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Council houses owning brand new cars?

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TheCluelessMum · 06/05/2025 20:52

I’m writing this post with the hopes of being educated, not slandered

however I completely appreciate I may be just completely shot down for asking this.

i live on a new build estate, 12 houses at the start of the estate are council houses. I don’t know this because I’m a snob, I know this because it’s clearly marked on plans when you buy those houses.

i see so much stuff online about how the UK benefits system is failing people, the higher rise of food banks. It’s absolutely abhorrent people are in this situation.

however, when entering my estate today I noticed that each and every single council house had a car newer that a 20 plate. Mercedes, Audi’s, BMW’s even range rovers.. there was not a single house out of the 12 which had an older than 20 plate car.

I am now confused as to why this is the case? Everyone I know (including those receiving benefits) continually speaks about how hard the cost of living is.

so could someone please answer how/why those in what we would presume lower income families, are able to afford such lavish cars.

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ThisPearlCrow · 07/05/2025 13:43

x2boys · 07/05/2025 13:36

Are you able to.self care,clean ,cook meals etc?
Can you independently undertake a journey from A to B if you can do.all these it doesn't matter how many diagnose s you have you are unlikely to be successful in a PIP claim

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Nah, that's not true.

There are numerous websites advising people what to say to make a claim.

The number 1 main condition for PIP awards is mixed anxiety and depression.

Number 14 is ADHD. As PIP is for over 16s we're mostly talking about adult ADHD.

Out of hundreds of conditions.

PluckyCheeks · 07/05/2025 13:42

x2boys · 07/05/2025 13:36

Are you able to.self care,clean ,cook meals etc?
Can you independently undertake a journey from A to B if you can do.all these it doesn't matter how many diagnose s you have you are unlikely to be successful in a PIP claim

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Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

I’ll answer the questions as per my worst day.

x2boys · 07/05/2025 13:37

PluckyCheeks · 07/05/2025 13:11

I’ll just have to ham it up, like all of the other chancers on it 👍

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🙄🙄🙄🙄

x2boys · 07/05/2025 13:36

PluckyCheeks · 06/05/2025 21:20

I actually do and only found out about PIP and motability, so I will be cracking on!

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Are you able to.self care,clean ,cook meals etc?
Can you independently undertake a journey from A to B if you can do.all these it doesn't matter how many diagnose s you have you are unlikely to be successful in a PIP claim

PluckyCheeks · 07/05/2025 13:32

CalleOcho · 07/05/2025 13:23

You’re so incredibly narrow minded and ignorant.

If you’re struggling with day to day life due to your mental health conditions and need some support then crack on and apply for PIP.

If not - shut up and stop being so judgemental and bitter. It’s not a good look.

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I will do. I’ll let you know how I get on 👍

CalleOcho · 07/05/2025 13:23

PluckyCheeks · 07/05/2025 13:11

I’ll just have to ham it up, like all of the other chancers on it 👍

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You’re so incredibly narrow minded and ignorant.

If you’re struggling with day to day life due to your mental health conditions and need some support then crack on and apply for PIP.

If not - shut up and stop being so judgemental and bitter. It’s not a good look.

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TheCluelessMum · 07/05/2025 13:20

Callie247 · 07/05/2025 12:58

They really do walk among us....

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Who is “they” and “us”?

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uncomfortablydumb60 · 07/05/2025 13:16

@PluckyCheeksi have received enhanced rates on both for decades first time without appeal and now no longer subject to reviews
How fucking stupid are you?!

Arran2024 · 07/05/2025 13:12

Freeasa · 06/05/2025 23:03

That’s why you would check the owner against the criteria used to originally allocate them to social housing to see if they still qualify. If they’re skint they would. There are lots of people living in grim b&bs with no means to even cook a meal for years on end. We need to prioritise housing for these people.

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They wouldn't work. They would stay on benefits. So that doesn't make any sense.

PluckyCheeks · 07/05/2025 13:11

uncomfortablydumb60 · 07/05/2025 12:58

Exactly. I have tried to explain this to the poster.
Being able to interact on here is proof that her functioning is not impaired enough to qualify.. but you can’t reason with stupid.

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I’ll just have to ham it up, like all of the other chancers on it 👍

Arran2024 · 07/05/2025 13:09

XenoBitch · 06/05/2025 22:26

Yep. My parents have only ever rented from the council. They have been in their current house for about 35 years. Still paying rent, and will do until they die.

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And when you die, or go into a care home, you have a limited time to clear the house before everything has to be cleared out.

