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Will she get sick from eating this and AIBU for being a little pissed off?

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Friends1996 · 04/05/2025 11:33

I had a hospital appointment yesterday and couldn’t take DD with me (she has autism and doesn’t cope in hospital environments).

I left her at home, with my grandparents (early 70’s, still fit and active, etc) and my sister (28 years old). She is quite easy to look after, as she just goes off and does her own thing and only really needs supervising.

I spoke to my grandparents today who said that she was complaining that the chicken in the fridge was spicy yesterday when she was eating it. I then realised that these (linked below) were what she was talking about and that all 3 of them have let DD eat it raw!

I did get a little bit pissed off because firstly, it’s obviously a packet of chicken that needs cooking and it says it right on the front. Secondly, DD kept telling them that it needed cooking and they just ignored her and thought they knew better.

Will this make her sick and unwell? She ate I would say maybe a small filet of it? And AIBU for being pissed off at all 3 of them for making such a stupid mistake and not checking properly?

https://www.aldi.co.uk/product/roosters-hot-spicy-chicken-tenders-000000000580751002

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AthWat · 04/05/2025 14:40

AquaPeer · 04/05/2025 14:39

They have been selling flash fried raw chicken tenders with flavoured breadcrumbed coatings in supermarkets since 1975?!

really? Just think about that for a second. It’s clearly not true.

They didn't call them "chicken tenders" but yes. And probably not "flavoured" breadcrumb coatings. But uncooked chicken with breadcrumb coatings that "looked cooked" since 1975, yes, I would think so. Certainly since the 1980s when I would have started shopping for myself.

AquaPeer · 04/05/2025 14:39

AthWat · 04/05/2025 14:37

Because they have. Do you think this is something new? Chilled or frozen coated uncooked chicken or fish?
They've been sold as long as I can remember.

They have been selling flash fried raw chicken tenders with flavoured breadcrumbed coatings in supermarkets since 1975?!

really? Just think about that for a second. It’s clearly not true.

Cakencookieobsessed · 04/05/2025 14:39

It's not raw chicken. You're just hearing it up. I think she is unlikely to be sick but they couldn't have tasted very nice. They clearly are the type that aren't ready to eat. Your grandparents are stupid.

AthWat · 04/05/2025 14:37

AquaPeer · 04/05/2025 14:36

Of course they haven’t been sold for 50 years. Why do you keep saying such weird things?

Because they have. Do you think this is something new? Chilled or frozen coated uncooked chicken or fish?
They've been sold as long as I can remember.

BertieBotts · 04/05/2025 14:37

JoyousEagle · 04/05/2025 14:19

Why do so many people think food poisoning is immediate/quick to show up? Salmonella has an incubation period of up to 6 days, so it’s certainly not the case that if you’re ok the next morning you’re fine.

People also seem to think that a risk of food poisoning means like a 90% chance rather than the reality which is more like 2-3%. It's just that if it was a 2-3% chance every time you ate that would be awful with people being ill about once every couple of weeks!

So yes, a raised ~2% chance isn't good but it doesn't mean you'll definitely get ill from a one off mistake.

AquaPeer · 04/05/2025 14:36

AthWat · 04/05/2025 14:34

They've been sold like this in vast quantities in every supermarket for 50 years at a minimum, honestly, have you really never noticed?

Of course they haven’t been sold for 50 years. Why do you keep saying such weird things?

lovegoodlovegood · 04/05/2025 14:35

JoyousEagle · 04/05/2025 14:19

Why do so many people think food poisoning is immediate/quick to show up? Salmonella has an incubation period of up to 6 days, so it’s certainly not the case that if you’re ok the next morning you’re fine.

Absolutely no idea
i ate a meal on a Wednesday, and was unwell by the Saturday. Campylobacter and the hospital said it was perfect timing as it can take longer
it started with a very high temp too, I thought it was covid TBH, and then the diarrhoea every 30 mins started. It’s not 24hrs either, I was unwell for nearly 2 weeks

AthWat · 04/05/2025 14:34

AquaPeer · 04/05/2025 14:31

This is really interesting. Do you know why they’re sold raw? I don’t understand why they’re not just cooked and sold as a ready meal!

