To want Brexit be reversed

@Keepingthingsinteresting

kindly explain

Were you on a different forum as there was no kindly explain on here
It was all thick, stupid racists.

It still hasn't changed much, as you complain that they haven't learnt anything.

People should look in the mirror before they call others names.

I don’t understand why people seem to think inflation is a UK problem linked to Brexit. I can only assume those people play zero attention to what is going on in the rest of the world.

The benefits of Brexit aren't going to be seen for at least a generation. Tbh, I doubt that there will be any at all because we are so much weaker as a country outside of Europe. Canada are already making alliances with the EU.

The US appear to be supporting a might is right agenda. We are a tiny country that hasn't been investing in it's military. We are so hung up on this nonsense immigration crap that we can't be an effective power. No one wants to pay for anything and still expect 5 star social services. But of course, they also don't want the cheaper workers that immigrants bring. We're doomed because we're stupid.

Farage will probably come in and then probably anyone with any level of "not white" in them may as well leave. This will cause more issues with staffing in all the care sectors and the NHS and probably a bit of a brain drain.

We're doomed and our base hatred and selfishness is why.

Agreed, it makes no sense.

I totally understand the concept of being politically homeless as I have felt like that for years. But the idea that being politically homeless might force you to vote for a far right party led by a twat like Farage?

No, this doesn't add up.

The eu is corrupt and billions of pounds goes missing.
I can't understand the logic of, our politicians are solely awful and corrupt let's get another layer of even more in accountable removed politicians to take our money??

I know quite a few Corbyn supporting Lexiters as well. No vote of 17 million plus people was going to consist of a single group, any more than the Remainers did.

@plateofdoom so you want to change the whole economic model? the vast majority of people don't pay enough for their state pension, education, healthcare. It's not unusual.

You've missed my point entirely. How can he "hate" Labour and Con but even be considering the repugnant, self-serving Farage? No sensible person chooses to jump out of the frying pan into the fire.

I think you mean English and Welsh education systems. You might want to check out how the vote went in N.Ireland and Scotland.

Then of course London - the city that maned to vote in Boris as mayor not once, but twice.

The establishment (bit of a sweeping generalisation I know) that though a simple, rather than super, majority referendum was a good idea.

This isn't true. The EU pumped loads of money into deprived areas. Remember Boris Johnson's Levelling Up pledge? That was to mitigate the damage due the withdrawal of EU funds.

The Politics of Envy was one of the divisive, scummy tactics used by the Leave Campaign to manipulate voters. It was another of their lies.

I don't think Brexit needs to be reversed in any overt way. Over time, small tweaks can be gradually made eg the proposed EU-UK agreement on structured travel to European countries to loosen up the current tight restrictions. B-Return by stealth,

Brexit was ill-informed based on biased information fed to the masses, many of whom questioned the facts and came to their own conclusion about what they believed and what sounded like polical rhetoric, I heard on the radio today that 2/3 wouldn't vote for brexit today because of all the harm they've seen it has caused, so a stealth return wouldn't be a bad thing.

I disagree with the view that it was all working class people voting for Brexit btw. And an insult to the working class if you ask me.

I happen to know plenty of upper middles - mostly the raspberry coloured cord wearing variety - who were enthusiastic supporters of leaving the EU.

Many of them received a first class education at a top private or public school, followed by Oxbridge, so what was their excuse?

OK love. But if a significant proportion of the electorate share your level of economic illiteracy, then we are sadly fucked as a nation.

And with Reform on the rise, I think we all need to be ready for things to get much, much worse.

Everyone I know who voted for brexit was for UK to be able to have their own elected officials making decision instead of European commission. That has been achieved so I'd imagine they think Brexit was a success. Nobody I know fell for any of the "lies".

While I don't support brexit (family life is a lot more difficult, having visa struggles and likely won't be able to live with my partner), I'm not sure everything can be pinned on brextit. Other eu countries are having a lot of similar problems. I also think the problem was that during the referendum the politicians didn't expect this to happen so they didn't really have a plan and all politicians are making this up as they go. And the the covid happened. While I don't agree with Brexit I think this can be made to work like with other non-eu countries but there just isn't a proper plan in place.

