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Karma has finally happened

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stupidstupidstupidgirl · 04/05/2025 21:22

Have name changed for this as don’t want it connected with my current name.

Roughly 7/8 years ago I finally found the courage to leave a very abusive relationship. I had to get a restraining order and move house to get rid of him. He was always threatening to kill himself if I left and would send me pictures of pill packets etc.

Anyway, fast forward, to the other day and I find out on the grapevine that he’s not only having tests for cancer but he’s also fucked his insides and will be on medication for life.

AIBU that karma has finally happened to offset the hurt/drama and general chaos he caused including DV.

I’ve not thought of him for years and this bought back quite a lot of horrible memories. I never sought revenge and have lived my best life since leaving him.

OP posts:
funinthesun19 · 05/05/2025 11:38

Cancer isn’t something to feel smug about. People are dying from it and losing loved ones because of it. And here you are using the idea of cancer as a comfort and a convenience for your own growth. Awful.

stupidstupidstupidgirl · 05/05/2025 11:33

Never2many · 05/05/2025 11:21

This.

Bad things happen to all sorts of people. And our reaction to those things depends on what kind of person they are.

Just because someone thinks that getting cancer is a just desserts for their previous actions doesn’t mean they wish it on everyone.

You’re absolutely right - there’s no way I would wish cancer or any other horrible disease on anyone however this man stole 4 years of my life and almost killed me, he broke my spirit, was extremely controlling and coercive. It took years to get back to myself and heal.

He almost made me lose my family (luckily they stuck by me) and caused all my friends to leave. I also almost lost my son…the list goes on.

OP posts:
BogRollBOGOF · 05/05/2025 11:27

If he's fucked his own body up by fucking around with it, that's the natural consequences/ karma.

It's pretty normal to feel Schadenfreude at someone who was so awful to you finally facing consequences of their appalling behaviours.

Never2many · 05/05/2025 11:21

JamieCannister · 05/05/2025 09:00

I suspect that you have a good insight into whether you are a decent human being or a violent domestic abuser, and that will help inform you whether the people around you are praying for your recovery or secretly gloating.

I can only assume that you are the former and wish you all the best in your treatment - it is a truly horrific disease.

This.

Bad things happen to all sorts of people. And our reaction to those things depends on what kind of person they are.

Just because someone thinks that getting cancer is a just desserts for their previous actions doesn’t mean they wish it on everyone.

Never2many · 05/05/2025 11:19

Gloriia · 05/05/2025 09:17

'Let’s take the cancer element out of the equation shall we? This man has, in fact, paid the actual price for the abuse he inflicted on the OP. And actually, he deserves 0 sympathy for that.'

Cancer is mentioned in the actual op.

Who is giving him sympathy? No one.

It was, but so has the fact that he’s fucked his innards by repeatedly pretending to commit suicide.

PP asked what consequence he’s faced for his actions, and that is a consequence.

And if the cancer is a result of that then yes, he deserves it.

JandamiHash · 05/05/2025 11:11

Well I’m happy OP. Such virtue signalling twats on here. I wish more abusive men had what was coming to them

stupidstupidstupidgirl · 05/05/2025 11:03

Those posters who have said I’m gleefully posting online about this are quite wrong. I’ve always used MN as a safe space, I did post about him trying to commit suicide and lots said it was only for show and to ignore.

It took a long time (a couple of years) and a lot of therapy to finally be free of him and his ways. Even when I left he made it very difficult and reported me to lots of agencies to try and get back at me.

I never retaliated other than getting the restraining order. Which he kept loitering just outside the boundary hence why I moved house.

OP posts:
Magentaflies · 05/05/2025 09:56

nomas · 05/05/2025 09:03

Yes, I know, but I know most people here associate it with Buddhism. But thanks anyway.

Do they? I’ve always associated it with Hinduism.

Lovelysummerdays · 05/05/2025 09:49

I do think part of the problem is there seems to be little justice for victims. So many people (mainly men) get away with committing acts of violence, abuse, rape all with out consequence.

I do think it’s natural to want justice and in the absence of legal justice for the perpetrators to want to attribute stuff to a sense of natural justice or karmic retribution. People have been doing it for millennia. Life doesnt really work that way. Some people are awful human beings but will sail through life never having any real consequences, (ahem Prince Andrew) sometimes legal justice catches up with you. Some very good people will suffer horribly.

I believe that we should strengthen the legal justice system so that perpetrators face proper consequences in a timely manner.

Gloriia · 05/05/2025 09:17

'Let’s take the cancer element out of the equation shall we? This man has, in fact, paid the actual price for the abuse he inflicted on the OP. And actually, he deserves 0 sympathy for that.'

Cancer is mentioned in the actual op.

Who is giving him sympathy? No one.

IndigoViolent · 05/05/2025 09:17

Our lives were very tough for some time but never once did I wish cancer on him, sorry OP but I actually find that rather wicked.

Oh boo bloody hoo. I find trying to emotionally blackmail someone into staying into an abusive relationship “rather wicked” too.

Never2many · 05/05/2025 09:04

BlondiePortz · 05/05/2025 07:28

You have said "Maybe using the term karma was wrong but he never faced any consequences of his actions until now." other than getting cancer what consequences has he faced?

Have people missed the fact that it isn’t just about cancer?

