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To think son’s school should be making special allowances for his ADHD

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charl87x · 04/05/2025 07:38

My son has ADHD and takes medication. He only has it on school days to help with his concentration. Some days he doesn’t want to take it so he doesn’t. On the days he doesn’t take it, it reflects on his school work, especially his hand writing. Twice he has had his pen license taken away, and this is on the days he hasn’t had his medication. I try to convince him to take his medication but he just refuses on some days. He’s still coming to terms with having ADHD, and although he knows the medication helps, still refuses some days. Am i wrong to be annoyed that he is having his pen license taken away? It just seems to me they are making no special allowances for his ADHD. He came home from
school on Friday really disheartened about it. What i find worse is his teacher is the school SENCO. I would have thought she had more understanding of his needs. Should i complain about this? I dont want him to think having ADHD allows him to get away with things but also think slight allowances should be made.

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Justforthisoneithink · 04/05/2025 12:24

charl87x · 04/05/2025 07:47

@Temporaryname158he is in year 4. I do try to encourage him to take it daily and he just refuses. I explain how much better he performs in school when he has taken it and he is proud of the work he does when he’s taken it, but then on some mornings refuses.

Well then you just remind him that there will be consequences to not taking his medication- such as losing his pen license. His choice.

StandingOnYourMamasPorch · 04/05/2025 12:22

The school should be more understanding and I’d ignore some of the appalling attitudes on this thread if I was you OP. Your son sounds like he tries and that he cares, if he didn’t then he wouldn’t be upset about this, so he sounds like a good kid.

Although I’m usually supportive of school rules, I’d try to make him realise that this idea of a pen license isn’t that important, what is important is that he tries. One of my children always had lovely handwriting, the other not so much! His handwriting was NEVER mentioned at secondary school. We brought it up in year 7 at parents evening as it had ALWAYS been mentioned at primary school and I couldn’t believe how much of a non issue it was. They encouraged good presentation of course, but if they could read it, it was fine. He is at uni now, still has messy handwriting, but it’s not an issue.

Try not to let it knock his confidence. Talk to the school, they should at least reassure him so that he’s not feeling disheartened.

LyndaSnellsSniff · 04/05/2025 12:21

In my year 4 class, we have a child (in fact we have 3) with ADHD and autism. He has a hard won EHCP and is on medication. However, the EHCP does not guarantee 1:1 support; all it does is provide small group or individual interventions (which he will often refuse to access.) He is frequently disruptive (especially in the afternoons) as the work makes him too anxious and will refuse learning breaks as returning to the class also fuels anxiety.

We do everything we can to accommodate him and his needs whilst also dealing with the other 2 children with similar needs. And also supporting the remaining 27.

Now, if he doesn't take his medication the result is a day of intolerable stress for him. One of the adults in the room has been pushed, punched and bitten. School equipment has been destroyed.

On such a day, his mum will not answer the phone or respond to any messages. Nor will she officially inform us that he has refused his meds.

Our little lad is in entirely the wrong setting. It's heartbreaking.

Our scenario is nearer the extreme end of the spectrum but it demonstrates that even an EHCP will not guarantee 1:1 support and that the effects of medication refusal are huge. And the very thought of giving and then taking away a pen license..? 🤯

MrsSunshine2b · 04/05/2025 12:19

If I didn't take my medication, I would be unproductive at work and not do my job well. I would then get pulled up on this.

My employer has a responsibility to make reasonable adjustments for my ADHD but "accept my shoddy work" isn't a reasonable adjustment.

Your son needs to learn the reasonable adjustments include helping him help himself and if his handwriting is to poor, as a consequence of him not taking his prescribed medication, to write in pen then he'll lose his pen license, just like if when he starts work, if his work is poor, he'll lose his job.

Learning now while the stakes are low is probably for the best.

whippy1981 · 04/05/2025 12:19

Impostersyndicate · 04/05/2025 12:03

That's basically the same as "everyone's a little bit adhd" isn't it?

Which is patently nonsense.

Obviously some people are neurotypical, otherwise neurodivergent people wouldn't exist, and denying the existence and experience of disabled people is also ableist.

It's like ableist whack a mole in here.

Nope it is about what ND means and how it is being misused.

tinyspiny · 04/05/2025 12:19

Kirbert2 · 04/05/2025 10:33

My son, also in Year 4, takes medication 3 times a day (though, not for ADHD) and it is non negotiable despite the fact that he doesn't always like it because it reminds him of why he now needs to take medication but it has to be done and that's that.

