To want Brexit be reversed

People, you must be patient and wait for the full benefits of Brexit to manifest themselves.

50 years was it that Jacob Rees Mogg said? That's not too long really 😊

Whatever our housing, public services, labour market, benefits system etc. are designed to absorb.

I don't know how you would quantify the above but we don't have enough young people to support the ageing population. So if it's no immigration, then we need to raise taxes & means test/move out the state pension. What other options are there?

People voted for Brexit due to the drop in living standards and quality of life.

Can't just reverse it because we've changed our mind. I voted remain and never believed any shit about what we were promised and I don't think those promising it did either, it just suited their political ends. But we've left now and who says the EU would ever want us back? Nor that the great British public would vote that way, given how much more myopic its got since. So YANBU to want it and recognise the problems its brought, but YABU to imagine it's viable.

Well said. Changes are not always apparent overnight. We will only get our fishing rights back overtime unless KS is stupid enough to sign them away again.

BTW some eu counties are in recession, we are teetering, eu citizens are not happy and the financial thrust of Europe is essential Germany and then France and Germany is really struggling.
So....

How has it helped?

@Whippetlovely but Reform isn't going to make the average person better off. Do people who vote Reform care about that?

BREXIT has been a disaster, and anyone with any sense would have known this.

It will never be reversed, as UK would then have an even worse deal this time around. We would also have the same chaos and instability that we are having now.

But now, years later, I really feel like Brexit hasn’t delivered what we were promised

Shock horror. People were stupid to believe their nonsense in the first place. And now you want it reversed because of your children? I voted to remain for the sake of my children. Anyone who didn't think that far ahead was really very foolish

OP you need to look at The Turing scheme. It replaced Erasmus but Tiring scheme is worldwid not just Europe. This is broadening opportunities for young people in education to travel not limiting it. The referendum was a democratic process where everyone entitled to vote could do so. More people voted to leave than to remain. You need to accept your view was not the most popular view and move on. Only another referendum would move us back in and we'd have to accept the Euro instead of the pound.

Well yes. Voted for Brexit but then followed that up by electing the Tories and Labour. That was never going to give them what they wanted. Based on the local elections they seem to have understood that now.

Calling people stupid only bites you in the backside, sorry but reform are making huge gains and it's your own fault.

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This.

People voted for it knowing that this would be the outcome. The biggest issue in my life has been occasional difficulties getting medication for my children. It has affected ADHD meds, insulin and epipens. And of course the impact on the economy affects us all.

I'm still waiting for any benefit.

For whom?

Brexit can’t be reversed- if we go back into the EU it will be on worse terms. I wish people had made the effort to inform themselves before voting. It was always going to cost us to leave the EU and it was never going to decrease immigration- we just have more non-EU immigrants, which I’m not sure people knew they were voting for.

Brexit has been a massive shitshow. The fucking irony of Cameron calling a referendum to try and unite the Conservative Party and put an end to Nigel Farage’s ambitions just shows how ridiculous the whole endeavour was. Plus it wasn’t legally binding, the government of the time didn’t actually have to enact it, but they did because they were populist arseholes. We are undeniably and provably worse off as a result of leaving Europe and although Boris and co. later tried to use Covid as a cover for our economic downfall, the fact is that the law of unintended consequences has come back to bite us on the bum. Also there is no mechanism for getting back into Europe because no one else has been stupid enough to leave before. Extra dumbo points for losing a veto we enjoyed despite our size and being outside of a system that was set up initially with a peace keeping imperative at a time when a third world war looms…

I said they are to unfold. They have started to unfold, but we aren’t anywhere near full benefits yet.
We’ve stopped paying money to the EU - given the state of the public purse at the moment, that’s a huge gain.
We can now control our own taxes - VAT on private school fees, and removing VAT on sanitary products would not have been allowed had we been in the EU.
We have stopped free movement of people - the immigration crisis across Europe would be far worse for us without this door closed.
We are deep in trade agreement negotiations with a number of countries, including the U.S., (which will protect us from the tumult of Trump’s tariff whims). Our non-EU membership has already kept our tariffs lower than those being put on EU goods and services.

There are more to come, and we won’t fully know what Brexit Britain looks like for some time due to other world events.
And Brexit was democratically decided upon.
It is unreasonable to revisit such a major decision so soon.

Inflation over last few years was more Ukraine war, and you can see it’s back down. Although Labour’s policies might see it go up.

if people want results on immigration it’ll take further ties being cut, whether people vote for that I guess we’ll see.

It was a terrible idea to start with.

It focused on Immigration concerns, as far I can see, numbers have increased not decreased, it made life difficult for EU workers to continue working in care roles, hospital settings, retail.

I don't buy anything from the UK anymore unfortunately, the delays in parcels, tax charges. I learnt a lesson buying an antique ring from Ebay.

The company I work for, buys all of our stock from suppliers in France and Denmark, it was always from the UK.

Your sentence doesn't make sense but I think I understand what you were meant to say. Being ignored turns people to more extreme parties, always has. If people's concerns of mass migration were taken more seriously I don't think brexit would have ever happened. Calling people stupid only bites you in the backside, sorry but reform are making huge gains and it's your own fault.

@Ablondiebutagoody but why do you think those at the bottom of the income scale has lost out mainly due to immigration?

Did you vote for Brexit OP?

And what’s going to happen as the last of the boomers, born in 1964, are approaching retirement and the population figures fall off a cliff?

I'm not sure why so many don't want to acknowledge the changing demographics & the economic implications of that. Is it because they would rather pretend low taxes & better services are possible?

Whatever our housing, public services, labour market, benefits system etc. are designed to absorb. I would say that currently there is no such calculation happening, no control and that net immigration of a million people per year is causing problems. Particularly for the kind of people at the bottom of the income scale who voted for Brexit and will vote Reform.