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To ask what should be being done about the economy and the country generally

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AlertCat · 06/05/2025 08:26

I’m fairly Keynesian in my economics (I’m not an economist) but there are so many problems in society at the moment that I’m not sure even a massive programme of work like in the 1950s would really help.
There’s another thread where people are expressing unhappiness at the levels of tax they’re being asked to pay and it’s easy to find lots of threads about benefit claimants and immigration.

If we take as given that (a) our birthrate means we need immigration; (b) we have a benefits system that’s both overly punitive and (apparently) overly lenient if you say the right things (I’m not sure I personally believe the second part, but it’s an opinion I see a lot); (c) climate change means more and more people from the global south moving north; (d) the days of good state services, free at the point of use may be over-

what would you do differently to the government? Could we get back to the kind of services provision we had in the post-war consensus era (up until the Thatcher government)? Is that a pipe dream? Is it even desirable?

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TheWisePlumDuck · 06/05/2025 08:34

Legal immigration needs to be looked at, without emotion.

I am an immigrant myself, so really REALLY do not want reform to get in off the back of the government refusing to see the truth of the situation.

Immigration is beneficial when done right. In the UK at the moment far too many legal migrants are not net contributors, when also adding in that they and their dependants also need to access services such as schools and infrastructure it becomes a net loss for most.

It is and never has been the permanent solution to low birthrates. All us immigrants get old too so you need a constantly increasing flow of people, but what is the solution long term? Better quality of life, free childcare provision, acknowledgement of the social contribution of SAHP who choose to, and higher wages would help far more.

Swiftie1878 · 06/05/2025 08:29

Your givens are not actually givens, so hard to say really.