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Council houses owning brand new cars?

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TheCluelessMum · 06/05/2025 20:52

I’m writing this post with the hopes of being educated, not slandered

however I completely appreciate I may be just completely shot down for asking this.

i live on a new build estate, 12 houses at the start of the estate are council houses. I don’t know this because I’m a snob, I know this because it’s clearly marked on plans when you buy those houses.

i see so much stuff online about how the UK benefits system is failing people, the higher rise of food banks. It’s absolutely abhorrent people are in this situation.

however, when entering my estate today I noticed that each and every single council house had a car newer that a 20 plate. Mercedes, Audi’s, BMW’s even range rovers.. there was not a single house out of the 12 which had an older than 20 plate car.

I am now confused as to why this is the case? Everyone I know (including those receiving benefits) continually speaks about how hard the cost of living is.

so could someone please answer how/why those in what we would presume lower income families, are able to afford such lavish cars.

OP posts:
XenoBitch · 06/05/2025 21:55

Macaroni46 · 06/05/2025 21:48

Because she doesn’t need it anymore. Make space for someone who does need it.

If that was the case, then the council would have kicked her out ages ago. They didn't. If you have a council house, then if you pay the rent and behave yourself, you can be there for life.
Life time tenancy should be the norm,. None of this being at the mercy of someone who could kick you out after a year.

Working people on UC are at the mercy of the DWP stopping their top ups during the months where they have 2 pay days instead of 1. They get £0 UC for those months. Imagine a similar thing with housing. You earn too much one month... get evicted.

ThisOpenMauveLurker · 06/05/2025 21:55

Blongie · 06/05/2025 21:48

Literally this

Wow. Madness. Country is screwed.

only people doing well at the moment are the people creaming benefits (DLA, PIP etc etc) or the very top.

middle earners might as well not bother.

Ok I’ll bite.

Ex NHS nurse in my 50s.

Two adult children (father fucked off with old flame when Friends Reunited was a thing) so long term sole earner.

Got MS at 45,can’t work, have tried (a lot).

Two failed attempts at claiming PIP. So I live on £1300 per month (universal credit inc LCWRA and housing benefit).

Pay £720 per 4’week period for one bed HA flat in ancient leaky, draughty city townhouse. £85/month water (historic bldg not allowed water meter).

is that “creaming enough benefits” for your satisfaction?

WildflowerConstellations · 06/05/2025 21:55

Slightyamusedandsilly · 06/05/2025 21:42

But surely the new council houses are for new tenants (because unless I'm mistaken, you don't get to upgrade from your existing home to a better council home)? In which case, they must have been in need to be able to get to the top of the list?

No, not necessarily. For example, if households were decanted from where they used to live in order to build the new build, they might be offered a flat in the new build. Also, under occupiers might be offered a smaller new build as an incentive to move and free up a larger property for a household who need more bedrooms.

Cyclingmummy1 · 06/05/2025 21:54

Macaroni46 · 06/05/2025 21:33

Why is this allowed? Surely if they’re now earning well they no longer need a council house and should move on, so that a family who really needs it can have it!

We have this time and time again.

Can you define 'need' please?

Where will the family who are evicted live now that they no longer 'need' their home?

I would prefer to have families paying full rent in social housing. That's what it was meant for. Working families.

ERthree · 06/05/2025 21:53

Notashamed13 · 06/05/2025 21:08

You can tell all the council houses down or road because they all had new roofing done a year ago......#I'm not jealous lol.....I wish I could get a council house!..... council are the landlords but ironically enough our mortgage is cheaper than council rent....... nice cars could be anything from only fans, loans, credit, parents or disability.......

Only fans ! have you ever thought that maybe the utter scummy council house dwellers may actually work and save their hard earned cash ! Not everyone living in LA or housing association property relies on benefits. I know a nurse that lives in one , 2 managers that have Uni degree's and a member of the lifeboat crew and that is just on one street. All of them have cars that are less than 3 years old and one of them had the audacity to crawl out of the house and go to China last year.

Beeloux · 06/05/2025 21:52

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 06/05/2025 21:46

No new build estates near you?

Only one but very small. I’ve heard even in band A the waiting list can be years around here. I gave up a long time ago and privately rent instead.

finallyskinny · 06/05/2025 21:52

Beeloux · 06/05/2025 21:46

I think council housing should be for those in need of it. I also don’t believe in right to buy.

There is hardly any social housing left in my town, as many people have bought their council houses and sold them on or rent them out privately at extortionate prices.

I have a council house, I had my own mortgage at one point but due to domestic violence I had to give up everything and relocate. lost the house so my credit rating was shit (couldn't work while in a refuge as the rent is extortionate every week) there for i couldn't private rent as wouldn't pass the credit check. yes I work and yes, i have a 74 plate car, would you rather me and my children live on the streets?

JenniferBooth · 06/05/2025 21:52

MN Social housing should only be for the most needy and desperate
Also MN Im not buying a house near that social housing estate Its a right ghetto

Arran2024 · 06/05/2025 21:51

Plmnki · 06/05/2025 21:19

If you didn’t have a council house, them someone who is really desperate could have it. You don’t sound like you need handouts with your vales and your fancy car and your PT. You should be paying market rent like anyone else say a doctor or police officer surely?

I live in sw London. My sister in law works in Tesco. No way could she buy anything round here on her salary. Social housing allows people who were born here and work here to live here.

Katemax82 · 06/05/2025 21:50

TeaAndTattoos · 06/05/2025 20:56

They could be on finance or they are Motability cars.

