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To think I can apply for post grad med school with a 2.2 in languages from 15 years ago?

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Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 13:30

Please be nice to me 🙈

Name changed but I'm a mumsnet lover.

I've been thinking about studying medicine. Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to be a doctor. But I just never thought it possible.

I've got an english language degree and by the time i apply, would (fingers crossed) have a c2 cert in French.

But i only got a 2.2 😔, and I haven't worked since a corporate grad job that I did after uni, and haven't worked for close to a decade due to raising dc.

I'm a single mum so would study around raiding dc. I can't currently get work experience whilst I raise them, but would be able to study.

How crazy am I to think that a med school, somewhere in London, would accept me, with these circumstances.

I don't have science a levels either, just languages.

Tia x

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dapsnotplimsolls · 05/05/2025 15:38

Honestly, your first step should be to buy a second-hand A level Biology textbook. If the whole thing flummoxes you, then think again.

Hwi · 05/05/2025 15:35

The fact you are asking around here point to either of the following: you are really not that interested in pursing it, otherwise you would have googled it and found it, or you are not confident in yourself. If it is the latter, then stop having so little confidence in yourself and GO FOR IT. You surely must already know there are dozens of access to medicine programs where they give a leg up to single mothers and even elderly entrants - when I found out, I asked - when will this person, heavily funded by the state on this medical course, 'repay to the society' by working on the wards? He was literally 50 when he started the course. Yet they accepted him.

Greybeardy · 05/05/2025 15:32

Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 15:26

😄 thank you, I do need to be less embarrassed about it i guess 🙈

I want to work in the operating theatre🙈 - I've never told anyone irl - the idea of healing someone really interests me and that's what I've always imagined best self as being

Have I watched too much tv, probably

Look at ODP (operating department practitioners) careers... no one's ever heard of them but anaesthetists'd be pretty useless without them...may be another option.

Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 15:26

JodyFarr · 05/05/2025 15:24

I'm sorry that happened to you

All good x

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Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 15:26

PermanentTemporary · 05/05/2025 14:33

I hope you saw the post about language teachers?

If you love the thought of healthcare (i haven't yet seen you describe what it is about healthcare that appeals) and are a languages specialist, I'd say look seriously at speech and language therapy. There's careers info at www.rcslt.org.uk or PM me if you have any questions.

But please stop worrying about that blooming Desmond! It was presumably a few years ago. Who cares?

😄 thank you, I do need to be less embarrassed about it i guess 🙈

I want to work in the operating theatre🙈 - I've never told anyone irl - the idea of healing someone really interests me and that's what I've always imagined best self as being

Have I watched too much tv, probably

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JodyFarr · 05/05/2025 15:24

Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 15:11

I'm not being a dick in my response to you, this is just what happened

I was groomed as a teenager by some grown men in my town. The rumours were crazy and my parents distanced themselves from me and said I liked the attention

When I was at uni, I'd had a full mental breakdown and couldn't get out of bed most of the time. I didn't have anyone to tell and continued being raped by my 'boyfriend'. I didn't know i was having a breakdown tbh, or couldn't accept it

After uni, I was so ashamed and thought that my parents didn't know what was wrong with me. They did, they just wanted me to go away. Managed to get a job - during which I had another breakdown. That's when I got pregnant

I've spent the time surviving and working on myself.

I'm clearly ashamed of my desmond, as mentioned upthread @JodyFarr

Now I'm doing better, I want to do something but it has to work with dc who comes first for me - and I agree, I need to be realistic and less of a romantic though 😄

I'm sorry that happened to you

Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 15:21

Greybeardy · 05/05/2025 15:19

are you fluent enough in any of your languages to do translation work? The NHS a heavy user of telephone translation services... not a scooby what the logistics of that is (presume you can work from home) but it might be worth exploring as a way to find out more about medicine/make some cash out of the skills you already have.

Thank you @Greybeardy for your helpful responses xx

I'm okay with French, but need more work on it

But I imagine in a year that I could be fluent enough to work and could try to get some work experience this way

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AthWat · 05/05/2025 15:20

Howmuchlongeruntilwegetthere · 05/05/2025 15:11

Ok, but do you have the vision of graduating medical school and then the long hard slog of decades actually working and progressing as a doctor, especially later in life? You’ve said nothing in any of your posts about actually wanting any aspects of actually being a doctor or doing something with a medical degree. Are you just romanticising it because it’s the hardest degree you can think of or something?

It’s all a bit reminiscent of when my then seven year old with autism, vision problems, severe travel sickness and a fear of heights, not to mention sole British citizenship, was absolutely determined he was going to be a fighter pilot in the US Air Force. Sometimes you actually can’t be anything you want to be. There’s a lot of bravery in admitting that some doors are closed to you and considering if there are realistic alternatives that would satisfy you.

