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BeKookySheep · 05/05/2025 10:59

I don’t normally post about politics, but this has been playing on my mind for a while. I wasn’t super political before the referendum — just a mum trying to do her best for her family. But now, years later, I really feel like Brexit hasn’t delivered what we were promised. And I think we should seriously start talking about reversing it.

My eldest is 16, really bright, and had dreams of studying languages and maybe doing a year abroad. We looked into Erasmus a while ago, but that’s gone now. And the cost and hassle of studying or working in Europe is so much higher now. She asked me, “Why is it so much harder for us than it was for you, Mum?” And honestly, I didn’t know what to say. It hit me hard.

Everything’s more expensive — our food shop has gone up loads, and don’t even get me started on getting certain things for school packed lunches! Little things, but they add up. My brother runs a small business and he's drowning in paperwork just to send stuff to Ireland. And a friend of mine left the NHS because she felt so overstretched — they can’t recruit enough staff anymore, especially from Europe.

Brexit hasn’t made anything better. It’s just made life harder in so many small but important ways. And if something clearly isn’t working — and is limiting our children’s futures — why shouldn’t we talk about changing it?

We tell our kids it’s okay to admit when something’s not right and make it better. Maybe it’s time we took our own advice.

Would love to hear if others are feeling the same. Has Brexit made life harder for your family too?

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Perplexed20 · 05/05/2025 14:24

Dangermoo · 05/05/2025 14:22

More irony 😆 🤣 instead, let's teach our future generation to disrespect a legitimate referendum. That will stand them in great stead for their employment.

We had a referendum. Then people disrespected it and we had another one, that's how we got Brexit.

You're argument undermines democracy and honestly it's ridiculous.

Comedycook · 05/05/2025 14:23

As someone who voted to leave, I agree op!

Somethingscintilling · 05/05/2025 14:23

@lifeonmars100 then don't have people feeling ignored and hopeless??
If systems are robust and fair the majority will be OK

blindblinds · 05/05/2025 14:23

@Winter2020 why do you think the governments haven't got a handle on immigration?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 05/05/2025 14:23

Winter2020 · 05/05/2025 14:18

Nigel Farage hasn't been in power and the governments that have been have betrayed the people by being able to a very large extent to control immigration and choosing not to do so.

At this point it would almost be worth having Nigel Farage in power just to prove that Nigel Farage is a snake oil salesman and a charlatan and fucking incapable of delivering anything of any fucking benefit to Joe Public, but I fear that even then the people who voted for him would insist that there was some other very plausible reason why he had fucking failed to deliver on any of his promises which definitely had nothing to do with the fact that he's a fucking fraud.

Walkaround · 05/05/2025 14:22

Winter2020 · 05/05/2025 14:06

We don't need moving towards a million people (net) a year arriving when we have no spare housing.

Immigration for jobs is a pyramid scheme. These people and their dependents need housing, schools and teachers, hospitals doctors, nurses, bins emptying and they will also grow old. Will we ship in ever more people to care for them when they in turn grow old?

What you are basically saying is, we don’t need asylum seekers. They arrive regardless even of whether there are any job vacancies. Climate change, a growing number of countries to the extreme right, and global instability will continue to swell the numbers of genuine asylum seekers. Maybe it’s time for some honesty from those who do not want immigration - they don’t want to help genuine asylum seekers, because there are too many of them. Nor do they want to take any responsibility for the causes of mass migration. Obviously, they still want all the advantages of contact with the outside world, but want none of the disadvantages - they want to be globalist when it comes to access to useful resources, and isolationist when it comes to the downsides. They want to be like Trump - fantasising about gaining control off all the resources they need and spitting out the inconvenient humanity getting in the way of the prize.

Dangermoo · 05/05/2025 14:22

Bunny44 · 05/05/2025 14:05

Small minded people created a smaller world for our children's future... Still angry now

More irony 😆 🤣 instead, let's teach our future generation to disrespect a legitimate referendum. That will stand them in great stead for their employment.

Perplexed20 · 05/05/2025 14:22

Hwi · 05/05/2025 14:13

We should immediately surrender our sovereignty because little Timmy wants to freeload at a foreign university to study languages - because, you know, Oxford and Cambridge and Bristol and Glasgow and other universities are incapable of linguistic instruction. P.S. If little Timmy wanted to study languages, he would have been bilingual by the age of 16 just by sitting in his local council-funded library with a Lingua course with tapes/discs, occasionally dipping into the multiple available audio courses to correct/adjust his phonetics.

