To want Brexit be reversed

So tired and clichéd, good imagination though, I'll give you that!

So defensive- I wonder why.

Democracy includes the right to change your mind.

Unfortunately leave voters have denied the rest of us that right because we'll never be allowed back in now.

Oh dear, Remain voters were also targeted, because many of those were completely ignorant and were hoodwinked by the ever so impartial
MSM reporting. . I still laugh at the comments of the people sat at the next table in a cafe the day after the Brexit vote. Their main concern was being able to holiday in France, apparently after Brexit this was going to be near impossible. They did console themselves with the following comment “ Well we can still holiday in Brittany because that’s part of the UK”. I almost spat out my coffee.

So what you’re saying is you would like to override the principle of democracy because your son wants to study abroad - which he can do and as he is “really bright” he will be able to work this out. People study in other countries all the time.

Food prices have gone up across the world.

You've hit the nail on the head, middle class belittling the working class as usual. Sorry Matilda can't study abroad but the majority of us have real world problems.

I really dislike this sneering viewpoint. The irony is many middle class kids will have parents who can pay for visas, or, who have EU passports... It is the working class kids who have been more affected. But it is preferable to mock according to your own bias. Brexit has limited the limited in terms of our youth. To deny it is disgraceful. To mock it makes you cheap.

Please, access some therapy for your own sake.

You may not want it to be true but the reality is Leave Voters were identified and targeted relentlessly, they were attacking voters who would fall for the superficial, feverishly hostile soundbites and unfortunately they won by a margin!

Except, of course, you could say the same about the decades of campaigning to leave the EU that went on before the last referendum - there had been a democratic decision to join, after all. Brexiters are merely experiencing the sort of tiresome, incessant whingeing that Remainers experienced for decades before them.

Imho, the UK would not get a good deal on rejoining, certainly not compared to its status within the EU when it left. Trying to rejoin would just create yet more instability and money being wasted on trying to go backwards, and the harm to Europe has already been done in any event - the world is firmly set on a course of becoming more divisive, with countries uncertain who to trust and rely on any more. Brexit was more than enough confirmation of the weakness of Europe for Putin, who publicly declared how delighted he was with Brexit at the time. I think the UK is now better off accepting it is out of the EU, but with close, cordial and constructive co-operation, rather than indulging in the pathetic schoolboy behaviour the Government indulged in when negotiating the Brexit deal.

I can’t have this conversation again. If you are still banging on all these years later, maybe it is time to reflect on your own issues now. It’s not healthy or normal.

The U.K. government of any colour is never ever going to reverse a democratic decision. It just isn’t going to happen.

Maybe it’s time for some of you to think about therapy and a deeper dive into why this troubles you so much nearly a decade later.

Yeah right - wishful thinking!

I don’t think we should try to join the EU, but we absolutely should work towards close collaboration and improving trade links. The EU is lurching further to the right and the world, including the EU, is very unstable politically. I think it is a good thing for the UK to be independent, but readily accept the economic price for this is very high.

Every Brexit supporter I have ever known has been uncomfortable with the European direction of travel for twenty years plus, it has nothing at all to do with micro targeting and everything to do with the amount of control and power that has been handed over to Brussels over the years!

You really seem quite unable to grasp the root causes of our departure, and after ten years of explaining - to no avail - most of us have given up!

So did you base your decision on your friend shitting in a bucket?

Why would Remain Voters have to convince Brexit Voters of anything, that was the job of the politicians.

Equally, it is very naive to think that Brexit voters were not vulnerable to micro targeting and that is what swung the vote - unfortunately!

Precisely. My guess is that's why they had to resort to insults! 🤷‍♀️

But if the EU was so good and so beneficial to the UK, the remain campaign could have listed them.

Yet the didn't, The Brexit campaign was bad/awful but the remain campaign was awful/none existent.

How could remainers put forward their arguments? Like 'you, Paul, a plumber, should put up with cash-in-hand uninsured competition from a Polish plumber, because my Sebastian would like to use Erasmus for one year for free? Or, I run a business and need Polish workers who would undercut you, Dave. How could they have put their arguments forward?