Very possibly motability cars, they're always built to order

HamieandHave · 06/05/2025 21:50

Blongie · 06/05/2025 21:48

Literally this

Wow. Madness. Country is screwed.

only people doing well at the moment are the people creaming benefits (DLA, PIP etc etc) or the very top.

middle earners might as well not bother.

I get disability benefits and I am absolutely not doing fucking well.

RosesAndHellebores · 06/05/2025 21:49

When I was a little girl, the council houses in our village were for ordinary working people. People who worked in shops, on the bins, drove buses, delivered letters, porters, etc. They were brick built and well kept. They should never have been sold off.

Occasionally, I cut through a council estate when I visit some friends (I know the back route and avoid the lights). I don't see very many cars newer than five or seven years old there. The people I see on that road do not look like they spend much on themselves.

Glitchymn1 · 06/05/2025 21:49

Firstly you have to have points and bid. If it’s a full time, working couple or single person you’d have zero chance around here. Zero.
You need lots of children, medical conditions to get points to bid. If you are single under 35, you’ll be lucky to get a hostel. Over 55 you might get a flat if you’re sick enough.

Doesn’t matter if it’s council or Housing Association, you need points, lots of them. Full time workers would get told to private rent.

Are there white vans on the driveway too?
Not everyone on benefit struggles, some do, some don’t. Could be on credit. Could be PIP. There are generally newer cars on the road these days compared to years ago.

Blongie · 06/05/2025 21:48

Numberfish · 06/05/2025 21:42

So why live in a house that’s needed for people without such a high income?

Literally this

Wow. Madness. Country is screwed.

only people doing well at the moment are the people creaming benefits (DLA, PIP etc etc) or the very top.

middle earners might as well not bother.

Beeloux · 06/05/2025 21:48

HamieandHave · 06/05/2025 21:38

Where are the people on benefits getting cash to buy brand new flash cars?

They’re fiddling it. Many pretend to be single mothers but have a partner living with them earning cash in hand. See it happen all the time around here.

Macaroni46 · 06/05/2025 21:48

WorthyOtter · 06/05/2025 21:45

Why not? That's their home. Who knows what her situation was when she first moved in, why should she now have to leave her home cos she's earning more money?

Because she doesn’t need it anymore. Make space for someone who does need it.

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 06/05/2025 21:46

Beeloux · 06/05/2025 21:46

I think council housing should be for those in need of it. I also don’t believe in right to buy.

There is hardly any social housing left in my town, as many people have bought their council houses and sold them on or rent them out privately at extortionate prices.

No new build estates near you?

Beeloux · 06/05/2025 21:46

I think council housing should be for those in need of it. I also don’t believe in right to buy.

There is hardly any social housing left in my town, as many people have bought their council houses and sold them on or rent them out privately at extortionate prices.

Arran2024 · 06/05/2025 21:45

CurlySueAndBillToo · 06/05/2025 21:17

And usually a very expensive down payment too. My last car was a people carrier because I needed a big boot to store my electric wheelchair (which I also had to purchase myself). For the car plus the adaptions needed like the hoist to lift the wheelchair etc it was over £4000. Despite living the high life on benefits I had to borrow the money for it from family. I hate this narrative about disabled people driving around in range rovers when so many of us are struggling to get a car that meets our needs and our finances.

We have a motability car too as my daughter has epilepsy. I'd rather she didn't have epilepsy. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/mar/24/motability-disability-scheme-uk-taxpayers-government

Motability: is it true that the disability scheme is taking UK taxpayers for a ride?

Understanding the rightwing backlash over the government scheme helping people with serious disabilities get a car

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/mar/24/motability-disability-scheme-uk-taxpayers-government

WorthyOtter · 06/05/2025 21:45

Numberfish · 06/05/2025 21:42

So why live in a house that’s needed for people without such a high income?

Why not? That's their home. Who knows what her situation was when she first moved in, why should she now have to leave her home cos she's earning more money?

Doggymummar · 06/05/2025 21:44

Social housing is for incomes of upto £60k in our authority so could be a teacher firefighter police officer loads of professions tbh,

Numberfish · 06/05/2025 21:42

YourElatedLimeShark · 06/05/2025 20:58

I live in a council house. And I work so hard on my own business. My kids have brand new iPhones. I have a gorgeous 67 plate fancy car and have another vehicle too. We eat amazing food. Eat out often. Have nice clothes. Designer sunglasses. I vape. I don’t drink. I go the gym and have a PT. My kids go to multiple clubs almost every day of the week. I have a 65 inch TV on my wall. I have well cared for pets.

May be these guys are the same? Not everyone in a council house is poor etc. many work. And work bloody hard.

So why live in a house that’s needed for people without such a high income?

Slightyamusedandsilly · 06/05/2025 21:42

But surely the new council houses are for new tenants (because unless I'm mistaken, you don't get to upgrade from your existing home to a better council home)? In which case, they must have been in need to be able to get to the top of the list?

InfoSecInTheCity · 06/05/2025 21:41

Flamingopingo · 06/05/2025 21:31

Paying outright for a second hand car might be a cost they can't afford. It's a chunk of money and not everybody has the means to save. Getting a new car with weekly/monthly payments may better suit their budget. Also you're less likely to have the big maintenance costs of an older car.

Came on to say this. I don’t like debt, so I buy cars outright with my savings, but if my only choice was to pay monthly then I may as well lease a nice car rather than buy an old car with a loan.

Digdongdoo · 06/05/2025 21:41

There was a thread on this recently...
Affordable rent = disposable income. It's not rocket science.