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Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

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jennylamb1 · 03/05/2025 14:36

Don’t get it. He says that he can’t ever visit the UK again because his security won’t be provided. Loads of celebrities and high profile business people pay for their own security, why should tax payers pay for his security when he isn’t a working royal anymore?

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FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 17:03

FloatingSquirrel · 03/05/2025 17:03

As much as I dislike him I do think he should get protection. It's different to a celebrity where they have chosen to be high profile, he was born into it.

He gets protection.

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 17:03

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 17:02

Liz Truss wasn’t plucked from obscurity to become the next Prime Minister, she wasn’t the equivalent of an X Factor contestant, the lack of knowledge on here is astounding.

The member of Parliament (MP) for South West Norfolk from 2010 to 2024, Truss held various Cabinet positions under three prime ministers—David Cameron, Theresa May, and Boris Johnson—lastly as foreign secretary from 2021 to 2022

Quite. She knows a lot of stuff critical to the security of the UK. Of course she is protected.

FloatingSquirrel · 03/05/2025 17:03

As much as I dislike him I do think he should get protection. It's different to a celebrity where they have chosen to be high profile, he was born into it.

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 17:02

@Lucelady you are wrong.
Harry gets security.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 17:02

Lucelady · 03/05/2025 16:59

You are quite wrong here. Liz Truss was not in office long enough to know Jack anything.
Harry is ex services plus a Royal*. He chose the former. That was not a wise move. I have worked close to these people and we have an obligation to this man even if it just about decency.

  • he's not an ex royal, he never will be.

Liz Truss wasn’t plucked from obscurity to become the next Prime Minister, she wasn’t the equivalent of an X Factor contestant, the lack of knowledge on here is astounding.

The member of Parliament (MP) for South West Norfolk from 2010 to 2024, Truss held various Cabinet positions under three prime ministers—David Cameron, Theresa May, and Boris Johnson—lastly as foreign secretary from 2021 to 2022

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 17:00

Lucelady · 03/05/2025 16:59

You are quite wrong here. Liz Truss was not in office long enough to know Jack anything.
Harry is ex services plus a Royal*. He chose the former. That was not a wise move. I have worked close to these people and we have an obligation to this man even if it just about decency.

  • he's not an ex royal, he never will be.

How do you know what information Truss was privy to? She was the PM. She'd need to be briefed on defence, including nuclear codes.

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 16:59

PinkArt · 03/05/2025 16:56

Perhaps he was less clear in other parts - as I said I've not watched the whole interview.

Well, really, he was less than honest or perhaps he doesn't understand how security services work. Of course he gets security - see all the responses on this thread. Charles is not in charge. Why on earth would special services leave decisions to Charles?! He's not an expert!
Harry just kept saying stuff about his father and his family, the usual about his mother etc. it wasn't great.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 16:59

PinkArt · 03/05/2025 16:54

If that's the level of security they is required to keep them safe, yes we should. I would guess that Harry and his family are at higher risk than say Edward's kids, which presumably is all part of the risk assessment, but they should all have suitable protection.

They have all been risk assessed and security is provided for them all on that basis, it’s not difficult to understand, and yes you are guessing, fortunately the British Security Services know what they are doing, unlike random mumsnetters.

Lucelady · 03/05/2025 16:59

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 16:53

No. Liz Truss gets full protection because she was the Head of Government, and privy to all manner of Official Secrets.
Security isn't about whether you like someone or not. Harry gets - free of charge, thanks to us - top level security for him and his family when in the UK. However, what he doesn't like is giving notice, and what he also doesn't like is that it may not always be armed, and he may not always have outriders.

You are quite wrong here. Liz Truss was not in office long enough to know Jack anything.
Harry is ex services plus a Royal*. He chose the former. That was not a wise move. I have worked close to these people and we have an obligation to this man even if it just about decency.

  • he's not an ex royal, he never will be.
PinkArt · 03/05/2025 16:56

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 16:48

He didn't make his point very clearly. He kept repeating himself. He gets protection. His family gets protection - he just wants armed protection, giving no notice.

Perhaps he was less clear in other parts - as I said I've not watched the whole interview.

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 16:55

StClabberts · 03/05/2025 16:51

So even ex prime ministers get full time secruity for life on less than two months public service?

Yes of course they do, because it would be a heroically stupid idea for us not to do that.

Anyone who has been PM of the UK is going to be party to the sort of official security information that means we'd all be at risk if they were ever compromised. The question isn't whether Liz Truss is a twat, it's whether she knows things we don't want tortured out of her. The answer to both questions is yes.

None of which has anything whatsoever to do with the protection given to the royals.

Thank you - slight cross post!

PinkArt · 03/05/2025 16:54

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 16:43

On that basis then we should be paying for 24/7 365 days per year armed security for Andrew, Anne, Edward, plus all their spouses and children.

If that's the level of security they is required to keep them safe, yes we should. I would guess that Harry and his family are at higher risk than say Edward's kids, which presumably is all part of the risk assessment, but they should all have suitable protection.

