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Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

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jennylamb1 · 03/05/2025 14:36

Don’t get it. He says that he can’t ever visit the UK again because his security won’t be provided. Loads of celebrities and high profile business people pay for their own security, why should tax payers pay for his security when he isn’t a working royal anymore?

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IcedPurple · 03/05/2025 18:05

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 17:45

He doesn’t phone to give 28 days notice of his visit. He said clearly the security he would be provided with “amounted to advice over the phone”

he is only provided with security for visits where he is invited on royal business- which won’t happen as he isn’t a working royal and is estranged from Charles and William.

i don’t think it’s true that he gets security with 28 days notice whenever he fancies coming

his main complaint was that the process wasn’t being followed for him as it is for others

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Harry's 'complaint' was comprehensively dismissed by 3 High Court judges, one of whom summed it all up by remarking that his grievances do not amount to a legal argument.

Do you believe these judges erred in their assessment?

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 18:04

IcedPurple · 03/05/2025 18:03

I'm not sure what the American system has to do with RAVEC, but Obama's children would certainly have had a security detail when they were minors. They're adults now.

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Which they paid for. Anyway it doesn’t have anything to do with RAVEC, it was a simple comment that doesn’t need the level of drilling you’re after

EmeraldShamrock000 · 03/05/2025 18:04

He didn't ask to be born a prince. It would benefit his UK family, if they looked closer to home with their anger.
At dear randy Andy, vile specimen.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 18:04

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 17:59

This is what he said in the interview. Where is the alternative view?

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It doesn’t matter what Harry says, he can say the earth is flat if he so wishes, doesn’t make it true. I don’t know how many more times I can say it, if Harry and/or his family want to come over he must inform the Home Office giving 28 days notice and security arrangements will be made, If you think our Security Services and the Home Office are liars and Harry is the font of all knowledge on National security then I can’t help you further.

IcedPurple · 03/05/2025 18:03

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 17:56

To be fair. Michelle Obama has just done an interview stating that this is the same for the president- he has the security, they had to pay for their children’s. And they travelled in alternative vehicles that they had to pay for personally .

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I'm not sure what the American system has to do with RAVEC, but Obama's children would certainly have had a security detail when they were minors. They're adults now.

AgnesX · 03/05/2025 18:03

IdaGlossop · 03/05/2025 17:42

He has slipped down. He is fifth in the line of succession. Before George was born and while QEII was alive, he was third. When William ascends the throne, he will go back up to 4th. Such fun!

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I meant in relation to who gets security @FenellaFeldman answered that one.

I do think that once Charles goes there'll be a big shakeup in the RF. In what shape or form that'll be will be interesting to see.

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 18:02

Theunamedcat · 03/05/2025 17:59

His aunt and uncles I'm assuming? But if we are playing that game he won't get any security because they only get it when they are working

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Quite. He actually has more privilege than working royals.

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 18:02

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 17:58

What’s that got to do with anything?

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Because the posters thought that it was a ridiculous idea that security services would protect the main “target” and leave their direct family unsecured.

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 17:59

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 17:48

Then your thinking is wrong.

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This is what he said in the interview. Where is the alternative view?

Theunamedcat · 03/05/2025 17:59

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 17:47

What others? Who else decided to step away as a working royal and live in California?

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His aunt and uncles I'm assuming? But if we are playing that game he won't get any security because they only get it when they are working

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 17:59

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 17:57

I know all that. I’m answering the question you asked me. I don’t have any argument about it.

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Right, sorry, I wasn't quite clear.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 17:58

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 17:56

To be fair. Michelle Obama has just done an interview stating that this is the same for the president- he has the security, they had to pay for their children’s. And they travelled in alternative vehicles that they had to pay for personally .

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What’s that got to do with anything?

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 17:58

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 17:56

To be fair. Michelle Obama has just done an interview stating that this is the same for the president- he has the security, they had to pay for their children’s. And they travelled in alternative vehicles that they had to pay for personally .

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Yes, the USA has a different system, don't they? That's because it's only the President technically who has the role. On that basis, Harry should count himself lucky.

