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It’s a LOTR one. I feel so upset over my DHs comment about elves.

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UnhappyHobbit · 06/05/2025 19:53

Name change for this one as it’s slightly outing.

My DH is a huge lord of the rings fan. When my DH and I first got together, he used to “lovingly” joke that I was his hobbit. I’m only 5’3” and I do dress quite quirky so I took it as a compliment. It soon became a bit of a pet name for me and as he’s short too, I likened him to a dwarf.

Over the weekend, We were at one of his friend’s house and he has a relatively new girlfriend. Their kitchen /lounge is slightly open plan so I could hear slightly the conversation my DH was having with his friends. All of his friends are lotr fans and this new gf in the group is very tall. DHs friend was bragging that he had finally managed to pull an elf. My DH exclaimed that it was every man’s dream to pull an elf… One of DHs friends said I thought it was your dream to pull a hobbit, my pet name is known to his friends. DH said he wouldn’t touch a hobbit with those big and hairy feet.

I felt so defeated over this. He has called me a hobbit for years, affectionately so I thought.

I approached him about this after the party and he said that the whole hobbit thing was him teasing me because I’m short. He didn’t want to bring this up as, in his words “I made hobbit my whole personality”. We argued and I said, why is he with me if his dream is someone very tall and well the opposite to me.!? We haven’t spoken since and I’m wondering if I’m over reacting.

Aibu for being devastated and embarrassed by this?

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AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 07/05/2025 15:15

@UnhappyHobbit All kidding aside, I can see why you were hurt. I don't think your DH meant anything by it, but it was a twatish thing to say when he calls you "his hobbit". It might be time to push aside the LOTR nicknames/fantasies and move on to new pastures. Captain America perhaps? Batman? D&D?

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 07/05/2025 15:08

HeartyViper · 06/05/2025 21:57

OP, kindly, I can kind of see why you’re upset.. kind of.

Because I really love my DH. He’s a great man, husband, father, lover whatever.

He’s also well aware that if Chris Hemsworth and his thighs of Thor rock up at our house and offer me some login’, I’m kicking him out sooner than one can say ‘hakuna matata’. In reverse, I’m getting booted for Natalie Portman.

All joking aside, surely, we all harmlessly find other people/celebrities attractive, without a hidden agenda or actual plan of adultery? Just some people are attractive and easy to look at?

I wouldn’t overthink it. Explain you were hurt, but that maybe you’ll chill it with the hobbit things.

Mine was Tom Selleck/Magnum P.I. I told my DH I would write and call often if Tom ever rocked up to my door, especially in that red Maserati. Then DH could be "my side piece". LOL!

My DH, on the other hand, said he couldn't want anyone but the perfect person he already has. {cough-cough-bullshite-cough-cough) Yeah, he's a bit of a liar, but I love him💖 anyway. He just provides me with a few 🐮💩🏴to toss occasionally.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 07/05/2025 14:52

Sherararara · 06/05/2025 20:30

Well that’s one halfling that wont be riding Gandalf’s staff for a while. Smaug git who does he think he is? Upsetting his precious like that?

I am going to need to request that you put a warning on your posts; that they may contain a choking hazard from laughing. I quite near thought I was going to die eating my rice cake while reading your post.

I am telling Sean Astin (Samwise)!

Hotzenplotz · 07/05/2025 14:46

Butchyrestingface · 06/05/2025 21:00

Well, imagine how I feel at 5ft 2" when women of 5ft 6" and above complain about how short they are.

Get tae fuck, you giraffes.

As someone whose "official" height is 5'2", I'm with you! 😁

Hotzenplotz · 07/05/2025 14:42

RedToothBrush · 06/05/2025 22:52

I hate cats.

There. I said it.

🙀 Begone, foul demon!

