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To do my daughters GCSE course work?

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LolaLouise · 05/05/2025 07:28

My daughter is adhd diagnosed, probable autism which she is still on a waiting list for years after the referral was submitted, she gets frustrated and gives up quickly, she tries, she really does, but sometimes gets overwhelmed and cant continue a task.

Her art GCSE course work is due in this week, she was very behind. I have spent all last weekend and this weekend helping her get it done. Up until now its been sitting and encouraging her, ive done some of the research whilst shes been doing the sketches needed, and then shes re-written it out, suggestions of sketches she could do, and cutting it all out so she can place everything into her book, helping her with layouts and ordering, but mostly just keeping her on track and focussed in 2 hour windows. There was one piece of art required for it to be done, she tried, for hours, yesterday to do it, but she got so frustrated and couldnt do it, its a portrait of a person. She ended up getting quite upset with the drawing and the looming deadline. This isnt the first time she has attempted it, shes been trying to draw it for weeks, but i put it to one side as she was hyperfixated on it, and in order to get everything else done, i took it off the table and said we would do that last. The sketch is needed as her final piece was based around this portrait, though her final piece was just shapes no details. The teacher has told her she absolutly must include this portrait in her project. Her final exam has already been sat so she cant just change the direction of the project now.

So ive drawn it, its not great, i can draw a bit but not even close to being skilled, but its better than what she was able to produce. She doesnt know ive drawn it last night. Ive started the shading to block out the main shadows, but it needs finishing, which she can do in the same way she has shaded all her other work, it looks vaguely like the person its supposed to be if you squint a little bit. We are going to try again today, ive even suggested to her tracing the facial structure today if we can figure a way to do it as we have no thin paper left to trace with, just really thick watercolour paper and card left. But it needs finishing today to hand in tomorrow. Then we can focus on her other much needed revision.

Her college plans do not include something even close to art related, its one drawing in amongst probably 100 others over the 2 years of project work, in the grand scheme of things i dont think it will make a difference to her grade, but her teacher has said it has to be included, so she is building it up to be the most important thing ever. I just want to help her, and ease some of her stress. Would you give her the drawing and help her finish it? Or is it too much help? Ive convinced myself if she does the shading then its no different to having traced the initial drawing, which is perfectly acceptable in her work, we just dont have the access to do that easily today. Do we try the tracing first and it that goes wrong then i just give her this one to shade over? theres a chance she has tried tracing in school on the lightboxes and they have been discarded already, as i know she traced other images.

How much help is too much, considering her SEN, but also that this is GCSE work?

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Doitrightnow · 05/05/2025 10:02

Strongly recommend the pp suggestion to draw it upside down. I find it really helps.

Or just submit her own work however poor. You said yourself that it's one picture in 100 so won't make much difference.

Don't teach your child that cheating and dishonesty is OK.

gattocattivo · 05/05/2025 10:02

This thread is ridiculous. Your title is ‘AIBU to do my daughter’s GCSE course work?’ Since then, you’ve tried to minimise the ‘doing the coursework’ to writing out a few dates on post it notes and sitting with her. So which is it? Are you doing her coursework or not?

as many of us have pointed out, it’s not helpful to any child to be pushed into a position of lying, signing to confirm their work is all their own when they know it isn’t. Don’t patronise your daughter.. she knows what’s hers and what isn’t.

neither is it good for a child to not be able to cope with not being amazing at every subject or task. So what if she struggles with art? It’s a life lesson to learn we can’t all succeed at everything and to accept that with good grace.

I would feel I was letting myself down as a parent if I submitted something of mine rather than their own work. Just let her put in hers. Encourage, praise the best effort and reassure that this is the right thing to do. Then be proud of her on results day for all her subjects, as long as she’s tried her best.

I’ve got a feeling though that you’ve already made your mind up what you’re going to do so I don’t really understand the point of posting.

and yes, I’ve also had a neurodivergent child go through GCSEs and A levels, it’s not easy knowing how to support but doing it for them isn’t the answer

Sprinklesandsprinkles · 05/05/2025 10:01

So I read the title and thought YABU, however I think you are absolutely fine. I wouldn't tell anybody of course but you have tried to support and she's don't 99% herself. When I did my GCSEs I was called up last minute to represent the country on sport , which made me miss making a display for my graphics GCSE. The class helper made if for me under instruction of the teacher!! I had done 99% and this was just an extra thag was needed but not an important piece, very similar to your situation with the portrait here

MyDeftDuck · 05/05/2025 09:58

LolaLouise · 05/05/2025 08:10

Im not doing her exam, she has done that, this is the project leading to her exam, which she sat, alone, in silence, with no help, like every other child sitting the exam.