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 16:54

Lucelady · 03/05/2025 16:51

@FenellaFeldman we are already paying it!

We are! I just meant if Anne,Edward and Sophie carried on and made demands like Harry!

JoyousEagle · 03/05/2025 16:54

BethDuttonYeHaw · 03/05/2025 16:52

He can and does pay for private security.

what he wants, though, is security provided by British police (special branch) on-demand which isn’t available for purchase by celebrities or ex royals.

he will be provided either British police security as and when it’s assessed that it’s needed.

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And to be clear, he does actually get that security provided and paid for. It’s just not arranged exactly how he’d like it.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 16:53

Lucelady · 03/05/2025 16:48

So even ex prime ministers get full time secruity for life on less than two months public service? Get real, he's a target. He might be as mad as a bag of fogs but he didn't choose to be a Royal.
All this nonsense about being JHs child is codswalop, look at a portrait of Henry the eighth!
He is a blabbering fool but he didn't have good role models. His father was bullied, his mother was coerced. Tbh if I was him I'd come home, seek a suitable safe house and get out there smiling for the plebs. Better than flogging a dead horse. The USA has not worked for them. He has a lot to offer if he engaged a good set of advisers. All the Royal family needs fresh counsel.

He doesn’t have the status of actually running the country like a Prime Minister ribbon cutting is really not the same level.

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 16:53

Lucelady · 03/05/2025 16:48

So even ex prime ministers get full time secruity for life on less than two months public service? Get real, he's a target. He might be as mad as a bag of fogs but he didn't choose to be a Royal.
All this nonsense about being JHs child is codswalop, look at a portrait of Henry the eighth!
He is a blabbering fool but he didn't have good role models. His father was bullied, his mother was coerced. Tbh if I was him I'd come home, seek a suitable safe house and get out there smiling for the plebs. Better than flogging a dead horse. The USA has not worked for them. He has a lot to offer if he engaged a good set of advisers. All the Royal family needs fresh counsel.

No. Liz Truss gets full protection because she was the Head of Government, and privy to all manner of Official Secrets.
Security isn't about whether you like someone or not. Harry gets - free of charge, thanks to us - top level security for him and his family when in the UK. However, what he doesn't like is giving notice, and what he also doesn't like is that it may not always be armed, and he may not always have outriders.

BethDuttonYeHaw · 03/05/2025 16:52

jennylamb1 · 03/05/2025 14:36

Don’t get it. He says that he can’t ever visit the UK again because his security won’t be provided. Loads of celebrities and high profile business people pay for their own security, why should tax payers pay for his security when he isn’t a working royal anymore?

He can and does pay for private security.

what he wants, though, is security provided by British police (special branch) on-demand which isn’t available for purchase by celebrities or ex royals.

he will be provided either British police security as and when it’s assessed that it’s needed.

Chewygummy · 03/05/2025 16:52

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Fkhgfv · 03/05/2025 16:51

UK private security is not armed so less likely to be able to protect you from a threat.

Lucelady · 03/05/2025 16:51

@FenellaFeldman we are already paying it!

StClabberts · 03/05/2025 16:51

So even ex prime ministers get full time secruity for life on less than two months public service?

Yes of course they do, because it would be a heroically stupid idea for us not to do that.

Anyone who has been PM of the UK is going to be party to the sort of official security information that means we'd all be at risk if they were ever compromised. The question isn't whether Liz Truss is a twat, it's whether she knows things we don't want tortured out of her. The answer to both questions is yes.

None of which has anything whatsoever to do with the protection given to the royals.

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 16:51

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 16:50

Just to be clear he does get security and he doesn’t have to pay, he just needs to give 28 days notice. Why people are not getting this is maddening.

They must choose not to. It's very strange, I agree.

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 16:50

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 16:48

So all members of the Royal family should have round the clock armed security then, if Harry needs it so do they.

Can you imagine the Home Office bill to the taxpayer?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 16:50

TheDevilFindsWorkForIdleMums · 03/05/2025 16:29

He shouldn't have to pay.

His life is at risk because of who he is and the family he was born into.

His life is at risk because his family chose to use him to promote their brand whether he wanted to or not. He will always be at risk because of that and because of who he is. He shouldn't have to pay.

Just to be clear he does get security and he doesn’t have to pay, he just needs to give 28 days notice. Why people are not getting this is maddening.

Lucelady · 03/05/2025 16:48

So even ex prime ministers get full time secruity for life on less than two months public service? Get real, he's a target. He might be as mad as a bag of fogs but he didn't choose to be a Royal.
All this nonsense about being JHs child is codswalop, look at a portrait of Henry the eighth!
He is a blabbering fool but he didn't have good role models. His father was bullied, his mother was coerced. Tbh if I was him I'd come home, seek a suitable safe house and get out there smiling for the plebs. Better than flogging a dead horse. The USA has not worked for them. He has a lot to offer if he engaged a good set of advisers. All the Royal family needs fresh counsel.

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