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Mum turning up unannounced to visit grandchild

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Justacupoftea123 · 06/05/2025 06:34

Hoping I don’t come across awful here, but that’s partly why I’m asking AIBU.

My mum had me when she was older which means now as a grandparent she is very old considering I have a newborn.

Unfortunately she has various health conditions in old age which have left her with a zimmer and unable to walk unaided or drive herself places. It means she’s reliant on my Dad to take her everywhere, otherwise she’s now sat in the house all day when she was very sociable before.

the issue we’re having is that since this change, it feels like she has become a bit manipulative. We had a baby a month ago and are trying to find a new routine with 2 under 2. As my parents are older, when they come to visit it makes life harder - they can’t help with childcare, will just sit around all day, and either bring tons of food we don’t eat and take over our kitchen at lunch or expect us to make them lunch. They stay for hours on end and will sit and wait in our living room while our toddler naps despite us setting a boundary that they can come for the morning and leave at nap time. Because of the mobility issues it means we can’t do outings on visit days even if it’s nice weather because then my mum can’t participate (she refuses to get a mobility scooter).

I want to give them time with their grandchildren but it’s straining our marriage. My mum messaged to say last time she saw our son he seemed so big now “because she doesn’t see him often” despite having seen him sometimes twice a week (and he’s only a month old). I mentioned that fact and she replied that she appreciates she sees him and wasn’t meaning anything bad by it but it guilt trips me.

She is constantly asking our plans and making me feel like I have to invite her over regularly or that I should be driving to hers (1 hour away). Yesterday it reached a head, I had specifically told her not to come and we had arranged for the day after, however she turned up unannounced when we were on a day trip. We arrived back to her and my dad sitting in the driveway waiting for us. They had been going to let themselves in the house apparently but remember we have security that would alarm. We had been out for a family day and were rushing back for lunch and naptime and running late. I said to her it wasn’t a great time because of that and she said they hadn’t had lunch yet either (aka hinting to come in).

Im feeling very suffocated by it all but AIBU?

OP posts:
Communitywebbing · 06/05/2025 12:11

Your mum may be losing her marbles just a bit, possibly made worse by being inactive and in pain. The days may go by much slower for her than for you and twice a week visits seem like an age apart.
I would tell both your parents together that you want to see them and have them involved with the GC, but their visiting has to fit in with the children's routine, so you need to agree arrangements in advance and then stick to them. So please never turn up unannounced and if you have explained that you need to get on with things yourself from naptime onwards, please plan to leave at naptime and not later.
Their needs/wants may seem very powerful because they are your parents, but actually you have more of the power, not them.

PopThatBench · 06/05/2025 12:10

My opinion is skewed because I’m 30 weeks pregnant and I lost my Mum suddenly 6 weeks ago (she was only 57).
We had plans for her to be spending lots of time with us so I’d give anything to get home and find her on my driveway.
Having said that, it would be stressful to play host with a newborn and a toddler.
Your parents seem to love you very much, it seems they probably are aware they’re not as helpful as they’d like to be and they’re desperate to not be left behind.

Could you do a scheduled visit once or twice a week and prepare yourselves that those two days will be hectic so you feel less surprised by it all? x

HaveAGoWhyNot · 06/05/2025 12:10

TorroFerney · 06/05/2025 11:52

For goodness sake. The mawkish sentimentality on here sometimes. So when you are old you can just do what you want then and others can’t say a thing in case you drop dead in the next x years?

Exactly. It is such over sentimental manipulative nonsense.

HaveAGoWhyNot · 06/05/2025 12:08

The Grandparents might go on till their 90s or later. Let’s not imagine that all people in their late 70s are on death’s door.

HaveAGoWhyNot · 06/05/2025 12:07

Mischance · 06/05/2025 11:35

I do see how difficult this is for you. It is hard to strike the right balance.

