Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

So all members of the Royal family should have round the clock armed security then, if Harry needs it so do they.

He didn't make his point very clearly. He kept repeating himself. He gets protection. His family gets protection - he just wants armed protection, giving no notice.

We were paying for armed protection for Andrew until 2022 and then KC payed privately for unarmed protection until the end of last year when he wanted the Royal Lodge back.

It's not up to Charles. Harry is lying about this.

King Charles did not say no, it wasn’t his decision to make. Are you a member of the National Security services per chance? Otherwise how do you have any idea who has a credible threat against them or not?

There are credible threats to all of them. The Sussexes are not an exception.
Also - Meghan and the children do get protection. Of course they do! Do you honestly think they wouldn't get security?!

And he doesn't. The UK provide him with security for free. He just wants to be able to pay for a different type of state provided security, which is not a good precedent for us to set.

On that basis then we should be paying for 24/7 365 days per year armed security for Andrew, Anne, Edward, plus all their spouses and children.

But Diana didn't die because she didn't have armed security, she died because her driver was drunk and she wasn't wearing a seat belt.

He was a bit selective in that interview. It is not the case that he will only get security if on an official/invited trip.

He shouldn't have to pay.

His life is at risk because of who he is and the family he was born into.

His life is at risk because his family chose to use him to promote their brand whether he wanted to or not. He will always be at risk because of that and because of who he is. He shouldn't have to pay.

Does anyone truly believe the Kings grandchildren are not targets? And Archie and Lilibet will be much easier to get to than the others. Especially if people know they are not protected by armed security
If Diana hadn't refused Royal protection she'd probably be alive today.

He’s been photographed overseas- Jamaica, Nigeria, Columbia, Canada… He might have bought the Portuguese property without seeing it in the flesh but he could have visited there too.

Exactly and whether we like it or not, there are many groups of people who would be a very relevant threat to him and his family. He is still the King's son!!!

That’s not what he said in the interview.

That’s a bit of a big leap away from anything I said. I think it’s fair for him to be able to visit his home when he wants to rather than just when he’s summoned by his family, and yes, if as a country we’re going to have a royal family born into positions (which I actually think is a load of rubbish - the whole design of it is psychologically traumatic and is why we have dysfunctional royal families - it needs scrapped) we should take the responsibility to keep people safe within the gilded cage we’ve built for them.

We know that he travels overseas with his wife and that they have bought a second property in Portugal so he’s not confined to staying in the US.

He has to give notice if he wants armed security so the security staff are available and that they can make arrangements so that his itinerary is as safe as possible.

So you want the UK to pay for global security for Harry forever - so 4 full protection teams living in the US and on a full time rota @CalypsoCuthbertson

Personally I don’t think it’s being a petulant brat to want to be able to travel freely. Would you like it if you either had to stay in one country and be safe or risk being hurt in other countries because of who your parents are?

Harry is a unique case because he was born into the level of risk that the has. He didn't strive to become a pop star or actor, didn't get voted into power, did nothing himself to have been a kidnap threat since the day he was born.
It doesn't matter if he's a non working royal or the most working royal ever, he is still the King's son. He could try to rebrand as just Harry Sussex/ Mountbatten-Windsor and get a job in Lidl, but he is still the King's son with all of the risks that brings, through no choice of his own.
I haven't seen the whole of the interview but thought he made that point very clearly - his royal job might have changed but the threat level brought by who his family is hasn't.

@notanothernamechange24 - kidnap plots?!
Even so, the security WOULD be provided IF deemed necessary - I personally would be furious if millions and millions was spent each year to provide unucessary security for Harry and Megain to sell jams and spew their lies - they're not working royals, they stepped back, they moved away and changed their lives, so they get on with it I'm afraid

We can’t see how he feels safer in the US, where anybody can buy a gun, compared to here? Trump was shot in the ear last year - presumably a near miss for a fatal shot to the head? Who is likely to have more security than Trump?

We talked about risk. DH missed the IRA bomb at London Bridge by 15 minutes. He was in Kings Cross when he heard the bomb on the bus go off - the very area, he used to walk through every day on his way to the office. He was late getting up that day! His office was on Shaftesbury Avenue and the police regularly cleared the area, due to bomb threats.

I should have caught the train in the Wembley train crash. There were two trains on the platform and that was the first out. I was too tired to walk the length of the second train to get on it, when probably all the seats had gone. I decided to get on the train at the back and have a sit down. Later, they led us along the tracks at Wembley past the train crash.

Anybody in London in particular can be in the wrong place at the wrong time and get stabbed?

This isn’t right. If they came over the RAVEC assessment would look at the risks to all of them and provide security of the risks warranted it but need notice to do the assessment. He wants the security to be fully available whenever he chooses to visit without notice.

He wants guns and access to police/security service intelligence which private security cannot provide in the UK. Presumably if there was an identified threat protection would be escalated accordingly.

Charles doesn’t provide William’s security.