But you are still doing her work for her………. still wrong

Bollindger · 05/05/2025 09:58

If she won't be carrying on Art, I would tell her that she can submit almost anything and it will be Ok.
Show her what you have done, get her to try and redo a copy of what you have done and remind her this is the last time she will need to do this.
Feed her what ever makes her happy put some great music on and keep reminding her one less stroke to finish the demon project..... give it a name, and remind her soon it will be finished, perfect is not need, just you get it done....

bluesinthenight · 05/05/2025 09:55

I worry for young people because they are growing up in a world where it is so easy to cheat and for it to undetectable. I abhor the kind of thing you suggest op because it doesn't help with the development of the brain at all. Struggle and challenge are part of being human. As I understand it these challenges can be magnified for people with ADHD, but there are resources to help them. You would be better off seeking out these strategies than teaching her how to cheat.

Blankscreen · 05/05/2025 09:55

Well my boss has done his son's A level geography coursework and was proudly saying he'd got an A in it!!

I think it goes in a lot but lots of people just don't admit to it.

FiveFoxes · 05/05/2025 09:54

A lot of posters on MN are fixated on children having to do everything by themselves with no help or encouragement. Real life isn't like that- the lucky children are helped and supported by their parents. You shouldn't do the work for her, but supporting and encouraging her is fine and to be commended.

You are teaching your daughter that you love her and are there for her. That is the best life lesson she can get, that she is loved.

NautilusLionfish · 05/05/2025 09:54

Thingsthatgo · 05/05/2025 09:46

I teach secondary art. I would recommend googling ‘proportions of face for drawing’ or similar. It will show you how to put in some guidelines to help your DD understand where the features should go. If the portrait isn’t facing forward you can Google ‘looking to the left’ etc.
I use it all the same for myself when drawing, as well as showing the students I teach.
If you sketch them in lightly with a pencil, you can rub them out at the end, or they disappear with the shading.
If the features are in proportion and in the right place it makes an enormous difference to the finished drawing.

Oh @Thingsthatgo you should teach me to draw. Observation drawing first then illustration. Please. It's the one thing n life I want to do but self learning and adhd are not pals

Totally misses the point

Riaanna · 05/05/2025 09:53

LolaLouise · 05/05/2025 09:29

But thats the level of support the exam boards deemed appropriate for her. Real life is also a good few years away yet, a lot can change in a few years with maturity and skills learning. Her self management and ability to focus is a long way behind her peers so she has extra support in that, why is that a problem? At the moment, this is what she needs, and it is what i and the school are doing for her. The sitting with her and keeping her on task to do her to do the work in chunks of times with regular breaks is literally the advice i got from the SEN teacher in how best to support her through the exam period.

No they’ve deemed a prompt appropriate. What you’re doing is not a prompt.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 05/05/2025 09:50

And what absorb the child with SEN whose parent doesn’t do their work for them? It’s creating an unfair playing field.
I do understand your frustrations but at the end of the day, it’s better to have unfinished work than work finished by a parent.
I can remember tutoring back in the day and a parent offered me £200 to do their child’s coursework for them. It’s not the same thing, but it goes against so much to produce a child’s work in this way.

VickyEadieofThigh · 05/05/2025 09:49

Othersideofworld · 05/05/2025 07:50

Get her to work on your drawing and I agree, it helps become her piece. Life is too short to worry about this, sometimes our kids need a little extra help to get over the line. She isn’t taking a place in an art school from someone else, she isn’t hanging her art in a gallery, just get your daughters “input/shading/touches” and go with it.

Any student discovered to have cheated potentially risks having ALL their exams disqualified.

TiredArtTeacher · 05/05/2025 09:49

moanafan · 05/05/2025 07:43

Art teacher here. If this is her exam project and she’s already sat the timed sessions (10 hours at GCSE to complete the final outcome for the project) then she cannot work on this project after that time. So if she’s taken the project home to finish this is malpractice. If the teacher has allowed her to take the project home, you need to report her as this is absolutely not allowed. The whole cohort could be disqualified from the qualification if this has happened.

If this is a different project to the exam one, then she CAN still be working on this. However, Art projects are marked holistically, so it’s very difficult to say that one particular sketch is so vitally important and must be included - Art is a journey, and the assessment objectives are looked at throughout the project. If the sketch is an important part of that journey then it is important but not necessarily essential to gaining the marks?

I’m not convinced your daughters teacher is correctly following guidelines set out by the exam board by the sounds of this!

Edited

It’s probably for Component 1, that can be worked on until the school’s internal deadline for marking.

okydokethen · 05/05/2025 09:49

What’s the point? She’ll always know you did it for her, how does it help her long term?

Thingsthatgo · 05/05/2025 09:46

I teach secondary art. I would recommend googling ‘proportions of face for drawing’ or similar. It will show you how to put in some guidelines to help your DD understand where the features should go. If the portrait isn’t facing forward you can Google ‘looking to the left’ etc.
I use it all the same for myself when drawing, as well as showing the students I teach.
If you sketch them in lightly with a pencil, you can rub them out at the end, or they disappear with the shading.
If the features are in proportion and in the right place it makes an enormous difference to the finished drawing.

Philandbill · 05/05/2025 09:45

Please don't. It's cheating and is dishonest. Why should the work of an adult be compared to that of a sixteen year old?
And I'll happily declare my vested interest here, my daughter did art GCSE last year and is doing A level this year. All of her work is her own.

