Low UPF diet - to think the experts weren’t lying?

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Yeah, better keep on eating shit then.

You really are a comedian 😂

Has your weight fluctuated a lot in your life by any chance? As in, have you lost and gained weight a lot?

Months, I think.
I used to feel a bit "hungover" when I ate UP bread.

My mum and her brother were born after the war but when rationing was still a thing. Both their parents were overweight and both of them were overweight. In pictures when they were children and teens they were, and remained so in adulthood. I doubt they were living off upfs in the 1950s and 60s. And my grandma smoked 60/day so she literally blew the theory that smoking keeps you thin, out of the window, as well.

Growing up in the 1980s/90s we had shop bought bread but my mum was a very competent cook and very judgy and scornful of people who didn't make their own gravy/pastry/scones/cakes/quiches/sauces etc. She would say she was "naughty" if she ate eg a penguin biscuit but wouldn't think twice about having a wedge of home made cake at a coffee morning.
Both her and her brother would likely have qualified for WLI if they had lived that long, but they definitely got fat while barely touching a upf.

But the upf (or lack of) obsession is just the current way for some people to feel superior to others...it's particularly popular amongst the middle classes as a way to differentiate between themselves and the plebs. It's really quite amusing to watch. The nutritional equivalent of having a clean front step.

My absolute favourite food is tuna sashimi, a case in point. Apparently protein is filling. I think I could eat a whole tuna of it.

With such willpower and common sense I'm surprised you were ever overweight like we lesser mortals.

Unfortunately my appetite and how full I feel has always been an unreliable narrator. And with lovely fresh food I am tempted to eat even more and continue the pleasant sensation.

Well that's my point

You have to portion control. You couldn't in theory eat endless amounts of non upf foods and stay slim. So it's clearly not the entire story is it?

Your post is very amusing though.... imagine your self worth being so tied up in your eating habits...

The thing with eating non UPFS is that your diet has more fibre. The fats in the diet are a greater mix of nono & saturated fats. So you will eat less because you are fuller for longer and your body will digest the fats at different rates - basically as you use it. Less need for storage.

Also, a lot of UPFS (the chemicals in the small print) are highly addictive and you will digest the food quickly. Just for that reason alone, you will eat a lot more than you naturally do.

But granted, if you are greedy and don't listen to your body, you'll always be fat.
For others who thake this seriously, it's a way of re educating our bodies towards a healthier relationship with food.

Yes, but then there is also the temptation to nibble as you go, and have a couple of glasses of red as well.

That's true. And zero calories when you throw it in the bin.

There are apps or scales which you can use to easily tell you how many calories are in the cake you are making though.

Also, if you are responsible for making the bread, the roast dinner and the lasagne, that will regulate the amount you eat too. It's more effort, so you only do it when you really need to eat, you don't eat becuase you're bored or miserable in the same way that we head for processed goodies.

Homemade white bread is still empty calories though.

I put on half a stone as a student in France eating a three course meal at lunch time and then because I was used to eating an evening meal and only a light lunch I was starving again at 6pm. Then I'd practically eat my own bodyweight in fresh bread and butter. Fresh baguettes aren't UPF but they don't fill me up at all as there is hardly any fibre. It isn't all about about fresh v convenience.

And I really missed Hovis Wholemeal Granary. 😅

Agree but it easier to monitor the calories. If I make a homemade cake...I have no idea how many calories are in it

Shop bought cakes are a waste of calories though I agree. They taste so artificial.

Wasn't trying to be hilarious in any way.

You however are very rude...whether you know it or not.

You might do...you might not. But then it's about portion control.... whether you are eating frozen ready meals or homemade meals, you still have to watch the amount you eat. The idea that as long as you avoid upfs, you'll be slim regardless of amounts you eat, is ridiculous.

Yes, it is laughable. I've never eaten loads of UPFs and haven't been normal BMI since I had kids. I was brought up on 1980s convenience food and wasn't fat then. Not that I am recommending eating loads of empty calories but how much you eat is always the absolute key.

Eating loads of protein and James Smith calculators are such a joke for me, it makes me gain weight eating that much.

But calories are calories...it's easy to exceed your daily calorie needs with both upf and non upf foods

... and then you'll eat less for lunch, less cake and less lasagne- not sure why you'd eat 2 cooked meals per day?
I'd just have more bread & butter 😋

Fat makes you fat if you eat more than you need. Unfortunately I can only eat about 1400 calories a day if I want to lose weight, whatever food makes up the calories and however much exercise I do.