But ...... your parents probably found you rather irritating during the lifetime of bringing you up! - they fed you, clothed you, cared for you, saw you through all the phases of your childhood, including the terrible teens - them not doing the washing up as you might wish is a breeze compared with all that!

And one day you will be them! - it creeps up unbidden whether we like it or not! - and I am sure you would wish your children to be understanding and tolerant of how life is for you at each phase as it comes around.

Grandparents are not just there to be useful - to provide child care for instance - and they will not always do things exactly your way. They are not doing unacceptable things with your children, or being abusive in any way - so that is good! The irritations are minor.

But that is a rather transactional approach and maybe they could also simply be valued for who they are - with all their imperfections - as I am sure you would wish your own children to value and love you when that time comes.

Things are clearly a bit out of synch at the moment and the visits do not time well for you and your small family. Could you just sit down and discuss this with them in a kindly way? - recognising how much they wish to see their GC, but talking about how this can be planned so that it fits in with everyone. And being clear about what does not suit, as well as what does. So not a grumble discussion telling them how irritating it all is, but a positive discussion talking about what would be best for you.

I hope you can find a satisfactory way forward for everyone.

But ...... your parents probably found you rather irritating during the lifetime of bringing you up! - they fed you, clothed you, cared for you, saw you through all the phases of your childhood, including the terrible teens

Tough. Well of course parents should do that for their kids. It is the bare minimum. Children are young and vulnerable and unable to live independently. They didn’t ask to be born. There is no comparison to the situation with these grandparents.

I would never use this kind of emotional blackmail with my adult children.

Rockhopper1 · 06/05/2025 12:06

Hwi · 06/05/2025 09:22

Posts like that are disgusting because they are utilitarian, soulless and evil. I won't question people anymore when they say 'pointless to have children, absolutely pointless'.

I do get really shocked by the whole tone of posters who don’t seem to realise they’ll be old , ill & scared themselves before they know it . Twenty five years will have gone in a flash and they’ll be in the ‘unwanted irritation’ role themselves .
PP’s labelling this poor older couple as ‘ manipulative’ when the evidence given has been they’re getting things wrong but love their daughter & don’t realise they’ve ’ outlived their usefulness’ . The Dad seems to have tried so hard to help , changing nappies & taking his grandchild out . The Mum making delicious food … Put boundaries in place with love and please realise in a very few years you won’t need them because they won’t be here .

OhBow · 06/05/2025 12:04

OP from bitter experience I'd urge you to protect your marriage from this stress. Also protect your own sanity! You're right in the thick of it at the moment.

TheGreyQuail · 06/05/2025 12:04

The joys of older parents when you are younger and have your own young kids to look after.

HaveAGoWhyNot · 06/05/2025 12:02

TorroFerney · 06/05/2025 09:09

she might not enjoy their company, I don’t with mine. It’s not a given.

Same. It’s a chore borne out of duty for me.

Gymnopedie · 06/05/2025 12:02

OP if you were writing this about your in-laws you would be told you have a DH problem.

And nobody would be suggesting that you should do all the childcare while DH had a nice time spending time with his parents, as they are saying he should for you.

I can completely understand that this is too much for him, it's too much for you. If it's at the point where it's causing problems in your marriage already and the baby is only a month old you're going to have to do some hard thinking about your priorities.

Edit, cross post with your last one OP.

Taytayslayslay · 06/05/2025 11:59

JoyousEagle · 06/05/2025 06:43

She’s complaining that she only sees your newborn twice a week?? She’s being ridiculous, no one can claim with a straight face that that isn’t seeing him often.

I ended up cutting my mum off for many reasons, but one thing she tried to make me do was schedule a weekly visit for her to come to my house and see my kids. I said it should be when I decide like once or twice a month if I wanted (we had a very strained relationship anyway). No advice here but you're not alone and the suffocating feeling is very very real.

MeetMyCat · 06/05/2025 11:54

No one wants to be living on the edge or get a sinking feeling whenever the doorbell rings or we come home from outings that it could be GPs.

