Council houses owning brand new cars?

Wrong again.

What do you mean?

ETA I see you've already refused/been unable to explain. So it looks like you're saying Grenfell was deserved.

Worked ok in the UK before the housing act in 1988 deregulated the market. Not perfect but better than the wild west we have now.

I guess you're 'pro bennies" (assuming you're talking about benefits and not drug addiction) since you've got a toilet paper list of what you've apparently already claimed!

Local council near me are buying private homes to rent out, such is the cost of housing to the council.

The policy of not allowing councils to build council houses, with the money obtained from selling council houses, has, like many Tory policies proved to be an utter failure.

Don't hold your breath. PIP is hard to claim, being eligible for the enhanced components of both daily living and mobility is uncommon. Be prepared for a wait of up to or over 18 months while you complete the form, do the assessment, get awarded zero points, do the MR, get declined again and wait for tribunal.

But you'll know this, being such a prolific claimant already.

Charging rent at market rates to social tenants was suggested by a previous Tory administration but councils didn't want to do it. It's unfair and not cost-effective.

I struggle to understand this point of view. Is it morally virtuous to pay as high a rent as you can possibly find while driving an old, polluting, unreliable car? Because if not, why would anyone suggest that is the best route to take?

We need more social housing, not more people subsidising private landlords from their own pockets or via housing-related benefits.

A 20 plate car is hardly new!

Could be around 10 to 15k.

OP also said "these are clearly marked when you buy those houses" so are they "Affordable to buy" ? which near me can be around £300k, so hardly the "poor" buying them

Few councils are building new council houses, usually its Housing Associations buying these from the builder.

Exactly! Once the costs of building social housing are recouped via rent, they become a council asset. Who thinks it would be a good idea to remove working tenants so that the rent is once again funded via housing-related benefits?
I'm not suggesting that nobody who has their housing costs paid via UC should be without a home btw. Just that if there's income from rent on social housing, in a sane world that would go towards building/funding more affordable tenancies. Nobody can start to turn their life around, get a job or training if they don't have a secure roof over their head. Honestly, you'd think it was rocket science!

It depends where you live.

In many areas, council housing is very much tied to benefits. In some areas you don't even get on the list unless you're over 50, a care leaver, a successful asylum seeker or in receipt of certain benefits.

It’s def. a case in some cultures (I’ve lived in one such abroad) that the ‘right’ make/model of car is intrinsically bound up with social status/self esteem, and may well be prioritised above other things.

Not that I’m saying the same doesn’t apply increasingly within average UK society.

Obviously it was an awful way to die.

But unless you’re up close and personal to the shit that went on and is many cases is still going on, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

If they were really so concerned about social housing stock they would have bought a different house outright...

My parents lived in council property for all but the first ten years of their (long) marriage.

In the last year before he retired, my DF earned over £75k, which was a bloody lot of money in 1997. They could have bought their council house outright, but DF wouldn't, because he thought right to buy was wrong and that the house should go to someone in housing need, as they were when they first became council tenants.

This I 100% agree with, I would never have bothered spending 4 years studying to better our lives if we were under some kind of tenancy with a clause of being asked to leave just because we had bettered ourselves

"Surely the point of council houses should be that they're for people who NEED subsidised housing, and when their circumstances improve they should have to go and pay market rent or get a mortgage. I have never understood how people get longterm tenancies without the situation being reviewed at intervals."

Both sets of my grandparents lived in council houses their entire adult lives and expected to have them for life. They always worked with a reasonable income. Living in a council house was what most working class people did.

What does where I live have to do with it? I'm not about to tell you where I live.

You did not explain your shitty comment. Hopefully because you've realised that was a fucked up thing to say.

Many people in council houses work. Lower rent = more spare cash for other things. They clearly prioritise a decent car.

Council rent in my area is half of what I pay as a private tenant, if I could get into a council property I could probably afford car finance too. Unfortunately I’m not eligible.

We rent a HA property have been here 6 years. When we got the house it was a waiting list system you just moved up the list and we got offered our house in a rural area near where we were brought up and there was only 2 on the list at the time.

we both work i am a community nurse and have a new car but need a reliable car for my job and new cars come with warranty and no mot etc needing done for 3 years as well as service deals etc so it works for us, we pay full rent and get no benefits except child benefit. We looked at mortgages but the deposit money is too much and we are cheaper renting than buying currently

How about saving your money amd buying your property and freeing up yours for someone on the list then?

I’ve lived in social housing since the 1970’s. I have never once claimed benefits. 🙄

I worked and then I retired with private pensions.

And, yes, I’ve owned cars.🤷‍♀️

I have a relative who works full time - no benefits- rents from the council - no car though.

Er, that’s exactly what I said. Why live in a council house if you can afford a lease car? But feel free to ignore what’s being said and have a little rant.

Do you live in the borough?

Thought not.

It’s actually disgusting and quite telling where your mind went with that.