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To wonder what Starmer was thinking with this one

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sideeyes · 06/05/2025 19:39

Indian nationals being cheaper to hire in the UK? Not paying NI contributions? What is the massive gain we get from this? As a life-long Labour voter this is just another policy that makes me want to cry. He just doesn’t get it, does he?

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Netamount · 06/05/2025 19:54

sideeyes · 06/05/2025 19:52

I understand this but that is one of his major weaknesses: he has no idea how to communicate to the audience. He also doesn’t seem to stand for anything. I really do think he’s a waste of a Labour PM.

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Oh yeah, don’t get me wrong, he’s fine at running stuff, but awful at the comms.

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sideeyes · 06/05/2025 19:54

Netamount · 06/05/2025 19:51

It’s impossible to comment on this without understanding what the wider deal is. He’s also not going to beat Reform by imitating them - Reform-supporters will always back the full fat version.

Also - he’s not beating Reform on his current tack. He needs to align with the EU but hasn’t got the bloody balls

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sideeyes · 06/05/2025 19:52

Netamount · 06/05/2025 19:51

It’s impossible to comment on this without understanding what the wider deal is. He’s also not going to beat Reform by imitating them - Reform-supporters will always back the full fat version.

I understand this but that is one of his major weaknesses: he has no idea how to communicate to the audience. He also doesn’t seem to stand for anything. I really do think he’s a waste of a Labour PM.

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Netamount · 06/05/2025 19:51

It’s impossible to comment on this without understanding what the wider deal is. He’s also not going to beat Reform by imitating them - Reform-supporters will always back the full fat version.

OnlyDespairRemains · 06/05/2025 19:49

As I understand it, it applies to Indian companies employing Indian nationals in the UK. It does not apply to UK companies employing Indians, so not actually nearly as big a deal as some are portraying it.

At least that’s my reading of it. Admittedly it is quite confusing.

2024onwardsandup · 06/05/2025 19:48

Well it’s a shame if the public is that dumb

is it better that he gets the best deal or that he priorities what it might look like at a brief glance to people who don’t engage their brains just to make a gesture?

TinySaltLick · 06/05/2025 19:47

sideeyes · 06/05/2025 19:44

Yes but he has no idea how this plays to the audience. He just got a kicking from Reform. He has never had any idea how to do politics.

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Access to skilled labour via secondments is surely exactly the type of temporary, skills based immigration that reform would say is the right way to do it?

Or will they just twist and lie about any move he can possibly make and continue to perpetrate the 'labour lie about everything' deflection

Jabberwok · 06/05/2025 19:47

Or is it fair that if was posted to India for a year by my employer I pay taxes there and here? Or visa versa? It's for employees being moved by their companies temporarily not permanent employment in the uk

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sideeyes · 06/05/2025 19:44

2024onwardsandup · 06/05/2025 19:43

thinking about negotiating a deal? Where concessions are made for other gains…

Yes but he has no idea how this plays to the audience. He just got a kicking from Reform. He has never had any idea how to do politics.

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2024onwardsandup · 06/05/2025 19:43

thinking about negotiating a deal? Where concessions are made for other gains…

Bavariamaria · 06/05/2025 19:41

Sounds like NI is paid in the home country, similar to an A1 set up currently in place with various European countries.