To want Brexit be reversed

The next few years will more than demonstrate Farage's complete lack of ability. He can't even run a party nevermind a country.🙄

Reform voters have chosen to learn the hard way. Just as most Leave voters have.

Brexit didn't make any difference to the covid vaccine.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/55163730.amp

Really? How did that work?

At least we know that institutionally racist elite universities such as Oxford and Cambridge supported Brexit.

Ironic, given that one of the charities in question has lost funding for what had been a very successful programme for getting long term unemployed people into work.

"Not everyone who voted for Brexit is racist, but every racist voted for Brexit."

Nothing to do with terrorist attacks or grooming gangs then?

YANBU - it’s been a disaster.

This is a very good point

That's not fair at all.

I'm speaking as someone who didnt vote for brexit, just to be clear.

But people were given the choice and made that choice - as was their democratic right. Just because they voted for brexit doesn't make them responsible for racist attacks. That wasn't on the ballot paper.

Clearly a Brexit related decision as the UK's ambassador to the EU explained in his letter to the European Commission;

I welcome the constructive approach to discussions between our respective teams over the last weeks to understand what UK participation in this scheme would look like, in line with both the terms of the agreement reached by participating Member States to shape this initiative, and the relevant provisions in the Withdrawal Agreement.

The Commission has responded positively to our requests for clarifications but has confirmed that it is not possible for the UK to pursue parallel negotiations with potential vaccine suppliers, meaning the UK would be required to stop its negotiations with manufacturers with which the EU launched negotiations. The Commission has also confirmed that it is not possible for the UK to have a role in the governance shaping decisions on which manufacturers to negotiate with, or the price, volume and delivery schedule negotiated.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53361906

Also, your link says;
If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.

In fact, Germany, France, the Netherlands and Italy did form an "Inclusive Vaccine Alliance” in 2020. They negotiated some early/provisional agreements with vaccine manufacturers - but then other member states made a fuss and the Vaccine Alliance members were persuaded to disband, drop their negotiations and join the EU scheme, losing their head start in the process.

https://www.politico.eu/article/vaccine-alliance-casts-shadow-over-commissions-new-strategy/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/04/german-minister-criticises-von-der-leyen-over-covid-vaccines-disgrace

Rise in racist attacks since the referendum, the racists are empowered.

But those that voted for it don't accept any responsibility for this.

Perhaps in the long run the people will be better off having jobs than charity?

I’m not saying that. The original statement was that they took the predictions on board and decided that they were worth it. I’m saying I don’t think that’s what happened.

The UK had a huge influence on decisions the EU made, and played a big role shaping in shaping it

Shouldn't have been a referendum. Referendums should be reserved for less complex issues and where the outcome isn't so wide reaching
and potentially damaging to the economy and security of the country.

Overall, I find it curious that anyone would seriously consider joining the EU. Subjecting yourself to the legal framework of a technocratic organisation in a foreign country, run by people you can’t vote out, putting them in charge of your financial, technology, telecoms sectors, environmental policy and many others besides, would be an odd decision to say the least. Unless, that is, that EU membership has such astounding benefits that it makes it all worthwhile. But we were members for 47 years and we know it doesn’t.

How about comparing the cost of rejoining with the cost of not rejoining?

Eh? What does Mensa have to do with education?

I'm saying that people choose to listen to what they want to hear and to disregard what they want to ignore, and that they are ultimately accountable for those choices.

They chose to believe the Brexiteers who were telling them that it was scaremongering and they chose to ignore the advice of most experts. I don't doubt that this is indeed incredibly common, but it doesn't let them off the hook for the choices that they made.

Unless, of course, you are implying that they were too stupid to be able to evaluate the sources of evidence appropriately?

Thats not the correct use of 'irony', btw.

Cap in hand...

Sigh...are you always this dramatic?
You mean adult, grown up conversations, We negotiate with other countries all the time.

😂 need to get back to my yoga. I can't take anymore level of irony. OP, teach your children that you can't always get what you want.

Big girl’s blouse?

🤣🤣🤣

I thought the goalposts would shift and I was right. Now it's not about a lack of education, it's one's reasons for asserting their knowledge. 😂

Because, again, they regarded it as scaremongering, as described by the groups they were aligning with. Are you saying people who hold beliefs don’t doubt experts in their field? Because that’s … incredibly common.