They've been sold like this in vast quantities in every supermarket for 50 years at a minimum, honestly, have you really never noticed?

Katemax82 · 04/05/2025 14:34

My MIL ate something similar once and was sick, however she realised afterwards she had eaten raw chicken so probably panicked which made it worse. She was OK after vomiting of course

FGSWhatMoreCanISay · 04/05/2025 14:34

Thanks @KnickerFolder that's interesting!

@SalfordQuays I've already conceded I was wrong! Shouldn't have been so confident...

In person I would have known but on photos I've learnt it can definitely be deceiving.

AthWat · 04/05/2025 14:33

Changeyourlifes · 04/05/2025 14:30

@AthWat

God, how passive aggressive.

I personally didn’t think the meat shown was completely raw because of the shape & firmness of the meat, not the colour! It’s given that the meat is coated and we can’t see a cross-cut of it, hence looking at other factors. You can’t be shocked that food that looks cooked, makes people wonder if it is cooked.

You seem unaware that retailers can and do sell these meat items cooked and partially cooked too.

As I said previously - I would check the packaging in any case.

Edited

I actually said earlier that they sell both cooked and uncooked. What amazes me is that so many other people seem to assume that everything with browned coating is cooked. I am not sure how they are not all dead.

blackballfinal · 04/05/2025 14:33

FGSWhatMoreCanISay · 04/05/2025 13:19

That's not raw so she'll be fine. It's clearly already cooked, you can see it's cooked in the photo.

She didn’t eat the photo

Pieceofcakes · 04/05/2025 14:33

I buy similar; mostly raw chicken you have to cook but you will see by cutting one. Hope she is ok. Can’t believe not one was supervising her. I would be annoyed too

AquaPeer · 04/05/2025 14:31

KnickerFolder · 04/05/2025 14:29

Battered and breaded chicken is often flash fried for 30-60 seconds so the coating forms a crust (so it looks cooked) and any bacteria on the surface of the chicken is killed. As I said in a PP, Salmonella etc is found in the digestive tract but the bacteria can contaminate the outer surface of the chicken pieces during butchery. The chicken inside the batter remains raw.

Frozen battered/breaded chicken is then flash frozen after frying. I would assume chilled chicken is also rapidly cooled so it gets through the “danger zone” temperatures where any surviving bacteria could rapidly multiply. The rate of replication rate of bacteria is temperature dependent, the warmer it is, the faster they multiply.

You should treat things like chicken tenders like raw chicken because there is still the possibility that not all the bacteria were killed during processing. Food poisoning aside, they are raw inside so you wouldn’t want to eat them uncooked 😂

That said, your DD is more likely to be fine than get sick. The chicken would have to be carrying Salmonella etc, the chicken pieces would have to have been contaminated during processing, the bacteria would have had to survive flash frying, there would have to be enough bacteria that survived to make her ill. The infective dose for Salmonella is 1000, about 500 for Campylobacter. That is a lot of unlucky things that need to happen…

This is really interesting. Do you know why they’re sold raw? I don’t understand why they’re not just cooked and sold as a ready meal!

AthWat · 04/05/2025 14:31

AquaPeer · 04/05/2025 14:27

I’ve never seen it, maybe because I don’t shop in that shop or buy ready made food.

tbf though, you’re suggesting it’s various things when you don’t have a clue either

It doesn't have to be that shop, every supermarket has loads of things like this!

If you don't buy ready-made food, that might explain why you weren't aware of this. And yes I am suggesting various things, all of which are certainly true - it's full of colourants, stabilisers and preservatives - although not denying there may be other factors also.

As you have never bought ready made food I can assure you that up close and personal, you can see the batter certainly isn't cooked in a proper or meaningful way. It looks like that for shelf appeal.

SalfordQuays · 04/05/2025 14:31

FGSWhatMoreCanISay · 04/05/2025 13:19

That's not raw so she'll be fine. It's clearly already cooked, you can see it's cooked in the photo.

@FGSWhatMoreCanISay it’s got a coating on it. How can you see whether the meat is cooked or raw?