Soverignty was a mythical argument. Even the onservative government admitted it.

Why is Brexit founded on the politics of blame. Currently blaming politicians for not doing it 'properly'. It always ends up like this when people scrutinise it..

blindblinds · 05/05/2025 14:22

"I'm sick of coke and Pepsi so I'm going to drink piss instead."

😆

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/05/2025 14:20

AndImBrit · 05/05/2025 13:57

I’m a member of Mensa, with a masters equivalent qualification. And I speak a European language. So I’m probably more qualified and have a higher IQ than you.

I voted Brexit. Do I now get to call you stupid and inferior for voting remain?

Also there’s not been any significant consequences so far I didn’t foresee (but some surprise upsides, like the COVID vaccine rollout). In my view, the disappointment has been in the implementation and not the leaving itself.

Lol. I have always been suspicious of supposedly clever people who join Mensa. It smacks of someone that is desperately trying to prove something.

Dangermoo · 05/05/2025 14:19

Perplexed20 · 05/05/2025 14:11

Democracy is a process nit a one time thing.
If it wasnt we'd never have elections. There's no democratic reason to not revisit a decision. To argue that is saying you don't believe in democracy.

And...if you are so sure Brexit was the right thing you wouldn't worry about it bring Subject to a further vote, would you.

So you want to show this country as weak and appeasing and go cap in hand? Well wouldn't that be a great green light to see what other policies we would topple over.

Azdcgbjml · 05/05/2025 14:19

Lnew · 05/05/2025 13:21

Lab and Con have both had significant power during our lifetimes. Neither are any good and he won’t vote for them because of it. So it needs to be someone else.

I saw this comment somewhere i cant take credit for it but...

"I'm sick of coke and Pepsi so I'm going to drink piss instead."

Winter2020 · 05/05/2025 14:18

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 05/05/2025 11:37

The thing is, 50% of "the people" have below average intelligence.

Ten years ago Nigel Farage was telling everyone that Brexit would mean no more immigration, £350m a week for the NHS and sunlit uplands.

None of the benefits he promised have materialised and instead we have rampant inflation whilst wages have more or less continued to stagnate.

If you look back over the last decade and you think that continuing to put your faith in Nigel Farage is the sensible thing to do, there really is no hope for you.

Nigel Farage hasn't been in power and the governments that have been have betrayed the people by being able to a very large extent to control immigration and choosing not to do so.

Lovemybagss · 05/05/2025 14:17

I wish it would be reversed too.
My mum lives in EU and I can't even send a postcard or a small parcel of chocolates.
Last time I did it, the parcel was stuck in customs for 7 weeks and she still had to pay £30 extra customs fee on a £8 worth if chocolate!!! A total shit show!!!

MrsSkylerWhite · 05/05/2025 14:16

Hwi · 05/05/2025 14:13

We should immediately surrender our sovereignty because little Timmy wants to freeload at a foreign university to study languages - because, you know, Oxford and Cambridge and Bristol and Glasgow and other universities are incapable of linguistic instruction. P.S. If little Timmy wanted to study languages, he would have been bilingual by the age of 16 just by sitting in his local council-funded library with a Lingua course with tapes/discs, occasionally dipping into the multiple available audio courses to correct/adjust his phonetics.

Our “sovereignty” has done nothing to improve life in the UK.

Meadowfinch · 05/05/2025 14:15

In the end OP, there would have to be another referendum and the rejoin side would have to win. It would take a significant change of views by the majority for that to happen.

We moved slightly left with our last general election, much of Europe moved right so I'm not sure I would want to rejoin. And the EU has structural problems of its own. Freedom of movement is not welcome in many countries. Disagreements have surfaced.

However, we can definitely forge better links for young people - university/work exchanges etc, and better trade and defence links. That's where I'd start.

Hwi · 05/05/2025 14:13

We should immediately surrender our sovereignty because little Timmy wants to freeload at a foreign university to study languages - because, you know, Oxford and Cambridge and Bristol and Glasgow and other universities are incapable of linguistic instruction. P.S. If little Timmy wanted to study languages, he would have been bilingual by the age of 16 just by sitting in his local council-funded library with a Lingua course with tapes/discs, occasionally dipping into the multiple available audio courses to correct/adjust his phonetics.