SammyScrounge · 03/05/2025 17:58

CatsWhiskerz · 03/05/2025 14:47

His security IS provided in the UK, it's just not the blanket. Overage he wants so he's throwing his toys out of the pram like a petulant brat

I don't think it's just the money although it's a big thing to him. It's regaining royal status. What are these pretend royal tours about?-he's acting as if he still has status,as if he was as important as Prince William (in a constitutional sense).
I really think he's not quite well.¹

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 17:57

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 17:56

They get security because they're in the UK and doing official engagements.
They don't get any security if they're not on an official engagement.

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I know all that. I’m answering the question you asked me. I don’t have any argument about it.

Theunamedcat · 03/05/2025 17:57

PinkArt · 03/05/2025 17:27

He's Prince Harry. If he never did anything to deliberately put himself in the public eye ever again he'll always be Prince Harry, famous royal, son of/ eventually brother of the King. He didn't get a choice about becoming famous and has limited options to turn it off.

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Anne and Edward and even andrew were at one point the sons and daughter of the monarch they still didn't have 24/7 security

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 17:56

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 17:25

Meghan and the children are included in protection. Why would they not be? They'd send a special limousine with close protection for Harry, but make Meghan and the children get a taxi?
By the way, they're not allowed to take taxis, although I noticed Harry and Meghan did so in New York. I can't imagine that's safer.

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To be fair. Michelle Obama has just done an interview stating that this is the same for the president- he has the security, they had to pay for their children’s. And they travelled in alternative vehicles that they had to pay for personally .

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 17:56

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 17:54

The other royals who get security, obviously.

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They get security because they're in the UK and doing official engagements.
They don't get any security if they're not on an official engagement.

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 17:54

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 17:47

What others? Who else decided to step away as a working royal and live in California?

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The other royals who get security, obviously.

Wakemeupbe4yougogo · 03/05/2025 17:54

If he thinks his family are going to want reconciliation after that interview and statement yesterday, he's a bigger tool than even I thought.

He was carefully managed when part of the BRF - now he's a loose cannon and we're seeing the real Harry. Arrogant, petulant, entitled and entirely unaware of the consequences of his actions.

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 17:51

The recent case, Harry v the Home Office was very interesting. There was a very informative thread going at the time, with all the ins and outs.
It was not Harry v Charles, and it was not about him getting "no security".

Snorlaxo · 03/05/2025 17:50

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61114969

The media found out about this visit after it happened. It clearly takes planning but can be done under the right conditions.

Britain"s Prince Harry and Meghan Markle appear onstage at the 2021 Global Citizen Live concert at Central Park in New York, U.S., September 25, 202

Harry and Meghan visit Queen on way to Invictus Games

The royal couple stopped at Windsor to visit the monarch on their way to the Netherlands.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61114969

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 17:48

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 17:45

He doesn’t phone to give 28 days notice of his visit. He said clearly the security he would be provided with “amounted to advice over the phone”

he is only provided with security for visits where he is invited on royal business- which won’t happen as he isn’t a working royal and is estranged from Charles and William.

i don’t think it’s true that he gets security with 28 days notice whenever he fancies coming

his main complaint was that the process wasn’t being followed for him as it is for others

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Then your thinking is wrong.

FenellaFeldman · 03/05/2025 17:47

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 17:45

He doesn’t phone to give 28 days notice of his visit. He said clearly the security he would be provided with “amounted to advice over the phone”

he is only provided with security for visits where he is invited on royal business- which won’t happen as he isn’t a working royal and is estranged from Charles and William.

i don’t think it’s true that he gets security with 28 days notice whenever he fancies coming

his main complaint was that the process wasn’t being followed for him as it is for others

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What others? Who else decided to step away as a working royal and live in California?

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 17:45

He doesn’t phone to give 28 days notice of his visit. He said clearly the security he would be provided with “amounted to advice over the phone”

he is only provided with security for visits where he is invited on royal business- which won’t happen as he isn’t a working royal and is estranged from Charles and William.

i don’t think it’s true that he gets security with 28 days notice whenever he fancies coming

his main complaint was that the process wasn’t being followed for him as it is for others

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