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Executor asking for money back

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naffusername · 04/05/2025 03:27

So, MIL died in August of 22. Number three son was named Executor. There are four sons in total.

Will stated family home was to be sold and proceeds divided equally among her surviving sons. Two sons had moved back home 20 years ago and never left.

House was sold in 23 after going through Probate.. Funds were released in December of 23.

No notice, we just found a large chunk of cash in our chequing account. We contacted the lawyer for a statement of account and were given the bare details. Our bank was happy with us and told us that the money was tax free (inheritance law here) and if the funds were released it was ours and nobody should be asking for anything after the fact.

Fast forward to April of 25. The Executor has been in touch and wants $10K to settle "our share of the taxes owing on the Estate". He claims that he released the funds early because he and brother number 4 needed to buy places to live! Husband pointed out that he had received his Executor's fees and then he turned around and said he'd never wanted the job!

Husband wants to give it to his brother as he doesn't want there to be "any bad blood in the family". I reminded him of what the bank told us and have checked on line with our tax agency. Our oldest son basically said his Father is a fool to even consider giving back the money as the funds being released signal the estate is settled.

There are no family ties to break. This was the first we'd heard from any of the brothers since November 23. They never were a close family and had no time for us when we visited and I doubt they would recognize our children. My sons did visit their Grandmother but were aware that there was some memory issues and that the son name as Executor didn't seem to want them there.

So do we pay 10K or write of a relationship that doesn't exist?

OP posts:
SlagPit · 04/05/2025 08:24

Dopeyandgrumpy · 04/05/2025 07:25

I acted as executor and it’s very difficult job and generally those undertaking the work are usually grieving while they are sorting out the estate.

The brother doing this saves a lot of money on solicitor fees and I think you are being very unreasonable if don’t repay any tax money that is owed. I’d expect to see the documentation from HMRC though.

For those who say all tax is paid before probate is granted you can still owe tax if the deceased owed income tax as you can pay this after probate

All this. It's hard, it's a lot of responsibility, you're doing it whilst grieving. Mistakes happen.

B1indEye · 04/05/2025 08:24

sesquipedalian · 04/05/2025 07:28

According to the Gov.uk website, “You usually need to make a payment towards any Inheritance Tax due before you can get a ‘grant of representation’ (also known as ‘probate’)” - in other words, they won’t release the money until the tax has been paid. The bank has told,you that the money is yours - I’d be asking some very searching questions if your DBIL, and as others have suggested, would demand to see a bill from the Inland Revenue for any sum owing. IF a mistake has been made, by all means rectify it - but I’d want to know how and why.

I think it's pretty clear from what she's posted that the OP isn't in the UK

Without knowing where she is and what the rules are no one say whether the executor has cocked up or theres a genuine reason for thos happening

The posters querying that 10k is a suspiciously round sum, I'm sure thats an indication of the amount, who would type $9874.46? 😀

ShanghaiDiva · 04/05/2025 08:18

all debts should be settled before distribution, but tax, other than IHT May be due on the estate. I was the executrix of my mother’s estate and had to complete her self assessment for the tax year she died and pay income tax owed. Additionally any interest which is earned by the estate during the administration period ie from date of death until probate granted is also taxable - (think there is an allowance of £1k) and should be paid before distribution of the estate.
i appreciate OP is not in the UK, but imagine the system for dealing with estates is similar and as a beneficiary I would ask for statement of estate accounts and evidence of debt due as a first step.

Supergirl1958 · 04/05/2025 08:11

If I were your husband I would ask for official paperwork that states all parties are culpable to pay tax on the estate. As I don’t really know much about this I’m not sure where it would come from? Perhaps a solicitor?

user1471538283 · 04/05/2025 08:06

I'd want to see proof of this. And if your DH needs to pay 10k so then do the other brothers so 40k?

I'd also want to find out how it works in your country. When I was an executor in the UK we paid tax and everything else before distribution via a solicitor. Did your BIL engage a solicitor?

NamelessNancy · 04/05/2025 07:59

PrincessFairyWren · 04/05/2025 05:44

I'm going against the grain.

Executer made a mistake that ended up in your husband and the other beneficiaries favour. Being an executer is a very difficult job, he was under pressure from his other brother and grieving. That doesn't make it OK but it also puts it into context of the difficult position he was having.

I'm assuming the tax bill is for the tax return that was lodged on behalf of the deceased for the year that they died in.

I would ask for the documentation, read it to verify the error and give the money back.

If your employer accidentally over pays you, you are obligated to return the money. If the bank accidentally puts money in your account you are obliged to pay. I think that you just are trying to be a cow to the brother because you don't like him. Plus it is your husband's decision and you are disagreeing with him which isn't fair.

Agree wholeheartedly with this. Being an executor is a difficult, time consuming and stressful job.

I would want to see some accounts/proof of the bill but wouldn't want to saddle the sibling who'd done all the hard work with paying my share if genuine.

winter8090 · 04/05/2025 07:49

And yes as others have said you need to see a detailed breakdown of the estate.

winter8090 · 04/05/2025 07:48

If the estate owes taxes they need to be paid from the estate.
How much did you inherit?
The executor should have paid the taxes before distributing funds. But I’m assuming executory work is new to him and he’s made a genuine error.
I find it strange the brother got a fee for being executor? How much was that?
I would pay the fees.
Where the bank has told you that YOU do not need to pay taxes, this doesn’t mean that no tax was due to be paid from the estate.

Bubblesaremyonlyfruit · 04/05/2025 07:46

Evidence. Confirmation either way.