TheKeatingFive · 05/05/2025 14:13

It should never have been put to a referendum in the first place, but what's done is done.

There's no real political route to reversing it - it's just not going to happen. The best the uk can do now is forge as good relationships with Europe as it can. Obviously that's outside the EU, but within that context.

Perplexed20 · 05/05/2025 14:12

Thephantom · 05/05/2025 14:10

She asked me, “Why is it so much harder for us than it was for you, Mum?” And honestly, I didn’t know what to say.

How about "that's how life is, and if you want something really badly you stop moaning and whinging and feeling entitled and get on with it" How about something along the lines of "make those sacrifices to get what you want. Dont expect everything to be handed to you on a platter. " There are millions of determined people across the world who travel to far away countries and migrate legally and work hard legally to achieve what they want, they don't sit at home whinging "oh mama boohoo boohoo, how life was better for the previous generations".ffs

Yes, wish it was different by all means, but we live in a democracy and the majority don't want it the way you and your darling daughter do, so best deal with it like everyone else has to.

I don't believe that's true anymore. Look at the polling, the majority think Brexit was the wrong decision.

LobeliaBaggins · 05/05/2025 14:11

International students are propping up our unis by paying double the fees of home students, and then being vilified as well by all parties.

Winter2020 · 05/05/2025 14:11

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 05/05/2025 11:29

So Brexit didn't in fact fix the problem, did it?

No - because the politicians betrayed us - having a mandate and the legal framework to reduce immigration and chose not to do so.

Perplexed20 · 05/05/2025 14:11

Dangermoo · 05/05/2025 14:03

Or reasonable to respect democracy and not be a big girl's blouse.

Democracy is a process nit a one time thing.
If it wasnt we'd never have elections. There's no democratic reason to not revisit a decision. To argue that is saying you don't believe in democracy.

And...if you are so sure Brexit was the right thing you wouldn't worry about it bring Subject to a further vote, would you.

Thephantom · 05/05/2025 14:10

She asked me, “Why is it so much harder for us than it was for you, Mum?” And honestly, I didn’t know what to say.

How about "that's how life is, and if you want something really badly you stop moaning and whinging and feeling entitled and get on with it" How about something along the lines of "make those sacrifices to get what you want. Dont expect everything to be handed to you on a platter. " There are millions of determined people across the world who travel to far away countries and migrate legally and work hard legally to achieve what they want, they don't sit at home whinging "oh mama boohoo boohoo, how life was better for the previous generations".ffs

Yes, wish it was different by all means, but we live in a democracy and the majority don't want it the way you and your darling daughter do, so best deal with it like everyone else has to.

Zebedee999 · 05/05/2025 14:09

BeKookySheep · 05/05/2025 10:59

I don’t normally post about politics, but this has been playing on my mind for a while. I wasn’t super political before the referendum — just a mum trying to do her best for her family. But now, years later, I really feel like Brexit hasn’t delivered what we were promised. And I think we should seriously start talking about reversing it.

My eldest is 16, really bright, and had dreams of studying languages and maybe doing a year abroad. We looked into Erasmus a while ago, but that’s gone now. And the cost and hassle of studying or working in Europe is so much higher now. She asked me, “Why is it so much harder for us than it was for you, Mum?” And honestly, I didn’t know what to say. It hit me hard.

Everything’s more expensive — our food shop has gone up loads, and don’t even get me started on getting certain things for school packed lunches! Little things, but they add up. My brother runs a small business and he's drowning in paperwork just to send stuff to Ireland. And a friend of mine left the NHS because she felt so overstretched — they can’t recruit enough staff anymore, especially from Europe.

Brexit hasn’t made anything better. It’s just made life harder in so many small but important ways. And if something clearly isn’t working — and is limiting our children’s futures — why shouldn’t we talk about changing it?

We tell our kids it’s okay to admit when something’s not right and make it better. Maybe it’s time we took our own advice.

Would love to hear if others are feeling the same. Has Brexit made life harder for your family too?

Could your child not go to a country outside the EU, there are many to choose from?

Hwi · 05/05/2025 14:09

You can always pay for your ds to study abroad by yourself - lots of people I know do that. Erasmus is not the only option in the world. In fact, universities in Europe are so cheap that you have to have a very good excuse not to send your son there if he wants to do it.