Well if Pete Hegseth can be Secretary of Defence, I don't see why your son shouldn't apply now, even if he's still seven.

Greybeardy · 05/05/2025 15:19

Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 15:16

I wonder whether I've got time to at least challenge myself a little and see what I can do

Dc's 6

I could start with some science a levels and see how I get on, along with improving my languages

That's probably the most realistic option for me right now

are you fluent enough in any of your languages to do translation work? The NHS a heavy user of telephone translation services... not a scooby what the logistics of that is (presume you can work from home) but it might be worth exploring as a way to find out more about medicine/make some cash out of the skills you already have.

Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 15:18

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/05/2025 14:28

There is nothing even remotely embarrassing about wanting to pursue a dream, OP. It is a good thing to have aspirations.

Thank you ❤️

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KnickerFolder · 05/05/2025 15:18

KeenDuck · 05/05/2025 14:47

God help us all 😳

Don’t worry, @KeenDuck 😂 They don’t learn on the job! The apprentices go to med school, they just spend their vacations working in non clinical roles for the trust that is paying for their degree eg as porters/ward clerks, discharge planners, admin assistants, clinical coding assistants etc.

Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 15:16

I wonder whether I've got time to at least challenge myself a little and see what I can do

Dc's 6

I could start with some science a levels and see how I get on, along with improving my languages

That's probably the most realistic option for me right now

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Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 15:14

KnickerFolder · 05/05/2025 15:00

It’s not impossible if you really want to do it. You wouldn’t be eligible for the fast track graduate medicine schemes but you could apply as an undergraduate. You would probably need to do an Access to Medicine course (you need to check if the med schools you are applying to accept it as a qualification and which specific courses they accept - there is more than one provider). Here is the med schools council link with entry requirements:

MSC

You would also need some work experience. I agree with a PP that bank work as an HCA is probably the best way to gain insight into a career in medicine and what it’s really like working for the NHS.

Med school is hard work but it is largely 9-5, so childcare shouldn’t be too much of an issue. You won’t get long university vacations in the later years, so you would need some school holiday childcare.

Juggling a family as a resident doctor when you will be working long hours, weekends and nights will be the real challenge. You may have to relocate. Your DC will be much older then though. Once you have done your foundation years training, there are some specialties that are more family friendly than others. If you can actually get a training contract…

Thank you, will take a look 🙌

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AthWat · 05/05/2025 15:14

JodyFarr · 05/05/2025 14:54

How do people even get 2.2s bar extenuating circumstances?

How indeed! Everyone should get a first or a 2.1 or the system is meaningless! Imagine having 3 grades that people could get! 3!

It's as if there was any grade other than A or B at GCSE. Madness!

Zone2NorthLondon · 05/05/2025 15:11

AnnaFrith · 05/05/2025 14:31

Lots of people on this thread don't actually know what they're talking about.
Nottingham will definitely accept people on the Graduate Entry course with a 2.2 in a non-science subject.

You will need to learn enough science to pass GAMSAT, and a high enough IQ to get a really high overall score. Have a go at some sample papers. If you get high scores easily you have a good chance of getting in.

Yes but she specifically stated she has to remain in London
So other courses in other locations have different criteria,how’s that relevant to London based potential applicant?

Howmuchlongeruntilwegetthere · 05/05/2025 15:11

Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 14:27

Thank you @catlovingdoctor ❤️

I was about to upload a photo of my cat but I remembered my name change!

This was my thinking. I love writing and reading but can grasp the science aspects but just not a maths whizz. My love of reading does make me a romantic though, which I feel I'm doing about this journey

Will search the doctor on YouTube

i just have this vision of my dc being 18 and going off to see the world and me graduating med school

Ok, but do you have the vision of graduating medical school and then the long hard slog of decades actually working and progressing as a doctor, especially later in life? You’ve said nothing in any of your posts about actually wanting any aspects of actually being a doctor or doing something with a medical degree. Are you just romanticising it because it’s the hardest degree you can think of or something?

It’s all a bit reminiscent of when my then seven year old with autism, vision problems, severe travel sickness and a fear of heights, not to mention sole British citizenship, was absolutely determined he was going to be a fighter pilot in the US Air Force. Sometimes you actually can’t be anything you want to be. There’s a lot of bravery in admitting that some doors are closed to you and considering if there are realistic alternatives that would satisfy you.