I think Year 4 is old enough to know that if I don't take my meds then I might have my pen license taken away for the day or I can take my meds and that is far more likely not to happen. Actions have consequences.

Totally agree with this .

Icantstandupforlyingdown · 04/05/2025 12:18

Impostersyndicate · 04/05/2025 11:50

Insisting a child with adhd must be medicated is lazy. It means the child is being forced to take medication he doesn't want to take, in order to make himself appear more neurotypical and therefore more acceptable to the people around him.

The onus should be on society learning to accept people who are different, not medicating children so they can fit in.

It doesn't do kids any favours to give them the expectation that allowances will always be made for their neurodisability, because out side of their immediate families, allowances will not always be made, especially as children get older.

Roseyposey11 · 04/05/2025 12:17

Temporaryname158 · 04/05/2025 08:16

If this was insulin for diabetes, you wouldn’t allow him to refuse, so why is a 7/8 year old being able to write the narrative here.

you know he performs better with it, so does he. I’d sit him down at a calm time and explain it is mandatory from now on and there will be a consequence for not doing so.

its our job as parents to make sure they have all they need, enabling them to do well at school. You need to ensure he takes it daily.

No, because a child with diabetes would die or suffer severe complications if they didn’t take insulin. Insulin generally makes patients feel much better too.
Medication for ADHD is not a ‘cure’, is far more subjective and has side effects which can make children feel grotty. For some people, there are also other ways of managing ADHD.
The two aren’t comparable

Daisydiary · 04/05/2025 12:17

I’d be wary of any school that uses pen licenses. Not best practice these days!

ThriveAT · 04/05/2025 12:16

His choice has consequences - for him and everyone else in class, including his teacher.

Snicksnacksnora · 04/05/2025 12:14

I havent read everything, I have had the same problem. I don’t agree with it. It’s really negative and affects their self esteem, makes them feel worse than they already do because the school system is not set up for children who don’t fit in a box. I would look at the school website they should have their policies on their SEND policies, SEND code of practice. I would print it off and have a look through and organise a meeting, with school teacher and sendco. Explain your issues and how your son feels and say your feelings. I have had a same discussion about a pen license which is so ridiculous the drama around a pen license, I said he’s never going to be the neatest in the class but some of the others will never be as good as him in other areas. So I never want you to take it away again. It’s really hard aswell, because people who don’t live with children who have difficulties just don’t really understand and it’s exhausting explaining. But I just think if I don’t advocate for him then school would eventually crush his mental wellbeing into oblivion.xx

SharpLily · 04/05/2025 12:13

Impostersyndicate · 04/05/2025 11:50

Insisting a child with adhd must be medicated is lazy. It means the child is being forced to take medication he doesn't want to take, in order to make himself appear more neurotypical and therefore more acceptable to the people around him.

The onus should be on society learning to accept people who are different, not medicating children so they can fit in.

Wow. The fact is that the world isn't made to fit the neurodiverse. It's made of the majority, rightly or wrongly. Bringing up a child with ADHD or any other diversity to expect the world to accomodate them rather than the other way around is doing them a disservice. Changing society simply isn't that easy and it's a parent's responsibility to prepare their child for the world they live in. Not the imaginary utopia in their head. Yes, adaptations should and can be made, but the adult world is a lot more complicated than that.

And lazy is a bit of a stretch. I'm 49 and am reasonably recently medicated, and it's not because I'm lazy. I was the fucking queen of masking, I was brilliant at it but oh my God it was hard! I don't want to do it anymore and that doesn't make me lazy, it makes me tired. I wish I'd been medicated decades ago, my life would have been very different.

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 04/05/2025 12:10

Impostersyndicate · 04/05/2025 12:06

It depends on the NT person really doesn't it? Some people do "put up with" ND people and actually love and care about them, quirks and all. I'm sorry for you that you can't relate to that.

I'm not NT.

And yes, I learned the hard way that fitting in makes life much easier and better. So thank you for the sympathy... genuinely.

LeaveTaking · 04/05/2025 12:10

@ThePunnyPeachDuck your comments keep being deleted but I’ll go out on a limb and say the answer is none.

NinetyNineRedBalloonsGoBy · 04/05/2025 12:08

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 04/05/2025 08:05

He is 7. You need to parent and stop letting him make choices he is not old enough to make.

If he is prescribed medication then his adhd is obvious severe. then you need to make him take it. And stop letting him avoid it. Stop being his friend and start parenting your child.

