To want Brexit be reversed

I did think that brexit was stupid. Surely people should see what would happen, if one small country left the EU.

Its made it much harder for British people to study or travel or work in the EU.

Vote leave did not say 50 year

You mentioned riches, I just went with it. Prosperity was the word used.

About the big boost, claiming back the 4% drop in GDP would be good, don't you think?

YABU.
The benefits of Brexit are still to unfold. The whole world has been a shit show since then, due to COVID, Syria, Ukraine and now Trump. None of that is down to Brexit, in fact being outside the EU has helped more than hindered.

One of the factors was that Germany relied heavily on Russian gas

There are 26 other countries you can look at

Brexit didn’t deliver because Brexit didn’t really happen. We resigned about 10% of what was originally signed up for. It was only Brexit in name.

The benefits were promised to be there as soon as we left the EU

Were they? Many people on here quote Rees-Mogg and 50 years.

Every country had to deal with Covid and the invasion of Ukraine

Not every country was similarly affected by Covid or the energy crisis.

Vote leave promised riches

I don't remember anything about riches.

rejoiners or whatever you want to call them are not making such claims

Surely they are claiming a big boost to GDP or what's the point of rejoining?

Brexit didn’t deliver because Brexit didn’t really happen. We resigned about 10% of what was originally signed up for. It was only Brexit in name.

The benefits were promised to be there as soon as we left the EU, having all the cards, the easiest trade deals, no more red tape etc

Every country had to deal with Covid and the invasion of Ukraine.

How are we prospering outside the EU? Vote leave promised riches, rejoiners or whatever you want to call them are not making such claims.

Being outside of the EU has made the UK poorer, there is no denying that fact.

The great benefit of Brexit was enabling the country to become more extremist. Obviously, once you’ve got people to vote a particular way on the basis that it will protect them from uncontrolled immigration, no money for the NHS and straight bananas, you can move onto protecting people from money-wasting diversity, equity and inclusion strategies, a bloated, lazy public sector, benefit scroungers and unhealthy fatties who are ruining the NHS and the economy with their poor health and depravity. Then you can move onto women and their unreliability, weakness and hysteria in the workplace, their ridiculous notions of work-life balance, their harmful feminisation of men, and how they are ruining the next generation and not doing their patriotic duty of having children. Before we know it, they’ll be saying most people shouldn’t be allowed to vote, because they don’t contribute enough to this country to deserve a vote - people should do as they are told.

Brexit didn’t deliver because Brexit didn’t really happen. We resigned about 10% of what was originally signed up for. It was only Brexit in name.

We were not given a vote to join first time around, so why expect one now? FFS

Our government could have delivered Brexit and kept free movement of people. It was their choice not to and it’s so central to the European project that it shut off other opportunities too. I don’t think it was the hill to die on, but it’s the one they chose.

I think there would have to be another referendum for us to rejoin, and I wouldn’t trust the British electorate not to vote to stay out.

Yes, Germany is in serious trouble which should give pause to anyone wanting to reenter the EU.

I don’t normally post about politics, but this has been playing on my mind for a while. I wasn’t super political before the referendum — just a mum trying to do her best for her family. But now, years later, I really feel like Brexit hasn’t delivered what we were promised. And I think we should seriously start talking about reversing it.

My eldest is 16, really bright, and had dreams of studying languages and maybe doing a year abroad. We looked into Erasmus a while ago, but that’s gone now. And the cost and hassle of studying or working in Europe is so much higher now. She asked me, “Why is it so much harder for us than it was for you, Mum?” And honestly, I didn’t know what to say. It hit me hard.

Everything’s more expensive — our food shop has gone up loads, and don’t even get me started on getting certain things for school packed lunches! Little things, but they add up. My brother runs a small business and he's drowning in paperwork just to send stuff to Ireland. And a friend of mine left the NHS because she felt so overstretched — they can’t recruit enough staff anymore, especially from Europe.

Brexit hasn’t made anything better. It’s just made life harder in so many small but important ways. And if something clearly isn’t working — and is limiting our children’s futures — why shouldn’t we talk about changing it?

We tell our kids it’s okay to admit when something’s not right and make it better. Maybe it’s time we took our own advice.

Would love to hear if others are feeling the same. Has Brexit made life harder for your family too?

You are quoting the OBR's long term assumption and of course things might have been different if it were not for Covid or the war in Ukraine/energy crisis. Although I am more than happy in the event of another referendum for pro-EU economists to argue how much richer we will be if we rejoin. If the promises don't match up can we have another go at leaving within 10 years of rejoining?

BTW some eu counties are in recession, we are teetering, eu citizens are not happy and the financial thrust of Europe is essential Germany and then France and Germany is really struggling.
So....

A choice that doesn't accord with your own isn't necessarily a "stupid" choice. What is important to you may not be important for someone else.Children should not be taught to be entitled and to believe that their thinking is the only right way and that everyone else that disagrees with them is stupid.

Not quite the sunlit uplands we were promised.

The UK would prosper outside the EU said Vote Leave, instead it knocked 4 per cent from the size of Britain’s economy.

I guess it could have been worse

Brexit was an advisory vote I've really no clue why they actually went through with it people were disenfranchised with the whole situation instead of listening and working with the people to resolve the issue they threw their toys out the pram and left

Didn't the UK economy shrink by about £140 billion due to Brexit?

The UK economy hasn't shrunk, it's grown - you are thinking of studies claiming that the economy would have grown even more than it has if it were not for Brexit.