To want Brexit be reversed

They emphatically do not care about the UK, only about how much they can personally make through their connections with oligarchs.

Reform are anti-everything.🙄

We live in a post Brexit world now. Railing against the huge market right on our doorstep would be a stupid move by any political party and a disaster for the UK.

Yes but Reform will just replace the Tory party as the opposition to Labour. And they are more anti-EU than the Tories.

Many of us warned about the dire consequences of brexit and we were regularly mocked and called fear mongerers.
Well lo and behold it's been a shit show and the worse is yet to come. He have done over our younger generation and we deserve every bit of resentment they have towards us.
The only positive outcome of all this shambolic mess is that the Tories will NEVER be in the government again. The writing is on the wall for those fools.

Brexit can't be reversed.

I've no doubt that we will rejoin the EU, but it will not be on the terms we had before Brexit.

Brexit will never be reversed.

The Times (3 or 4th?) August poll 52% of the UK want BREXIT reversed.

Possibly because they are not happy with the outcome of Brexit, and think that only Nige the Fatuous Opportunist can deliver all the questionable benefits that they expected.

You keep tagging me! I don't know why you think I am a weirdo? Don't reply.

I did. I’d really appreciate you highlighting the bits you say are benefits.

Stop tagging me, weirdo.

It's utterly ludicrous.

There are no benefits.

Just the fervent imaginations of Brexit voters, all thinking different visions.

Pitiful really considering the damage they've helped to heap on the country.

So no Brexit benefits then. Just some stuff you imagine might happen 10 years from now.

19 years after the referendum.

SMH🤦‍♀️

@RoadtoVima You might like to read some of the history of the making of the EU, and what was intended by its founders. You might also like to look at how it is actually run i.e. a parliament that cannot legislate, commissioners who are unelected and must swear allegiance to the EU over their countries etc. You are funny, btw.

Go re-read the post. :)

@ARealitycheck As previously stated in my post, I gave the answer to a poster regarding what I consider likely for approximately ten years from now. It outlines the benefits I believe will come to the UK as a result of it.

You talked about what you think might happen inside the EU, referring to a “backlash” but not describing benefits to the UK.

Do you think there will be another vote in the future to join the E.U?

As previously stated in my post, I gave the answer to a poster regarding what I consider likely for approximately ten years from now. It outlines the benefits I believe will come to the UK as a result of it.

As has been shown just recently, increases to national wage also cause cost of living increases. They would not have helped with Nationals coming from eg Romania, Where the £250 a week they were earning equated to £1k in their home Country. If anything it would have made the UK even more attractive.

Don't believe many of the European Countries are becoming more insular looking? Then have a look at recent election results. A far more centric right leaning population with nationalistic beliefs is being shown time and again.

@RoadtoVima obviously has no idea of EU politics. And now Sir Keir is busy giving back our fishing grounds - the EU really, really want the fish, which are the reason Norway would not become a full member of the EU.

"Could you highlight or repost them please." - probably not, well not anything based on reality!

It only offsets 0.1% of the damage caused by Brexit itself.
Yay. Bring out the bubbles.

I’m sure some are immune to the harms of lockdowns.

Back to topic Brexit is a reality. Mn threads won’t change that.

We are unlikely to accept the Euro so unless that changes rejoining is likely out.

As can be seen from the US, it’s global capitalism you are describing, not the EU. The US is not part of the EU, but living standards are squeezed there, too, because global capitalism ensures businesses go to where the labour is cheapest, or bring the cheapest labour in. The EU ensured that more of the benefit of European trade remained within the EU as a whole, whilst working to maintain (or in poorer EU countries, improve) good employment rights and benefits, so that countries within the EU were more inclined to work with each other than compete against each other. It was a protectionist set up that also increased the bargaining power of the EU bloc as a whole with the outside world, which is why people like Trump and Putin hate the EU. The disadvantage was that it obliged EU countries to be less self-centred amongst themselves.

You need to be careful what you wish for, because with no EU, Europe is lots of countries with less individually to offer the outside world than the EU has as a whole, and once countries move their focus to more individualistic notions of protectionism and putting themselves first, you end up with what we have now - growing global instability and smaller countries being thrown about in the massive waves caused by the actions of bigger, more powerful countries. It’s countries like the US which have the clout to inflict tariffs on everyone else. The UK is not in a position to start any such trade war. Smaller countries and trading blocks just have to work out which arses are safest to lick (the answer being none of them when the world has gone into “me first” mode).

EasternStandard - as a matter of interest as you an expert or having any particular experience in these areas?

Yep. Labour did the planning. The conservatives disbanded it completely when Johnson came in.

And having worked with people who've got PTSD from seeing patients die, seeing colleagues die....people are saying it wasn't great now from some remove. A lot more people would have died and it gave space to develop a vaccine. But this is derailing the thread. Brexit was a complete distraction and is still.