Hotzenplotz · 07/05/2025 14:41

MamaLenny · 06/05/2025 20:48

Tell him he's an orc

🤣 This amused me far too much.

powershowerforanhour · 07/05/2025 14:29

"Why would you want to pull an elf? Ethereal bloodless beauty, lots of singing, floaty clothes, Arts and Crafts styling."

My thought too. Don't they just waft about looking in mirrors and talking about international politics but not actually doing anything? Whereas hobbits have cracking parties with delicious food and gallons of homebrew, then go off and save the world when it needs doing (comprising 4 out of 9 of the dream team cf 1/9 for the elves) then come home and celebrate with more socialising, food, booze and a roll in the hay? Hobbits all the way. (although my favourite character from the book was Faramir and I definitely would..Éowyn took ages to cop herself on.).

TheOtherAgentJohnson · 07/05/2025 13:59

But the DP wasn't talking about his mate's girlfriend. It was the mate who compared his girlfriend to an elf, then the others started chatting about banging elves.

Given this daft conversation was in earshot of OP, which they all would have known, I imagine the DP was blindsided by being confronted about it hours later.

My friends and I have conversations like this—not so much LOTR, but it could be Gladiators, Rivals, Marvel films, anything. If my husband later demanded to know why I'm not with Danny Dyer if I like thick moustaches and full heads of hair so much, I'd be baffled.

This pet name came about because OP is short. Her DP is not turned on by hobbits—I don't think this is controversial.

OP is basically asking "AIBU to think my DP should have pretended he wants to bang hobbits, to soothe my ego?". Maybe he's right, and she has turned this nickname into a bit of an identity.

I can imagine the AIBU if he had said he's sexually attracted to hobbits—"I thought it was his pet name for me because I'm short, but it turns out he actually thinks I look like a hobbit and wishes I had big, hairy feet!"

Deadringer · 07/05/2025 13:34

I like tall handsome men, my dh is neither but I fell in love with him nonetheless. It wouldn't be nice if he overheard me say so but I think you are over reacting and the whole dwarf, elf hobbit stuff sounds like nonsense to me. BTW I am 5 3 and have always considered myself small, everyone I know irl is taller than me.

alphabetcrayons · 07/05/2025 13:34

SamuelDJackson · 07/05/2025 13:12

Why would you want to pull an elf? Ethereal bloodless beauty, lots of singing, floaty clothes, Arts and Crafts styling.

Rosie Cotton the buxom barmaid though - you knew Sam would end up having more fun in the sack than Aragon, and with minimal poetry

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

NeverDropYourMooncup · 07/05/2025 13:14

WileyCyrus · 06/05/2025 20:31

Agreed! I meet so many women who say “oh I’m a short arse, I’m tiny, I’m only 5ft 4”
That’s only an inch shorter than my very average 5ft 5. It does annoy me

Walk through any secondary school (I'm including all girls' ones in this) and you'll find that you're about the height of the average year 8 girl and are towered over by the vast majority of Y9-13s.

We will become the little old ladies.

SamuelDJackson · 07/05/2025 13:12

Why would you want to pull an elf? Ethereal bloodless beauty, lots of singing, floaty clothes, Arts and Crafts styling.

Rosie Cotton the buxom barmaid though - you knew Sam would end up having more fun in the sack than Aragon, and with minimal poetry

NorthernLights5 · 07/05/2025 12:33

Also, he isn't offended about me being attracted to other people and I'm not offended about him being attracted to others either

NorthernLights5 · 07/05/2025 12:32

I don't know, I'm incredibly attracted to my partner but I'm also attracted to people who look nothing like him (both men and women). I'm attracted to his looks of course but also attracted to his personality and how he treats me. Therefore making him the most attractive person I can think of!

MerlinsBeard1 · 07/05/2025 12:21

Member869894 · 07/05/2025 08:54

Sorry op but your post has me CRYING with 😃laughter

The username finished me off😂

latetothefisting · 07/05/2025 12:20

TheOtherAgentJohnson · 06/05/2025 23:51

Exactly. I will quite openly chat among friends, in front of my husband, about beautiful celebrities. He doesn't cry "but why are you with me, instead of a Hollywood star!", any more than I question why he's with me—a ruddy-faced bumpkin built like a shire horse.