YANBU, all this would drive me mad. You've had some very good advice - a kind conversation, a visiting schedule, and you going to them instead. Good luck :)

TorroFerney · 06/05/2025 11:52

Ubertomusic · 06/05/2025 10:50

This. Both grandparents don't have much time left and their daughter is annoyed they come to see her and DGC too often...
How very sad.

For goodness sake. The mawkish sentimentality on here sometimes. So when you are old you can just do what you want then and others can’t say a thing in case you drop dead in the next x years?

Justacupoftea123 · 06/05/2025 11:52

@LadyMargaretPoledancer @thepariscrimefiles thanks both, you are spot on about my DH.

@Ddakji my DH is very supportive of me. He has been doing endless washing, caring for our 2 year old and cooking and cleaning the house, running errands the list goes on.

He knows I’m caught between a rock and a hard place. By causing marriage issues, I solely meant because like any inconvenience in life, we would like to be able to plan out our days without fear of my parents turning up. Also he wants to be able to feel comfortable in his own home, with the routine he has establish for our toddler some days rather than constantly having to host.

I know that if it was my in laws acting the same way, then I would feel the same way my husband does. No one wants to be living on the edge or get a sinking feeling whenever the doorbell rings or we come home from outings that it could be GPs.

The reality is if my parents weren’t like this, I would probably invite them over just as much or more of my own free will.

OP posts:
Rockhopper1 · 06/05/2025 11:52

Ddakji · 06/05/2025 10:59

The OP has a husband who’s on paternity leave. Who’s clearly getting annoyed with his in-laws. Perhaps because he’s not actually that much use at looking after his wife and children post-childbirth?

Really suspect you’re right . Particularly as OP post title of ‘Mum ‘ being the problem rather than ‘ Dad ‘ strongly suggests DH influence .

the7Vabo · 06/05/2025 11:47

Theroadt · 06/05/2025 11:19

I can see it’s hard but they need support too. My elderly father would for thd day. I made him cups of tea, he would read stories to the kids, or read the newspaper/book until it was time to go home. It is hard on you, but she’s obviously lonely

My mother is widowed. I had my second child during Covid when my mum “bubbled” with us (Ireland). She coped very badly with the loneliness she ranted extensively about people breaking restrictions, and about one of her friends who was driving her mad.

It was hard and I lost my temper once or twice, but she has no one else, she’s my mother at the end of the day & I love her.

She isn’t physically that able and she certainly never did housework but she did read to the toddler and take him for the odd walk.

I think YANBU about unannounced visits and wanting to be fed etc but you lose me saying you want this once in a lifetime event (6 months paternity) to be special for your family.
As you note, getting 6 months paternity is not standard, you’re getting much more than the average person so why wouldn’t you share some of that time with your elderly parents and see that as a positive.

Yes being a mother of small children is hard, but being old and sick is hard and both deserve support.

Also having a baby & toddler is a joyful time, it’s hard but it’s getting easier and all the work is watch children bloom. By contrast having high needs as an older person while no doubt being aware of your mortality isn’t so joyful.

Rockhopper1 · 06/05/2025 11:46

Mischance · 06/05/2025 11:35

I do see how difficult this is for you. It is hard to strike the right balance.

But ...... your parents probably found you rather irritating during the lifetime of bringing you up! - they fed you, clothed you, cared for you, saw you through all the phases of your childhood, including the terrible teens - them not doing the washing up as you might wish is a breeze compared with all that!

And one day you will be them! - it creeps up unbidden whether we like it or not! - and I am sure you would wish your children to be understanding and tolerant of how life is for you at each phase as it comes around.

Grandparents are not just there to be useful - to provide child care for instance - and they will not always do things exactly your way. They are not doing unacceptable things with your children, or being abusive in any way - so that is good! The irritations are minor.

But that is a rather transactional approach and maybe they could also simply be valued for who they are - with all their imperfections - as I am sure you would wish your own children to value and love you when that time comes.