MumWifeOther · 05/05/2025 09:45

In all honesty, if she’s not doing anything related to art in college if she doesn’t submit this piece and fails this subject - there will be no impact on her in the future. As long as she understands the consequences, just leave it. It’s not worth the upset honestly. Lee her focus on what she’s good at ❤️

elladella · 05/05/2025 09:44

You're creating a narritive that doesnt exist.

Par for the course on here!

Dinosweetpea · 05/05/2025 09:44

Hermanfromguesswho · 05/05/2025 08:38

Life is so incredibly hard as a parent of a child with ADHD and autism. Don’t be too hard on yourself. Remember, people with no experience of your life will not understand and will make judgments.
Id try my very best to use the sketch you’ve done as a launching pad to your daughter producing something of her own. Having the sketch there as a safety net in case she can’t do it may well be what she needs to be able to produce something herself with less pressure.
If you need to use the sketch though, just quietly use it and be kind to yourself about it.
your daughter has so many barriers to overcome to even get to the same starting point as the others. Giving her one bit of help here will just remove one of those barriers, not put her ahead.
as a fellow mum of a daughter with ADHD and autism, I see you. You are doing your best in a hard situation. You are a good Mum x

Absolutely this. You are getting a lot of judgement on here. My DD has ASD & ADHD and presents with huge demand avoidance. We aren't quite at exams stage yet but watching her with homework is heartbreaking at times, sometimes she literally can't get the words on the page (lots of screwed up paper here too!)
When she will let me I'll type while she dictates, this is also something allowed in exams as a reasonable adjustment.
You are doing your absolute best, this is not cheating, this is attempting to guide your child through a school system that causes huge trauma to many ND kids in so many different ways.

GrandmasCat · 05/05/2025 09:42

I was about to say, just get it done and get on with it but then I thought that the way grades are given in the UK, you may be cheating other students away from a passing grade so my advice is…

Instead of cheating reassure her that no one is good at everything, that she is unlikely to fail the course, that she doesn’t need it as she doesn’t plan to study art and for the same reason, that nobody would care about her grade. You don’t show your GCSE certificates when applying for a job.

Personally, your kid is not going through a uniquely difficult assignment due to her ADHD. The adhd doesn’t help but believe me, there are hundreds of art GCSE students crying or pulling their head out at this time, it is a very demanding and time consuming gcse, yet many students that join it, they choose it because they think it will be easy or just like a crafts leisure class.

My son is studying a science degree in a top ten university, he got a 4 in German and I can assure you, nobody cares… and for what is worth he still know more German than most people so.. it is all about helping them to gain perspective.

Heidi2018 · 05/05/2025 09:42

It's one piece of work. If this was repeated, then yeh I would say you aren't teaching her good things for the long term but in this case, one piece of work won't effect her long term

CautiousLurker01 · 05/05/2025 09:41

I understand why you are motivated to do it, but I think the issue will be that a) your DD may one day tell people that the work was not hers which may create all sorts of fall-out and b) because she knows it is not hers, it will undermine her self esteem and feed the sense of failure you are trying to avoid.

It’s not an essential GCSE for her future plans, having 8 GCSEs rather than 9 is immaterial at UCAS level, I would simply sit with her and say that if she want to bail on this one and focus on her other GCSEs (which I assume she needs to be revising for right now), I’d tell her you support dumping this one. Sometimes making decisions - to prioritise the rest of her GCSEs and park this one because it is adding a layer of stress she cannot manage right now - is the sensible and adult way.

It’s unfortunate that you’ve not got an Autism diagnosis in hand as it would have provided scope for an extension and other accommodations… but in the grand scheme of things GCSEs are really not that important once you have A Levels/degree. They are just a stepping stone to those qualifications… and sometimes you need to side step or jump over the odd stone along the way.

QuickPeachPoet · 05/05/2025 09:38

No way! It’s cheating. She needs to learn to get things done by the deadline and not have temper tantrums and screw things up. That won’t be tolerated in the workplace. She will just get fired.

Whyherewego · 05/05/2025 09:37

LolaLouise · 05/05/2025 09:34

Far from it, she has over 40 pages of work completed in the project, shes is hyperfixated on this one drawing.

In which case OP, just do whatever is needed to get this done and off her mind today. If that's you doing a starter sketch and her finishing then do that.
Her SEN means that if she's fixated on this then she won't be doing other revision etc so theres a bigger picture here. Just help her over the line

LolaLouise · 05/05/2025 09:34

Whyherewego · 05/05/2025 09:31

OP you're getting quite a hard time here I think
I know a lot of parents who have helped with coursework for GCSE. My son was struggling to get one of his things done on time and so whilst he worked on one but, I did a non essential but helpful thing to help him out.
My view is if overall it's not material to the final grade ie the substance of the work is theirs and you've helped on bits here and there, then that's fine. So a quick basic sketch of a face and she finishes off the shading and the rest so she can submit something seems OK to me. It doesn't sound like this is the main/only part of this project ?

Far from it, she has over 40 pages of work completed in the project, shes is hyperfixated on this one drawing.

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