I think there's a bit of a difference for sveral reasons

firstly because presumably when you are chatting about good looking celebritiesyou aren't linking them to real people, whereas here the "celebrities" (elves) were only brought into the conversation in the first place because they were comparing (objectifying) a real woman as one

secondly you probably wouldn't say anything as blatant as
"It's every women's dream to shag Tom hardy" when your partner was in earshot

Finally you wouldn't double down if someone then said something about "ah but don't you like bald rugby players too" and reply "ew no, nobody likes an egg head!"

Tbh I would understand if as some posters have suggested, the DH explained "oh I was just talking about actual hobbits, I didn't even make the link to you!" Or "but youre not a real hobbit!" and apologised. It's still a bit grim to categorise women like that but everyone says stupid things sometimes. It's the fact he didnt give that excuse, suggesting he did mean it, and, worse then turned it back on her saying it's all her fault for playing along with a nickname he gave her, essentially saying she's responsible for him insulting her!

Which if you take away all the LOTR stuff that so many posters can't seem to see past, is just not a very nice way of talking about your wife. (And textbook gaslighting).

If they had just been playing random hypothetical like "would you rather....drive a Delorean or the tardis/be a chaser or a seeker/date an elf or a hobbit" and OP got upset I would probably agree she was being a bit too sensitive (although unlike some people on here I understand that feelings about our looks and bodies aren't always strictly rational so still wouldn't have mocked her for it).

But with his reaction the DH made it needlessly personal and just mean.

MerlinsBeard1 · 07/05/2025 12:19

You sound like a strange bunch. Who talks about pulling elves? I'm an avid LOTR fan but this is too much.

BeckyWithTheGoodBear · 07/05/2025 12:01

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 06/05/2025 20:29

“Only 5’3”?

you do realise that’s smack bang average for a woman. Neither tall nor short.

so the whole hobbit thing is ridiculous based on that alone. You’re not small.

Thank you! I'm 5"3 and was wondering if I too am a hobbit.

Livpool · 07/05/2025 10:52

MyOliveHelper · 06/05/2025 20:33

I think my partner would be a little overwhelmed if I got really into a cute nickname he gave me and started painting them and things like that. He'd see it as kind of... regressive?

This is how I feel too - so odd. OP does sound like being a ‘hobbit’ is part of your personality, which is weird to be honest

BlueEyedBogWitch · 07/05/2025 10:25

UnhappyHobbit · 06/05/2025 21:58

You’re right. I feel like getting rid of anything hobbit related to prove a point. I will not let him call me that again!

I’d be making a point of boxing it all up right in front of him, and when he asks if you’re chucking out all of your LOTR stuff, say, “Yeah, including you if you don’t a) grow up and b) stop objectifying and categorising women like some kind of tragic Tolkien-themed sorting hat.”

Can’t stand men like this. To be honest, if he’s a bloody LOTR geek, you’d think he’d be on his knees in gratitude to even have a girlfriend - they usually don’t.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 07/05/2025 09:58

Not to try and excuse what he said @UnhappyHobbit , as it was a spectacularly stupid and clumsy thing to say, but it doesn't mean that he doesn't find you attractive, or doesn't love you for who you are.

My "type" is tall leggy pale redheads. All my celebrity crushes growing up were tall leggy redheads. DP on the other hand is short, blonde, and in her own words, "mostly torso". In fact, I have never been out with a redhead in my life

Does that mean I don't find DP attractive? Does it mean that I wish DP was taller, or had different colour hair? No, because my actual type (and most mens types) is "person I'm attracted to". If DP was taller, then she wouldn't be DP, wouldn't be the woman I fell for. Tall, leggy, redhead, are all physical attributes. You don't fall for an attribute, you fall for the complete package, and often that package doesn't contain the physical attribute you think you want most.