Things are clearly a bit out of synch at the moment and the visits do not time well for you and your small family. Could you just sit down and discuss this with them in a kindly way? - recognising how much they wish to see their GC, but talking about how this can be planned so that it fits in with everyone. And being clear about what does not suit, as well as what does. So not a grumble discussion telling them how irritating it all is, but a positive discussion talking about what would be best for you.

I hope you can find a satisfactory way forward for everyone.

Lovely post .

Mischance · 06/05/2025 11:35

I do see how difficult this is for you. It is hard to strike the right balance.

But ...... your parents probably found you rather irritating during the lifetime of bringing you up! - they fed you, clothed you, cared for you, saw you through all the phases of your childhood, including the terrible teens - them not doing the washing up as you might wish is a breeze compared with all that!

And one day you will be them! - it creeps up unbidden whether we like it or not! - and I am sure you would wish your children to be understanding and tolerant of how life is for you at each phase as it comes around.

Grandparents are not just there to be useful - to provide child care for instance - and they will not always do things exactly your way. They are not doing unacceptable things with your children, or being abusive in any way - so that is good! The irritations are minor.

But that is a rather transactional approach and maybe they could also simply be valued for who they are - with all their imperfections - as I am sure you would wish your own children to value and love you when that time comes.

Things are clearly a bit out of synch at the moment and the visits do not time well for you and your small family. Could you just sit down and discuss this with them in a kindly way? - recognising how much they wish to see their GC, but talking about how this can be planned so that it fits in with everyone. And being clear about what does not suit, as well as what does. So not a grumble discussion telling them how irritating it all is, but a positive discussion talking about what would be best for you.

I hope you can find a satisfactory way forward for everyone.

thepariscrimefiles · 06/05/2025 11:29

Ddakji · 06/05/2025 11:18

I’m not. The OP has said this is causing problems in her marriage. So we need to ask why? Why would her husband have a problem with his wife’s elderly and disabled parents visiting? He’s there, he can make the tea and look after the toddler while his wife sits on the sofa with the newborn and shoots the breeze with her parents.

Come off it. It's very obvious from OP's posts that her parents are getting on her nerves. Why wouldn't her husband have a problem with his in-laws visiting more than twice a week when he took paternity leave to look after his family, not to support his in-laws. If he didn't want them to come round at all, he would be unreasonable, but OP and her DH both want to limit her parents' visits during this post-partum period and that is their choice to make.

thepariscrimefiles · 06/05/2025 11:25

Theroadt · 06/05/2025 11:19

I can see it’s hard but they need support too. My elderly father would for thd day. I made him cups of tea, he would read stories to the kids, or read the newspaper/book until it was time to go home. It is hard on you, but she’s obviously lonely

Her mum isn't on her own though. She has OP's dad. It isn't OP's responsibilty to provide company and entertainment for her mum when she is newly post-partum and getting used to looking after two children under the age of 2. They also didn't visit as often before the baby was born so it seems that this is more about seeing the baby than loneliness.

LadyMargaretPoledancer · 06/05/2025 11:19

Ddakji · 06/05/2025 11:17

The OP says it’s causing problems in her marriage. So clearly the OP’s husband has a problem with this.

It’s not the role of elderly and disabled GPs to provide support. That’s his job. And that might involve supporting her and her family while her parents visit.

The only reason I can see that this would cause a problem is that the husband doesn’t step up.

Most responses on this post are ignoring that the husband is off at the same time.

The only reason you can see...which means the conclusion you immediately jump to based on you making stuff up.

You're determined to blame the DH instead of looking at the parents blatantly ignoring the OP telling them not to come over.

Theroadt · 06/05/2025 11:19

Justacupoftea123 · 06/05/2025 06:34

Hoping I don’t come across awful here, but that’s partly why I’m asking AIBU.

My mum had me when she was older which means now as a grandparent she is very old considering I have a newborn.

