you own one they can force you to sell it to pay for care home fees?
But if initial tenant goes into a care home,their adult child can take on the tenancy and still live there? And the council will pay their care home fees as they don't have an asset to sell?

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No, they need to have been living there for several years. And it can only be passed on once. Usually it is passed between spouses, but if an adult child lives with a single parent then it will be passed to them.

My parents are in a council house. If my dad dies, my mum inherits the tenancy, and vice versa. I could live with them, but when they are both gone, I wont be able to stay there.

Youagain2025 · 12/05/2025 17:24

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 16:57

So he's got two flats currently? Too right they aren't obliged to house him. He's got another house.

It's not clear he says its all locked up. Does that mean he lost the key , does it mean it's all boarded up and locked by the council.

Bushmillsbabe · 12/05/2025 17:18

XenoBitch · 12/05/2025 16:37

They have to already be on the tenancy, and living there too.

So theoretically, someone could put their adult child on their tenancy, and pass it to them? And then them to their child once an adult and so on? So the property/tenancy never becomes available for someone else?

So in some ways better than owning a house - as if you own one they can force you to sell it to pay for care home fees?
But if initial tenant goes into a care home,their adult child can take on the tenancy and still live there? And the council will pay their care home fees as they don't have an asset to sell?

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 16:57

So he's got two flats currently? Too right they aren't obliged to house him. He's got another house.

XenoBitch · 12/05/2025 16:37

Bushmillsbabe · 12/05/2025 16:25

I did not know this no, so thank you

But you hear of people passing their property/tenancy down to their children, like a type of inheritance? How does that work if it's not a specific property?

They have to already be on the tenancy, and living there too.

CoffeecakeSuncream · 12/05/2025 16:36

Bushmillsbabe · 12/05/2025 16:25

I did not know this no, so thank you

But you hear of people passing their property/tenancy down to their children, like a type of inheritance? How does that work if it's not a specific property?

Is it not hush hush? Surely they'd need to apply for it like anybody else? Unless, they're already on the tenancy?

Bushmillsbabe · 12/05/2025 16:34

JenniferBooth · 12/05/2025 15:08

Oh so you dont get to choose which company or contractor fits your bathroom or kitchen then. Did the Government make this law that home owners cant choose which contractors or company they use or is it a prerequisite from the buiding society or bank when you take out the mortgage.

Nope, but for any structural work we have to pay the council to decide if they will allow it, and then pay their building control team to check the work is done to their standard, after paying for the work to be done initially and if it's not, we have to then pay again for the builder to make the required changes and pay again for council building control to check it. So the council is also dictating to us to an extent what we can and cannot do with our properties, and we have the added pleasure of paying for them to do this.

And yes, if we don't pay this it can invalidate our mortgage.

FedupofArsenalgame · 12/05/2025 16:34

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 12/05/2025 15:28

With the kitchen re fit in my first housing association house we were given samples to choose from

flooring
cupboard door finish
handles

As was my friend. Much lower quality than what she already had

Bushmillsbabe · 12/05/2025 16:25

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 12/05/2025 13:43

The ‘lifetime tenancy’ IS with the tenant……not the bricks and mortar

do people not know this?

I did not know this no, so thank you

But you hear of people passing their property/tenancy down to their children, like a type of inheritance? How does that work if it's not a specific property?

JenniferBooth · 12/05/2025 15:55

Maverickess · 12/05/2025 15:40

My HA insists a tenant is present when work is done.
I'd quite happily leave a key or have a key safe but they have refused these options in the past when it's things like gas servicing and when I have needed repairs like a tap for example.
The roof was done just after I moved in as part of the maintenance in general and I was told this would happen, and I didn't need to be in apart from the first day for the asbestos survey, when's the first day? 2 month window. But you have to be in, but we'll not be able to tell you when to be in.

I'm not sure if it would be different for something like a kitchen or bathroom refit with it being a much longer job.

Friend of mine had a three day window for a fire safety appointment Yet these HAs claim that they want working tenants

JenniferBooth · 12/05/2025 15:50

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 15:43

It wasn't only sh tenants in Greenfell and it isn't only sh tenants who remain affected by cladding.

I realise that But the others affected by cladding arent being told that they should be grateful are they.

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 15:43

JenniferBooth · 12/05/2025 15:32

In the context of the Grenfell Tower fire, there were reports of residents being told, or feeling they should be, grateful for services provided by the Tenant Management Organisation (TMO). This was perceived as a dismissive attitude towards residents' legitimate concerns about safety, particularly regarding the fire hazards of the cladding and other aspects of the building. The TMO's actions were criticized for ignoring these concerns and creating a power imbalance where residents were not treated with respect

Apparently its sick for me to raise this on a thread where SH tenants are told they should be grateful

It wasn't only sh tenants in Greenfell and it isn't only sh tenants who remain affected by cladding.

Maverickess · 12/05/2025 15:40

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 14:15

Why does anyone need to take two weeks off work for a kitchen fitter? Nobody, homeowner or otherwise does that. You want the choices that come with home ownership, you'll have to pay for it yourself. Can't have it all ways.

My HA insists a tenant is present when work is done.
I'd quite happily leave a key or have a key safe but they have refused these options in the past when it's things like gas servicing and when I have needed repairs like a tap for example.
The roof was done just after I moved in as part of the maintenance in general and I was told this would happen, and I didn't need to be in apart from the first day for the asbestos survey, when's the first day? 2 month window. But you have to be in, but we'll not be able to tell you when to be in.

I'm not sure if it would be different for something like a kitchen or bathroom refit with it being a much longer job.

CoffeecakeSuncream · 12/05/2025 15:34

No need for that, come on keep it civil. We are all entitled to our own opinion, but it shouldn't cross a line. @Dreammhaus

JenniferBooth · 12/05/2025 15:32

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In the context of the Grenfell Tower fire, there were reports of residents being told, or feeling they should be, grateful for services provided by the Tenant Management Organisation (TMO). This was perceived as a dismissive attitude towards residents' legitimate concerns about safety, particularly regarding the fire hazards of the cladding and other aspects of the building. The TMO's actions were criticized for ignoring these concerns and creating a power imbalance where residents were not treated with respect

Apparently its sick for me to raise this on a thread where SH tenants are told they should be grateful

JenniferBooth · 12/05/2025 15:29

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 15:25

Yes. Like they always do. It's not unique to sh

She means darting in and out of homes on the same estate.

Dreammhaus · 12/05/2025 15:29

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YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 12/05/2025 15:28

With the kitchen re fit in my first housing association house we were given samples to choose from

flooring
cupboard door finish
handles