The OP has stated that during their relationship he used to take just enough drugs not to kill himself but would play the suicide card as an emotional abuse tactic. That being aside from him trying to kill her, you know.

And as a direct result of his doing this, he has now fucked up his organs to the point he will be on meds for the rest of his life.

Let’s take the cancer element out of the equation shall we? This man has, in fact, paid the actual price for the abuse he inflicted on the OP. And actually, he deserves 0 sympathy for that.

And for all we know perhaps this has also led to him having cancer, in which case he’s brought that on himself as well.

nomas · 05/05/2025 09:03

Magentaflies · 05/05/2025 07:47

It’s actually a Hindu term and concept in origin. Buddhism originated in India and absorbed the concept from Hinduism.

Yes, I know, but I know most people here associate it with Buddhism. But thanks anyway.

JamieCannister · 05/05/2025 09:00

Berlinlover · 05/05/2025 08:24

I was diagnosed with cancer just over a year and a half ago. I’ve gone through absolute hell after having four surgeries and chemotherapy. I hope nobody is gloating about my misfortune the way you are about your ex.

I suspect that you have a good insight into whether you are a decent human being or a violent domestic abuser, and that will help inform you whether the people around you are praying for your recovery or secretly gloating.

I can only assume that you are the former and wish you all the best in your treatment - it is a truly horrific disease.

Gloriia · 05/05/2025 08:58

'Under the religious belief of karma, one absolutely can get cancer as a result of bad karma in a previous life. Being born with a disability also.'

Most people do not refer to the religious belief, rather the common interpretation that we hope some get their comeuppance.

It is fine to hope people people who have treated us badly are miserable but it is highly insensitive to call cancer karma.

JamieCannister · 05/05/2025 08:56

Astrabees · 05/05/2025 07:42

Karma is a religious concept, not some fancy way of saying what goes around comes around. Generally if you lead a life which does not involve kindness this stifles in you all the things that might bring you contentment and satisfaction if you were a "better person." I think you need to show yourself a little kindness and acknowledge you don't need these bitter feelings to make yourself feel better, because in reality taking pleasure from someone having cancer is going to bring karma your way in the sense that you will not be able to feel free and happy while you have these feelings.

I think you need to show her a little kindness and acknowledge that OP is allowed to feel however she feels

JamieCannister · 05/05/2025 08:54

HideousKinky · 05/05/2025 07:34

I agree with Barrenfieldoffucks cancer is not some sort of karmic payback.
Construing illness as any sort of punishment is a really destructive way of thinking.

Cancer is in and of itself not some sort of karmic payback... but sometimes it feels like it when it happens to manipulative violent abusers

Magentaflies · 05/05/2025 08:51

TeenyTotAndTiny · 05/05/2025 08:48

There you go again, misconstruing things. Carry on with your little rant if you have got nothing better to do. I stand by what I have said and won’t be reading any more of your drivel.

Resorting to insults confirms my interpretation was correct.

Magentaflies · 05/05/2025 08:50

stupidstupidstupidgirl · 05/05/2025 08:12

The people I do feel sorry for are any future women that he snares. He’ll use this medical thing to his advantage and leech off others like he did me. He really is the epitome of an abusive man and dangerous with it.

Absolutely this. I know a man who I know is out there right now, manipulating other women, abusing them.

If he died I’d think it was just and I’d be glad he was finally stopped from hurting future women.

TeenyTotAndTiny · 05/05/2025 08:48

Magentaflies · 05/05/2025 08:37

It was a plain reading of what you said. If you meant to say something else, you need to improve your communication

There you go again, misconstruing things. Carry on with your little rant if you have got nothing better to do. I stand by what I have said and won’t be reading any more of your drivel.

Magentaflies · 05/05/2025 08:46

Gloriia · 05/05/2025 08:10

Yes just awful that is seen as 'karma'.

Karma would sure of have been if he'd gone on to be treated badly in a relationship himself and realised the errors of his ways.

Cancer is not karma. I realise you have backtracked op but I'd ask for this to be removed as it is really offensive for those who have suffered cancer.

Under the religious belief of karma, one absolutely can get cancer as a result of bad karma in a previous life. Being born with a disability also. Anything really. Karma is a way of explaining why things happen. Why good things happen to bad people, and bad things happen to good people. It’s a way of trying to impose a system of justice on an apparently unjust world.

I know someone who believes in karma and for her it’s a comfort to believe her traumatic experience of violence was due to bad karma accumulated in a previous life. For her, this is a more comforting explanation than it just being random, and therefore, in her mind, ‘unjust’.

It doesn’t work as an explanation for me, but it works for other people.

ticktockali · 05/05/2025 08:40

The lasting effects of domestic abuse are also terminal. I agree with the OP.

Arancia · 05/05/2025 08:39

sprigatito · 04/05/2025 22:55

I don’t condone the schadenfreude either, but…your post implies that animal cruelty is worse than cruelty to the OP. Which is weird Confused

Yeah, I was going to ask the poster:

Why does animal abuse warrant "justification", but woman abuse does not? Are you saying animals are more worthy of justice than women are?

Arancia · 05/05/2025 08:38

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Magentaflies · 05/05/2025 08:37

TeenyTotAndTiny · 05/05/2025 08:04

You like to misconstrue things don’t you. 🙄

It was a plain reading of what you said. If you meant to say something else, you need to improve your communication