Outwiththenorm · 04/05/2025 14:31

DH bit into a raw chicken skewer and ate it before he realised it wasn’t cooked under the sauce. He was pretty ill with salmonella for a week. Symptoms started almost straight away.

Changeyourlifes · 04/05/2025 14:30

@AthWat

God, how passive aggressive.

I personally didn’t think the meat shown was completely raw because of the shape & firmness of the meat, not the colour! It’s given that the meat is coated and we can’t see a cross-cut of it, hence looking at other factors. You can’t be shocked that food that looks cooked, makes people wonder if it is cooked.

You seem unaware that retailers can and do sell these meat items cooked and partially cooked too.

As I said previously - I would check the packaging in any case.

KnickerFolder · 04/05/2025 14:29

FGSWhatMoreCanISay · 04/05/2025 13:38

I'll have to have a look next time I'm in. If the chicken is raw the tempura batter would be extremely runny...so that doesn't make sense either tbh.

Battered and breaded chicken is often flash fried for 30-60 seconds so the coating forms a crust (so it looks cooked) and any bacteria on the surface of the chicken is killed. As I said in a PP, Salmonella etc is found in the digestive tract but the bacteria can contaminate the outer surface of the chicken pieces during butchery. The chicken inside the batter remains raw.

Frozen battered/breaded chicken is then flash frozen after frying. I would assume chilled chicken is also rapidly cooled so it gets through the “danger zone” temperatures where any surviving bacteria could rapidly multiply. The rate of replication rate of bacteria is temperature dependent, the warmer it is, the faster they multiply.

You should treat things like chicken tenders like raw chicken because there is still the possibility that not all the bacteria were killed during processing. Food poisoning aside, they are raw inside so you wouldn’t want to eat them uncooked 😂

That said, your DD is more likely to be fine than get sick. The chicken would have to be carrying Salmonella etc, the chicken pieces would have to have been contaminated during processing, the bacteria would have had to survive flash frying, there would have to be enough bacteria that survived to make her ill. The infective dose for Salmonella is 1000, about 500 for Campylobacter. That is a lot of unlucky things that need to happen…

Hollyhobbi · 04/05/2025 14:28

JoyousEagle · 04/05/2025 14:19

Why do so many people think food poisoning is immediate/quick to show up? Salmonella has an incubation period of up to 6 days, so it’s certainly not the case that if you’re ok the next morning you’re fine.

Because not everyone has done Home Economics in school or been a nurse or studied Food Technology like I did😉.

FGSWhatMoreCanISay · 04/05/2025 14:28

Yes they definitely should've apologised and of course they should have paid attention and fed her properly with proper care taken!

AquaPeer · 04/05/2025 14:27

AthWat · 04/05/2025 14:25

Colourants add the colour. I am not sure what they add to give it the solid structure. There may be some flash frying process. I don't know exactly. I only know they have been doing it as long as I can remember, and it absolutely astonishes me that some people appear to be only discovering it now.

I’ve never seen it, maybe because I don’t shop in that shop or buy ready made food.

tbf though, you’re suggesting it’s various things when you don’t have a clue either

KvotheTheBloodless · 04/05/2025 14:26

They sound like complete eejits! Who on earth thinks feeding a child raw chicken isn't something to apologise for?! Do they generally struggle with literacy (i.e. would they have had a problem reading the packet)? That's the only thing I can think of that makes sense, they're embarrassed by their poor literacy and so have doubled down even though they know they're in the wrong.

AthWat · 04/05/2025 14:25

AquaPeer · 04/05/2025 14:22

Colorants are just colour. That breadcrumb / batter is a solid structure and looks deep fried.

Colourants add the colour. I am not sure what they add to give it the solid structure. There may be some flash frying process. I don't know exactly. I only know they have been doing it as long as I can remember, and it absolutely astonishes me that some people appear to be only discovering it now.

MonsteraDelicious · 04/05/2025 14:23

I can kind of see why they would think it was cooked from that photo, it does look cooked. But I also think it's a bit crap to leave her to get snacks from the fridge. Surely when you are looking after a child you'd sort their snacks out for them?