Bravo x 10. The EU was the EU worth staying in when it had equally developed members in in - i.e. Western Europe. As soon as it started admitting all sorts of poor relatives - the Baltics, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary - it was time to run away. I have a Bulgarian friend, who told me how they literally shat in buckets and then buried the shit in the ground in agricultural areas before the EU - and how they were looking forward for proper sewage pipework to be installed there. They received close to a billion from the EU for it - some areas in Bulgaria installed those facilities, in some areas the authorities stole the money and they still shit in buckets. This is not the club to be in. Also, the EU accounts have been rejected by the auditors for how many years now? The corrupt club is not the club to be in.

"I never thought the leopards would eat my face"

Oh right. You think people voted Brexit, which was a stupid thing to do, because Remainers told them it was a stupid thing to do before they voted for it.🤔

But that's precisely my point: Remainers didn't just put the case across for why Brexit was a stupid thing to do. They insulted, ridiculed and sneered at anyone who disagreed.
Any sense they may have made during their campaign was completely lost in this disgusting behaviour. And is ultimately what gave votes to Brexit.

The NHS has had a real funding lift of over that though? @Clavinovaput up the figure below.

The tricky part is the NHS can always do with more, so even with that increase they’ll be asks for it.

Good attempt at making out people who voted LEAVE are just less intelligent and ignorant, and didn't know what they were voting for la la la. Wrong though. People didn't vote to leave the EU because they're stupid, and believed everything they were told, they left because they wanted to leave.

They wanted to leave the big boys club that has done ZERO for them in several decades, the club that used to have less than 10 members, who all contributed something and pulled together so we could trade easier. That same club has nearly 30 members now - most of who are supported financially by the top 7 or 8 who keep them afloat. Some countries want to join the EU, not because they like it, or really want to, they NEED to, as they need financial support.

Millions of Brits had not seen any positives to being in the EU for several decades, and were tired of the bossy and controlling boys club that they were never really a part of, but supported via their taxes. (The big boys club that controlled much of what the UK did.) Forking out £350 million a WEEK for something that only benefits top businessmen, and big companies, is utterly bonkers.

We had people on the bones of their arse through recession after recession with wages staying stagnant for around a decade, (at the time to the referendum,) many jobs offering no more hours than 8-10 a week, no job security, zero hours contracts, very little for the young to look forward to, gigantic student fees for uni, and skyrocketing house prices, and people with nowhere with a secure tenancy to call their home, and we were dishing out £1.2 BILLION a month to the EU.

Very little has changed since we left, (as I said, the cost of living crisis/recession is a WORLDWIDE issue caused by the covid pandemic, and is nothing to do with Brexit!) and trading with Europe is not much different. Also, there is no difference when you travel, except you now need at least 3 months on your passport. Big deal, anyone with any sense would make sure they had that anyway. Oh and we are saving £350 MILLION a week.

I just thank GOD we left the EU just before covid, because we needed that money then, and we had control of how we got the vaccines. Way more people would have died if the EU had been controlling us, because we would not have been able to order all the 100s of 1000s of vaccines that we did to get them to the British public. The EU would have been in control.

The way the EU behaved after we LEFT was utterly appalling. Threw their toys out of the pram and stamped their feet. And the way the Remainers behaved was not much better, doing everything they could to derail Brexit, and reverse the decision. The DEMOCRATIC decision. Because apparently everyone who voted Leave is thick as too short planks, and bigoted, and badly educated according to them.

The EU weren't angry because they cared about us though, they cared about the money we were withdrawing. They acted like a spurned and angry ex who was being dumped. I was embarrassed for them. Why anyone would want to be a part of this just eludes me.

And a previous poster is right that the LEAVE camppaign did not offer to give the NHS £350 million a week to the NHS. It said 'let's keep the £350 million a week in the UK. let's fund our NHS.' It's just the REMAIN side who peddle this myth.

It's time the Remainers stopped this ridiculous game of laughing at and calling people who voted to leave the EU 'thick' bigoted' and badly educated. Frankly, if you really genuinely think this, I'm embarrassed for you. 😬

It's also much easier to make an argument for a change to the status quo, because people know what the current situation looks like but you can say anything you like about the alternative.

Because people are often attracted to things that are presented as simple solutions to complex problems, and they don't always have the ability or understanding to analyse whether those simple solutions will actually deliver the results that they want.