Inthebleakmidwinter1 · 04/05/2025 07:45

As executor you should provide a statement detailing how you have distributed the estate. Being executor is a little complicated and it’s possible he has messed up in which case I would help him rectify that if you can. But he should be happy to show you the details

Arlanymor · 04/05/2025 07:41

What your bank told you is irrelevant, it is nothing to do with executing an estate. You've not disclosed where you live, so no one here can advise you regarding tax. It's your husband's inheritance, so his choice how to handle it... but if I were you I would make the point to him that asking for evidence of what tax matters need to be settled will help him to make an informed decision.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/05/2025 07:37

sesquipedalian · 04/05/2025 07:28

According to the Gov.uk website, “You usually need to make a payment towards any Inheritance Tax due before you can get a ‘grant of representation’ (also known as ‘probate’)” - in other words, they won’t release the money until the tax has been paid. The bank has told,you that the money is yours - I’d be asking some very searching questions if your DBIL, and as others have suggested, would demand to see a bill from the Inland Revenue for any sum owing. IF a mistake has been made, by all means rectify it - but I’d want to know how and why.

OP is not in the UK.

Nominative · 04/05/2025 07:33

I reminded him of what the bank told us and have checked on line with our tax agency.

I suspect that they were telling you that you personally did not have to pay any tax on the money you received, not that the estate didn't have to pay tax: they presumably assumed that had been paid already. However, as PP have said, it seems very odd that they would have got probate if they didn't pay tax, so you need to ask for full estate accounts and a copy of the tax records.

CamillaMacauley · 04/05/2025 07:31

Dopeyandgrumpy · 04/05/2025 07:25

I acted as executor and it’s very difficult job and generally those undertaking the work are usually grieving while they are sorting out the estate.

The brother doing this saves a lot of money on solicitor fees and I think you are being very unreasonable if don’t repay any tax money that is owed. I’d expect to see the documentation from HMRC though.

For those who say all tax is paid before probate is granted you can still owe tax if the deceased owed income tax as you can pay this after probate

This completely. If you are happy that the debt/money owed is genuine then paying the 10k would be the right thing to do. Being an executor is stressful and people make mistakes. If all the brothers refused to pay then exec brother could be left having to find 40k. Which isn’t fair when he’s done all the siblings a favour by being exec. You need to reframe it and stop thinking about it as “giving money to the brother” and instead think of it as money/tax owed to the govt.

It would be very immoral to rip a brother off to the extent of not paying regardless of whether legally you could get away with it. The closeness or not of the relationship is irrelevant. And to be honest both you and your son don’t sound very nice, like you’re making excuses for not paying it back. If I was your dh I’d be seeing you in a different light.

Cadenza12 · 04/05/2025 07:31

If it's owed then your husband pays, that's the only thing to do. It's dishonest to consider otherwise. Some people.

Purplelady1 · 04/05/2025 07:29

Ask for evidence of the outstanding tax. If you can verify its authenticity, pay what is owed.

sesquipedalian · 04/05/2025 07:28

According to the Gov.uk website, “You usually need to make a payment towards any Inheritance Tax due before you can get a ‘grant of representation’ (also known as ‘probate’)” - in other words, they won’t release the money until the tax has been paid. The bank has told,you that the money is yours - I’d be asking some very searching questions if your DBIL, and as others have suggested, would demand to see a bill from the Inland Revenue for any sum owing. IF a mistake has been made, by all means rectify it - but I’d want to know how and why.

ThejoyofNC · 04/05/2025 07:27

Just ask for the proof. And keep out of it. Oh and tell your son it's none of his business too, why on earth do you think the opinion of a child means anything in this?

JustLookingThanks · 04/05/2025 07:27

You need an official copy of the paperwork, and a copy of the demand for tax. Then pay one quarter direct. This person may have made an error, executors are not professionals, and given out money not realising that there would be further tax due.

Dopeyandgrumpy · 04/05/2025 07:25

I acted as executor and it’s very difficult job and generally those undertaking the work are usually grieving while they are sorting out the estate.

The brother doing this saves a lot of money on solicitor fees and I think you are being very unreasonable if don’t repay any tax money that is owed. I’d expect to see the documentation from HMRC though.

For those who say all tax is paid before probate is granted you can still owe tax if the deceased owed income tax as you can pay this after probate

squarepegroudhole · 04/05/2025 07:22

I’d want proper evidence of the amount due and I’d only pay it direct to the Inland Revenue. I wouldn’t transfer it back to the third party.

Sleephelpneeded · 04/05/2025 07:21

BruFord · 04/05/2025 03:35

He needs to share the paperwork with your DH showing that taxes really were liable on estate and that he's paid them out of his share or that they're now due.
If the estate really did/does have to pay 40K in taxes, then each son should contribute 10K towards them.

No paperwork, no contribution from your DH.

This!!

Hdjdb42 · 04/05/2025 07:16

BruFord · 04/05/2025 03:35

He needs to share the paperwork with your DH showing that taxes really were liable on estate and that he's paid them out of his share or that they're now due.
If the estate really did/does have to pay 40K in taxes, then each son should contribute 10K towards them.

No paperwork, no contribution from your DH.

Yes this.

WinterFoxes · 04/05/2025 07:13

They need to talk. The executor needs to show transparent paper trail of taxes and costs incurred. And then yes, they should all be split equally if the profits of the sale were also equally split. No one chooses to be an executor. It's a time-consuming, thankless task. He made a mistake. So what? He'd never done the job before, was grieving the death of his mother and needed to find a home. Stress upon stress.

Don't be greedy. Have a heart. Why should he do all the work and pay your portion of tax?

Londonrach1 · 04/05/2025 07:07

Your dh needs to get a copy of the will and see the debt