AthWat · 05/05/2025 15:11

catlovingdoctor · 05/05/2025 14:37

Nope, I think she did / retook her GCSEs in her mid-thirites then did an access course. She had no formal education beyond that of a school-leaver.

Well thats the thing, the access course is in the same space as A levels, done off the back of relevant GCSEs, The fact she hadn't done any formal education beyond school makes her very different from someone who went through the standard university route and didn't do terribly well, and has done nothing since.

Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 15:11

JodyFarr · 05/05/2025 15:00

I mean I can. But like I'm asking the OP why she ended up with a 2.2

I'm not being a dick in my response to you, this is just what happened

I was groomed as a teenager by some grown men in my town. The rumours were crazy and my parents distanced themselves from me and said I liked the attention

When I was at uni, I'd had a full mental breakdown and couldn't get out of bed most of the time. I didn't have anyone to tell and continued being raped by my 'boyfriend'. I didn't know i was having a breakdown tbh, or couldn't accept it

After uni, I was so ashamed and thought that my parents didn't know what was wrong with me. They did, they just wanted me to go away. Managed to get a job - during which I had another breakdown. That's when I got pregnant

I've spent the time surviving and working on myself.

I'm clearly ashamed of my desmond, as mentioned upthread @JodyFarr

Now I'm doing better, I want to do something but it has to work with dc who comes first for me - and I agree, I need to be realistic and less of a romantic though 😄

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dapsnotplimsolls · 05/05/2025 15:06

A pp suggested Speech and Language Therapy - what about that? You could do an OU Access course first without needing science A levels.

Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 15:05

PrimevalStomp · 05/05/2025 15:01

@Changednameadviceneededxx there is a dedicated Mature Study and Retraining board on MN - full of threads recounting people’s queries, doubts, experiences and outcomes. Really your first step into a new career should be to read about fifty of those threads to get an idea of all the issues people face when considering re-training as parents. There are plenty of triumphs there too - but they’re based on solid research, not daydreaming. I hope you’ll find something that inspires a viable route for you.

See here:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/mature_students

Thank you for this x

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OneQuirkyPanda · 05/05/2025 15:05

Post graduate medicine is statistically more competitive than undergrad, since there are more people applying for fewer places.

I think as things stand now you don’t have a cat in hell’s chance of getting onto a course. As others have said, if you are serious you should consider an access course and obtaining relevant work experience.

Changednameadviceneededxx · 05/05/2025 15:04

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/05/2025 14:27

Let go of any regrets about your degree classification. It is just a number, ultimately, and doesn't reflect on who you are or what you can do.

It's fine to want to pursue your own career. You just need to find something that is attainable given your current circumstances.

I may be wrong but I think funding is available for second degrees in nursing, so that might be an option to consider? However, you'd still have the challenge of childcare and shift work etc, so that might not be feasible at the moment either. How old are your dc?

Thank you 😢

They're 6 - the thing is, I've looked at nursing and as tough and rewarding as it is, it's not for me

Don't know why but I keep on coming back to this doctor dream

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Daisy62 · 05/05/2025 15:03

What about looking at an access to healthcare course - so you’d get some science education, placements and exposure to different healthcare career options. It doesn’t close the door on medicine but is a start on the sciences while introducing possible more realistic career options.

pitterypattery00 · 05/05/2025 15:02

I teach first year medical students. In my group of 12 each year, there's probably an average of 1 mature student. They are usually early-mid 20s and have recently finished a first degree (often with a science degree, but there was one with a law degree) or be slightly older and this is their first degree. Majority are still in their 20s but last year I had a student who I'd estimate was late 40s if not older.

Life experience is a huge benefit in the study and practice of medicine and all the mature students I have taught have been highly motivated and done well. But, and it's a huge but - the course is full on, and moves at a fast pace. You would have to be honest with yourself about the time you could commit over many years (it's not just the 5 years of uni, but the training years afterwards). It's a cliche but medicine is definitely a marathon not a sprint.

In terms of getting on to a course in the first place, you would need appropriate A levels or have done an appropriate access course. Universities will differ in their entrance requirements, check out their websites or contact them. Irrespective of qualifications, you will need relevant work experience, paid or voluntary. Again, check with the university what they require.

PrimevalStomp · 05/05/2025 15:01

@Changednameadviceneededxx there is a dedicated Mature Study and Retraining board on MN - full of threads recounting people’s queries, doubts, experiences and outcomes. Really your first step into a new career should be to read about fifty of those threads to get an idea of all the issues people face when considering re-training as parents. There are plenty of triumphs there too - but they’re based on solid research, not daydreaming. I hope you’ll find something that inspires a viable route for you.

See here:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/mature_students

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