Would you allow him not to take it if he was atype 1 diabetic who wasn't keen on taking his insulin?

The school may not be handling it well, but they are not the real.issue here.

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This, 100%

stop blaming the school and take responsibility

LeaveTaking · 04/05/2025 12:07

CautiousLurker01 · 04/05/2025 11:46

Clearly none! Both my kids are ASD/ADHD and neither have ever been a disruptive force in school. In fact, both are often referred to as ‘perfect’ students.

Comments like the one you replied to sadden me because it shows just how little understanding there is even today of the range of issues, difficulties, presentations of ND conditions.

Completely agree.

Criticising disabled children is the lowest of the low.

Imaging saying a child who can’t walk far due to a physical disability should be parented better as they slow down the class. There would be an uproar.

Impostersyndicate · 04/05/2025 12:06

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 04/05/2025 11:57

And good luck with that.

Go for it if you want to make your life unnecessarily difficult.

Or maybe turn it on its head.

People with ND need to learn to accept that NT people are different and won't put up with their quirks just as much as NT people need to learn to put up with ND traits.

It depends on the NT person really doesn't it? Some people do "put up with" ND people and actually love and care about them, quirks and all. I'm sorry for you that you can't relate to that.

Delphiniumandlupins · 04/05/2025 12:05

All you can do is talk to him about how/if he thinks his medication affects him. Does he like being able to concentrate, write more neatly, not being told off for fidgeting? If he doesn't want his friends to know he has ADHD (although there is nothing shameful about it) what can he do to achieve that? Hopefully he decides the advantages of taking his medication are worth it, or he accepts the consequences of not taking it (hard lessons to learn at 9).

Impostersyndicate · 04/05/2025 12:03

whippy1981 · 04/05/2025 11:56

There is no such thing as NT. No typical brain exists.

That's basically the same as "everyone's a little bit adhd" isn't it?

Which is patently nonsense.

Obviously some people are neurotypical, otherwise neurodivergent people wouldn't exist, and denying the existence and experience of disabled people is also ableist.

It's like ableist whack a mole in here.

Differentforgirls · 04/05/2025 12:02

QuizzlyBears · 04/05/2025 07:39

Does he have an EHCP (or equivalent if you’re not in the UK)?

England - not the UK.

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 04/05/2025 11:57

Impostersyndicate · 04/05/2025 11:50

Insisting a child with adhd must be medicated is lazy. It means the child is being forced to take medication he doesn't want to take, in order to make himself appear more neurotypical and therefore more acceptable to the people around him.

The onus should be on society learning to accept people who are different, not medicating children so they can fit in.

And good luck with that.

Go for it if you want to make your life unnecessarily difficult.

Or maybe turn it on its head.

People with ND need to learn to accept that NT people are different and won't put up with their quirks just as much as NT people need to learn to put up with ND traits.

whippy1981 · 04/05/2025 11:56

Impostersyndicate · 04/05/2025 11:50

Insisting a child with adhd must be medicated is lazy. It means the child is being forced to take medication he doesn't want to take, in order to make himself appear more neurotypical and therefore more acceptable to the people around him.

The onus should be on society learning to accept people who are different, not medicating children so they can fit in.

There is no such thing as NT. No typical brain exists.

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 04/05/2025 11:55

Impostersyndicate · 04/05/2025 11:47

How could the child's occasional poor handwriting possibly be affecting anyone else?

You're assuming he's disruptive purely on the basis of him having adhd, which is ableist.

OP has said he is fidgety.

As the parent of a child with ADHD who is fidgety when not medicated it is intensely annoying to be around.

DD's friends don't like to sit next to her in class when she's forgotten her meds. I don't like to sit next to her on the sofa at home as it drives me insane and I'm her mother and love her unconditionally.

DD has never been "disruptive", but there are consequences - we couldn't get her meds last month and there were 4 days without them. I had emails from teachers asking what had happened as she appeared to have lost all interest in their subject and was very unfocused.

That was time out of their day to contact me, time out of their day worrying about her. Not disruptive bouncing off the walls, but still disruptive to the normal order of things.

Impostersyndicate · 04/05/2025 11:53

KilkennyCats · 04/05/2025 11:39

Why are you allowing a year 4 child a choice in whether he takes his medication or not?

What do you suggest she should do? Pin him down and force it down his throat?

Impostersyndicate · 04/05/2025 11:51

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