ThisPearlCrow · 07/05/2025 13:03

TheFastTraybake · 07/05/2025 11:35

Don't hold your breath. PIP is hard to claim, being eligible for the enhanced components of both daily living and mobility is uncommon. Be prepared for a wait of up to or over 18 months while you complete the form, do the assessment, get awarded zero points, do the MR, get declined again and wait for tribunal.

But you'll know this, being such a prolific claimant already.

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That's a PIP myth.

It can be hard to claim but the statistics suggest it isn;t.

The average success rate at first claim for all conditions is 51%, obviously higher rates for certain conditions, at mandatory reconsideration, a 27% increase in awards and 68% of people who continue to tribunal claims being successful.

successful claims have grown year on year, with the majority of awards now being for psychiatric/ND conditions where functional disability should be harder to prove.

So I don't think it's as hard to claim as many people suggest.

uncomfortablydumb60 · 07/05/2025 12:58

CalleOcho · 07/05/2025 12:55

If you knew about PIP then you’d know that it doesn’t go on a “diagnosis”. It goes on how you’re able to do your everyday tasks and certain things- and what type of help and support you need to be able to do them.

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Exactly. I have tried to explain this to the poster.
Being able to interact on here is proof that her functioning is not impaired enough to qualify.. but you can’t reason with stupid.

Callie247 · 07/05/2025 12:58

TheCluelessMum · 06/05/2025 20:56

oh!!!!!! I didn’t know this, so just like renting except council is your landlord.

case closed!!!!!! Thanks for responding

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They really do walk among us....

CalleOcho · 07/05/2025 12:55

PluckyCheeks · 06/05/2025 22:44

Oh and I knew about PIP, but I didn’t know I could claim for anxiety and depression, which I have been diagnosed for and medicated for decades. MN has opened my eyes!

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If you knew about PIP then you’d know that it doesn’t go on a “diagnosis”. It goes on how you’re able to do your everyday tasks and certain things- and what type of help and support you need to be able to do them.

uncomfortablydumb60 · 07/05/2025 12:42

You’re either ignorant or wilfully obtuse
Either Is not a good look, nor are you as clever as you think. FYI, my name isn’t Jan( sic)

PluckyCheeks · 07/05/2025 12:21

uncomfortablydumb60 · 07/05/2025 12:16

Your cognitive functioning here suggest that your anxiety and depression is mild
i have bipolar and at both extremes of mood I am either catatonic or psychotic and certainly would be unable to interact on Mumsnet coherently.

Sure, Jan.

uncomfortablydumb60 · 07/05/2025 12:16

Your cognitive functioning here suggest that your anxiety and depression is mild
i have bipolar and at both extremes of mood I am either catatonic or psychotic and certainly would be unable to interact on Mumsnet coherently.

PluckyCheeks · 07/05/2025 12:01

TheFastTraybake · 07/05/2025 12:00

I don't need to Google to know you're talking out of your hat.

Enjoy your day.

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Keep enjoying that ignorant bliss 👍

TheFastTraybake · 07/05/2025 12:00

PluckyCheeks · 07/05/2025 11:58

Research it. Name one of the items listed that is false.

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I don't need to Google to know you're talking out of your hat.

Enjoy your day.

PluckyCheeks · 07/05/2025 11:59

uncomfortablydumb60 · 07/05/2025 11:55

I think plucky cheeks is on a wind up and is actually clueless about “ getting as much as I can” out of the system
Just because you claim PIP, doesn’t mean you’ll be entitled to it
in fact the new descriptors will be brought in precisely to exclude “ mild anxiety and depression” which they claimed they have

As I explained, mine isn’t mild and anyway I have 2 new physical diagnoses which are on the new approved list. Just need to get my act together and claim. I see it as a tax rebate for all the big taxes I used to pay 👍

PluckyCheeks · 07/05/2025 11:58

TheFastTraybake · 07/05/2025 11:57

I agree. That list... Fantastical.

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Research it. Name one of the items listed that is false.

TheFastTraybake · 07/05/2025 11:57

uncomfortablydumb60 · 07/05/2025 11:55

I think plucky cheeks is on a wind up and is actually clueless about “ getting as much as I can” out of the system
Just because you claim PIP, doesn’t mean you’ll be entitled to it
in fact the new descriptors will be brought in precisely to exclude “ mild anxiety and depression” which they claimed they have

I agree. That list... Fantastical.

TheFastTraybake · 07/05/2025 11:56

PluckyCheeks · 07/05/2025 11:48

Wrong again.

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Uh huh.

uncomfortablydumb60 · 07/05/2025 11:55

I think plucky cheeks is on a wind up and is actually clueless about “ getting as much as I can” out of the system
Just because you claim PIP, doesn’t mean you’ll be entitled to it
in fact the new descriptors will be brought in precisely to exclude “ mild anxiety and depression” which they claimed they have