Unfortunately she has various health conditions in old age which have left her with a zimmer and unable to walk unaided or drive herself places. It means she’s reliant on my Dad to take her everywhere, otherwise she’s now sat in the house all day when she was very sociable before.

the issue we’re having is that since this change, it feels like she has become a bit manipulative. We had a baby a month ago and are trying to find a new routine with 2 under 2. As my parents are older, when they come to visit it makes life harder - they can’t help with childcare, will just sit around all day, and either bring tons of food we don’t eat and take over our kitchen at lunch or expect us to make them lunch. They stay for hours on end and will sit and wait in our living room while our toddler naps despite us setting a boundary that they can come for the morning and leave at nap time. Because of the mobility issues it means we can’t do outings on visit days even if it’s nice weather because then my mum can’t participate (she refuses to get a mobility scooter).

I want to give them time with their grandchildren but it’s straining our marriage. My mum messaged to say last time she saw our son he seemed so big now “because she doesn’t see him often” despite having seen him sometimes twice a week (and he’s only a month old). I mentioned that fact and she replied that she appreciates she sees him and wasn’t meaning anything bad by it but it guilt trips me.

She is constantly asking our plans and making me feel like I have to invite her over regularly or that I should be driving to hers (1 hour away). Yesterday it reached a head, I had specifically told her not to come and we had arranged for the day after, however she turned up unannounced when we were on a day trip. We arrived back to her and my dad sitting in the driveway waiting for us. They had been going to let themselves in the house apparently but remember we have security that would alarm. We had been out for a family day and were rushing back for lunch and naptime and running late. I said to her it wasn’t a great time because of that and she said they hadn’t had lunch yet either (aka hinting to come in).

Im feeling very suffocated by it all but AIBU?

I can see it’s hard but they need support too. My elderly father would for thd day. I made him cups of tea, he would read stories to the kids, or read the newspaper/book until it was time to go home. It is hard on you, but she’s obviously lonely

Ddakji · 06/05/2025 11:18

LadyMargaretPoledancer · 06/05/2025 11:08

Just stop making random things up.

I’m not. The OP has said this is causing problems in her marriage. So we need to ask why? Why would her husband have a problem with his wife’s elderly and disabled parents visiting? He’s there, he can make the tea and look after the toddler while his wife sits on the sofa with the newborn and shoots the breeze with her parents.

Ddakji · 06/05/2025 11:17

thepariscrimefiles · 06/05/2025 11:04

You are just making stuff up now. Where is your evidence that OP's DH is useless when looking after his children? Maybe he is getting annoyed with his in-laws as they are making more work for him and OP, rather than providing any help and support.

The OP says it’s causing problems in her marriage. So clearly the OP’s husband has a problem with this.

It’s not the role of elderly and disabled GPs to provide support. That’s his job. And that might involve supporting her and her family while her parents visit.

The only reason I can see that this would cause a problem is that the husband doesn’t step up.

Most responses on this post are ignoring that the husband is off at the same time.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 06/05/2025 11:17

I think it’s time to sit down with your DH and discuss how to deal with your parents moving forward.
Because at the moment they can get to you, they can still visit via car and while they don’t do much when they turn up, you are not at the stage where you are being called upon to provide care.
However, there is a good chance they will need some at some point in the future and the worst time to discuss it is then. It is best to have a think of what you could provide or not. Because there are few boundaries here and sadly daughters are looked upon as resource centres. Where they have no needs of their own.
At some point, you morph into the parent and it’s a tough job because it’s like having two more toddlers in your hands.
Start by sitting down and gently discussing your concerns. It is better to get it out in the open. You love and care for both of them, you want them to have quality time with their GC, but the way they visit needs to change so that when they do come, it’s of more value to all of you.
There could be fireworks. But I remember seeing it as teenagers sulking. In the end, they will have to respect your wishes and your home.
How are they managing in their own home? How do they cope with housework and caring for themselves?