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To think I can apply for post grad med school with a 2.2 in languages from 15 years ago?

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Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 13:30

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Name changed but I'm a mumsnet lover.

I've been thinking about studying medicine. Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to be a doctor. But I just never thought it possible.

I've got an english language degree and by the time i apply, would (fingers crossed) have a c2 cert in French.

But i only got a 2.2 😔, and I haven't worked since a corporate grad job that I did after uni, and haven't worked for close to a decade due to raising dc.

I'm a single mum so would study around raiding dc. I can't currently get work experience whilst I raise them, but would be able to study.

How crazy am I to think that a med school, somewhere in London, would accept me, with these circumstances.

I don't have science a levels either, just languages.

Tia x

OP posts:
JodyFarr · 05/05/2025 15:00

TheWombatleague · 05/05/2025 14:57

If you can't answer that question I'd be more worried about the institution that awarded you any classification.

I mean I can. But like I'm asking the OP why she ended up with a 2.2

KnickerFolder · 05/05/2025 15:00

It’s not impossible if you really want to do it. You wouldn’t be eligible for the fast track graduate medicine schemes but you could apply as an undergraduate. You would probably need to do an Access to Medicine course (you need to check if the med schools you are applying to accept it as a qualification and which specific courses they accept - there is more than one provider). Here is the med schools council link with entry requirements:

MSC

You would also need some work experience. I agree with a PP that bank work as an HCA is probably the best way to gain insight into a career in medicine and what it’s really like working for the NHS.

Med school is hard work but it is largely 9-5, so childcare shouldn’t be too much of an issue. You won’t get long university vacations in the later years, so you would need some school holiday childcare.

Juggling a family as a resident doctor when you will be working long hours, weekends and nights will be the real challenge. You may have to relocate. Your DC will be much older then though. Once you have done your foundation years training, there are some specialties that are more family friendly than others. If you can actually get a training contract…

Entry requirements | Medical Schools Council

https://www.medschools.ac.uk/studying-medicine/how-to-apply-to-medical-school-in-the-uk/entry-requirements

titchy · 05/05/2025 14:59

JodyFarr · 05/05/2025 14:54

How do people even get 2.2s bar extenuating circumstances?

By being a slightly lazy-arse prone to very last minute exam revision —looking at you ds— Angry

Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 14:59

Pickledpoppetpickle · 05/05/2025 14:03

OP we are crying out for languages teachers. They will give you £25k tax free to train and you will walk into a job once qualified. You will need solid childcare arrangements but you will get long holidays to enjoy with your children. Do consider it - the shortage is acute, no doubt about it, outstanding schools and independents would snap you up.

Agree that language teachers are important but I honestly don't want to teach, I don't have the passion needed to do it x

OP posts:
TheWombatleague · 05/05/2025 14:57

JodyFarr · 05/05/2025 14:54

How do people even get 2.2s bar extenuating circumstances?

If you can't answer that question I'd be more worried about the institution that awarded you any classification.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/05/2025 14:55

Was it really necessary for you to make that comment?

Bestfadeplans · 05/05/2025 14:55

I dont think you've got any chance currently. And I'm very much an "aim for the stars" type of person.

Do an access course, although you'd probably need to fund it yourself.

How hard was it to achieve the 2:2??

TheWombatleague · 05/05/2025 14:55

I can't find it now, but there used to be a postgraduate course at a Welsh University that you could access via an entry exam. If medicine is what you really want to do, there are ways to do it, even if it means doing a course before postgraduate medicine.

Don't give up on your dream while there's still time to achieve it.

JodyFarr · 05/05/2025 14:54

How do people even get 2.2s bar extenuating circumstances?

Yotoyoto · 05/05/2025 14:53

Why don’t you look into being a PA? I personally don’t agree with them in principle but it would probably suit you much more. They tend to do much less out of hours and have predictable rotas as well (usually taking all the best training away from actual doctors.)

BendySpoon · 05/05/2025 14:51

YABU. Your degree isn’t even relevant and was 15 years ago. You need to have a conversation with someone at the university to see what you could do to be considered.

Viviennemary · 05/05/2025 14:50

You would never do it in four years without a science or medical background. And the 4 year course is very intensive. By all means make enquiries and as others have said you will need to do some more qualifications.

VickyEadieofThigh · 05/05/2025 14:48

Fangisnotacoward · 05/05/2025 13:57

Honestly, no. Graduate medicine is very competitive, and there will be so so many recent graduates of assorted science degrees that will also be looking at the course. I think you may have to manage your expectation.

At the very least, I think you need to do an additional access course, especially as you've not got a background in science and have been out of education so long.

I'm aware of two people in my very extended friend (friends of friends of friends type of thing) circle who did graduate medicine. One did Nursing as a first degree, the other biomedical science, both got firsts in those fields.

This. Postgrad entry medicine is usually for people who did a relevant first degree (science, biomedical science, etc) and most (if not all will require 2:1 in that science first degree. If you don't even have A levels, they won't look at you. You will also need some significant, relevant work experience.

What is likely to prove a massive barrier on its own is getting a good enough score on the Gamsat or UKCAT test - it's very hard indeed and for someone without recent, relevant science quals, probably impossible.

I know all this because my niece (possessor of science A levels at v good grades, a relevant first degree at 2:1 and a relevant second degree AND a year working full-time as a HCA in a hospital) for the past 3 years has been applying. She finally got a good enough score at UKCAT and one interview. She now has a place to study medicine.