To use a food metaphor - I love pork. If you asked me what my favourite meat is, I'd go with pork. The smell of bacon cooking is almost a religious experience for me. And yet, most of my favourite meals have nothing to do with bacon. I would never put bacon in a thai curry, or a chilli con carne, or a shephards pie. Because bacon does not work with that meal. That ingredient does not work with that recipe. And if I'm only going to eat one meal for the rest of my life, I'm going to choose something with a rich flavour palate, that I can enjoy over and over again.

Do I like red hair? Would I prefer to spend the rest of my life with someone with red hair who I share nothing in common with, or DP? I'd choose DP over the bacon sarnie every single time.

Uricon2 · 07/05/2025 09:26

Men discussing the relative attractiveness or otherwise of their girlfriends is disrespectful and unappealing and will always lead to problems when overheard. It also applies the other way round.

That said, adults framing these things in the terms of a fantasy universe adds a layer of ridiculousness.

Swirlythingy2025 · 07/05/2025 09:20

its like the debate on the big bang theory with teaching string theory vs the other theory

JustAnInchident · 07/05/2025 09:19

latetothefisting · 06/05/2025 21:10

this did make me laugh

but basically, if you remove all the LOTR stuff, similar analogy is OP is, say, short and curvy.

DH says he loves her curves and calls her a vaguely chubby-related nickname like pumpkin/muffin/whatever.
Friend gets a new girlfriend who is a tall, sporty blonde. DH says, in OP's hearing 'Wow, it's every man's dream to pull a fit blonde.'
Friend says 'I thought you liked short curvy girls?'
DH replies, 'Nah I wouldn't touch a fat little midget.'

In which case I can see why OP was upset. Not only is it a bit grim for him and his friends to sit around classifying women according to made up fantasy creatures, but it would have been bad enough if he'd just said his ideal 'type' was the complete opposite to OP, he didn't have to really stick the boot in by saying he'd never go for someone with (some of) OP's physical characteristics.

It would be different if nobody else knew their nicknames and they were just talking about hypothetical Hobbits (can't believe I just wrote that sentence 😁) but because they did, the friend was essentially asking 'I thought you liked short girls like OP,' and the DH basically replied 'ew no.' He could have turned it round to say something nice like 'Yeah you can keep your elves I love my little Hobbit,' or made a joke 'Hey, anything that's not an orc!' or 'As long as she waxes her feet!' or literally just said something as bland as 'I like both!' He didn't have to be so harsh.

And then when she pointed out she'd overheard and was upset he could have just said 'Sorry I was just joking, I didn't mean anything by it,' not trying to gaslight her into thinking it's her fault by saying she made hobbit her whole personality when he's the one a) really into LOTR and b) who gave her the nickname!

This is a really good post, sifts out the lotr stuff which will act as a red flag to a bull with some of the nastier replies. I’d probably be a bit stung by that too op, there wasn’t any need!!

BoredZelda · 07/05/2025 09:17

Setting aside the inappropriateness of referring to short people as elves/dwarves etc….

All the snarky comments about it being childish and ridiculous shows how MN just can’t deal with people who are different and enjoy different things. Being obsessed with LOTR as an adult is not childish, no different to a guy who is obsessed about following a bunch of guys who wear the same colours and kick a ball about to the point they will cry if their guys score fewer points than the other guys, and start fights because the other guys’ supporters are in the pub with them. Just because you don’t understand it, doesn’t mean it is childish.

As many here seem incapable of looking past it, think about it this way. You’re blonde and you overhear your husband saying “oh I hate blondes, they’re so dumb” Or, you’ve overweight and you hear him saying “I hate fat people, they’re so lazy” etc. You all happy with that? You wouldn’t take it personally?

@UnhappyHobbitYou are right to be annoyed, he needs to explain himself.

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