Also I think UK had messed up a few things while they were in EU. A lot of eu countries had limits in their freedom of movement that UK never had.

Who is left to vote for then?

Agree with @LongDistanceClara44 and @PollsCantBeTrusted. The EU is broken by over-regulation and unaccountability. We are broken by weak leaders.

Oh yeah, the EU would 'have us back,' in the blink of an eye, along with our tasty £350 MILLION a week we contributed. We were the second biggest contributer in 2017 out of 28 counties, and (along with Germany, and a few others,) we were keeping around 20 countries afloat who were taking more out than they were contributing.

No wonder people voted to leave. There was never any advantage to being in the EU, for any ordinary citizen in the UK, and it cost the country £350 million a week. Glad we left.

Brexit happened due to a mixture of hubris, exceptionalism, racism and ignorance.

And for some bizarre reason Brexit has fuelled even more of this.

…did you vote for Brexit? A lot of people who voted against Brexit foresaw many of the issues you have mentioned….hence they didn’t vote for Brexit.

I'd like us to rejoin, but it's not ready to happen yet. Tories and Labour are falling over themselves pandering to the racist idiot vote, twisting themselves into all sorts of contortions to avoid admitting that they were simply wrong about Brexit, and are wrong about immigration. Some fresh political movement - maybe arising out of a combination of youth consciousness, new media, trade unions when they finally give up on Labour, and the Green Party - needs time to emerge and develop the numbers first.

God knows how much damage will be done by then.

The people I knew who voted for it had 3 things in common:

• don't like foreign travel so don't go (not a financial issue)
• don't know how anything works but still have opinions (for example think academic research or industrial research don't need international cooperation to succeed; don't know anything about working abroad so can't fathom that year abroad thing for students, that's just 2 examples)
• casually borderline racist about things like people not speaking English, don't understand the difference between asylum seekers and economic migrants

And a fourth, I suppose: didn't really show any interest in learning about the things they don't know about, because they judged that as people talking down to them.

I honestly feel like all the power in this country is feeding towards the people who, it can't be stressed enough, are not necessarily terrible people but they don't know how shit gets done. When there are millions of people who DO know but they have been sent into this category called 'woke' or 'ivory tower' or 'typical leftie' - yet they actually are experts in things like JIT imports or vegetable freight systems aaarghghghghg it's so fucking frustrating and ultimately doomed to total failure.

I think this kind of belief was part of the problem. Working class people absolutely did benefit from being in the EU but they didn't necessarily see the EU as being the source of those benefits.

I'm involved with a number of charities that have had to cut services for deprived communities as a result of losing their EU funding. The funding from central government that was supposed to replace the EU subsidies has been woefully inadequate. The charities in question get a lot of complaints about the fact that those services are no longer running, but few people will connect the reduction in services with Brexit.

No country has complete political autonomy any more. Every country is subject to global economic trends, and global events, such as wars.

Do you really think that the UK could operate independently in the Ukraine after the way we have run down our military defence to the absolute bone?

Also how you can call the EU corrupt and not mention Boris’s government, which was one of the most corrupt we have ever had, I simply do not know!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/feb/11/uk-fails-to-improve-on-record-low-ranking-in-global-table-of-corruption

And of course when it comes to trade, where there is a will, there is a way, but the point is, at what cost to the ordinary consumer and to the economy as a whole?

And of course people like Lord Wolfson, who incidentally earns around £5 million a year, voted for Brexit because companies like Next can afford their own EU hub.

But what about the thousands of small British companies which have ceased trading with counterparts in the EU and vice versa because the cost of tax and customs is too great now we are outside of the single market?

https://www.export.org.uk/insights/trade-news/as-many-as-20-000-small-businesses-have-stopped-exporting-to-eu-since-2019-says-new-report/

The overall economic climate doesn’t look too great for the UK either tbh:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrynjz1glpo.amp

I'm still waiting to see this for the £350 million a week we were sending to the EU.😂😂😂

Brexit happened due to a mixture of hubris, exceptionalism, racism and ignorance.

Reverse all those and it would be a great UK.

Won't happen though, because of continuing hubris, exceptionalism, racism and ignorance.