Words · 05/05/2025 14:46

This is going to sound brutal. You may enjoy studying, but if you can't Even manage to be one of the 70 per cent thèse days who get a first or a 2:1 I doubt you have the intellectual apparatus required.

One in three get a first thèse days. Adjust your expectations. Nursing might be an option I guess.

Zone2NorthLondon · 05/05/2025 14:45

No
You’ve literally done a superficial google and don’t know what’s available to you
you don’t meet the entry criteria . You’ve made no effort to meet it
you have no recent experience in health or social care, go get some
have not made any steps toward A level sciences or access course

PG medicine in london
QMUL
kings
George’s
imperial

KCL

Graduate Entry Medicine Programme

Study for the MBBS Medicine degree especially for graduate and professional applicants in the School of Medicine at King's College London.

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/medicine-graduate-professional-entry-mbbs

AnnaFrith · 05/05/2025 14:44

JodyFarr · 05/05/2025 14:30

No science a levels, a 2:2 in English. I wouldn't want you as my doctor. Even people with good grades don't get into medicine, you should be realistic with yourself.

I got into graduate entry medicine with a 2.2 in a non-science subject.

I now have a BMBS and my CCT - none of my patients know or care about my A levels.

AngelinaFibres · 05/05/2025 14:44

Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 13:57

Thank you - its sad that you'd never do it again 😢, but that's the government's fault for not supporting our doctors x

I have a friend who has worked as a counsellor for junior doctors for many years. She said that she used to get one or 2 young doctors per year who were feeling suicidal. Now it is 3 or 4 A WEEK.
My son has a friend from uni who is still in training ( they graduated from their first degrees 10 years ago). He has a girlfriend and a small child. She is effectively a single parent and he is an exhausted, badly paid shell who goes from placement to placement wherever he is sent(and that can be the absolute back of beyond).
I was a single parent of 2 and worked as a primary school teacher. That just about worked because I could take them with me when their school had training/ was doing different term dates. I couldn't have been a doctor.

Adelstrop · 05/05/2025 14:44

I know nothing about medicine degrees, but what I really read from your post is that you want an intellectual challenge. Why not focus on something you could do, and which would build on your strengths, such as learn another language, privately tutor in a language you have, or maybe do an Open University degree?

Nevermindkitten · 05/05/2025 14:43

Hi, I think you should look into it if it is what you want to do. Some medical schools allow graduates with non-science backgrounds and 2.2s if they pass the GAMSAT or similar exam (+ interviews ect too of course). You might be eligible for St Geroges in London for instance, although I think you might have to show recent engagenent in education (see their website for details). However to pass the GAMSAT you might find it helpful to take biology or or chemistry A levels anyway (unless you already have them) and I think these would count as recent engagement in education. Please check their website to check I am right though and also look at other medical school websites too. If you do get onto the course you may also qualify for NHS bursaries as well as student loans (I am not sure of the details but might be worth looking into if relevant to you).

Graduate medicine and any future medical career can of course be really tough, but please do not be discouraged to at least investigate a bit further if you think it may be your vocation. Good luck!!

KeenDuck · 05/05/2025 14:43

ItsDrActually · 05/05/2025 14:31

This is interesting! I train folks in a different profession and have had people coming through in their 50s. Generally they're fine with classroom side of things but practicums floor them. Having an age limit would make sense, we spend a lot of time training people so you want to get value for money.

It was 2009. When my ex applied with a 2.2 in chemistry and was declined on the basis of the fact that he was 44 and they would only get 20 years of work out of him which didn’t justify the cost of training him in ROI terms. Of course that might’ve been bullshit but that was the reason given.

Christwosheds · 05/05/2025 14:43

Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 13:30

Please be nice to me 🙈

Name changed but I'm a mumsnet lover.

I've been thinking about studying medicine. Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to be a doctor. But I just never thought it possible.

I've got an english language degree and by the time i apply, would (fingers crossed) have a c2 cert in French.

But i only got a 2.2 😔, and I haven't worked since a corporate grad job that I did after uni, and haven't worked for close to a decade due to raising dc.

I'm a single mum so would study around raiding dc. I can't currently get work experience whilst I raise them, but would be able to study.

How crazy am I to think that a med school, somewhere in London, would accept me, with these circumstances.

I don't have science a levels either, just languages.

Tia x

I think you are massively underestimating the amount of scientific background learning you will need. If you didn’t even do Biology and Chemistry GCSE then you won’t grasp the basics. I think you need to spend some time doing science A levels , and seeing how you get on at that level, after learning the GCSE courses to give you the basics pre A level.

Ponderingwindow · 05/05/2025 14:42

This is probably a harder path than you realize. There are other related paths though that have lower barriers to entry. You might explore medical careers other than being a doctor. I’m not saying it’s impossible, just that it is going to be an incredibly intensive path of study.

if you have an aptitude for languages, you could also consider something like learning sign language and becoming an interpreter.

catlovingdoctor · 05/05/2025 14:37

AthWat · 05/05/2025 14:31

For the doctor you mention, her age maybe wasn't typical but it sounds like she probably applied to medical school immediately off the back of 3 good and relevant A levels, so in that respect yes she was a typical candidate.

Nope, I think she did / retook her GCSEs in her mid-thirites then did an access course. She had no formal education beyond that of a school-leaver.