Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

I’ve just skim read the judgement- it’s very interesting and I’ll read it again in detail later. It doesn’t seem to cover his future security offering at all (which is to be expected, to be fair, that’s not what it’s for) but it is interesting.

The precedent thing is a red herring. Anyone could successfully argue that his situation is unique. A precedent would only be set for any other very high level member of the royal family who stepped down from Royal duties.

I can’t believe anyone is so petty they would deny this request for him to pay for his own security in the U.K so that he can be sure that team have access to the intelligence that would keep his family safe. Let’s not forget, the initial request was for his own security to be given access to that information and it was denied.

It makes no difference at all to have him pay for security. It is being stopped out of spite.

I won’t be answering any further questions from you after your personal attack towards me.

The Secret Service have a website where they explicitly say that they provide protection for the 'immediate families' of the President.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter what the Americans do. Harry has a special arrangement with RAVEC whereby his and his family's security situation is kept under review and provided he cooperate with them, they receive whatever security is deemed appropriate.

I can't see a problem here. Can you?

Security isn't based on being nice or not nice. It's assessed on need. Charles doesn't make the decision because he doesn't work for the Met or MI6.

Its sad that harry and charles and speaking at all anymore

who has done that?

I dont know. Harrys entitled to tell his story.

But its a bit much to write a book slating the royal family, and then insist on having paid security because hes in the royal family.

If he had been a bit nicer and left the royal family on good terms, they probably would have given them better security.

Harry said that charles is not speaking to him at all now.

We have strict gun laws. Private security can’t carry guns. And we can’t pay for police services.

Good job King Charles didn’t then.

Interestingly, one of the daughters got UK protection when she studied over here. All on the taxpayer. No-one wants an incident.

If he doesn’t then we have to pay for it , are you happy with that?

@AquaPeer Harry said in his book he received the news of the death of the Queen Mother alone in his bedroom at Eton. The phone call, I seem to recall, was coming from a low level member of staff of the RF - Harry framed this as an example of the lack of care from his family I think.

Why didn't his Dad call him to break this news? Well, because his Dad was skiiing on holiday with William..... and Harry. They were photographed by the press in a little photo shoot.

Harry has a proven history of lying framing his story in a way to garner sympathy for himself. Why would he sit in the bbc interview and say 'Well, I understand I need to give notice before I come to the UK and then a bespoke risk assessment is done and security provided in line with risk assessment. Alternatively, if/when I travel to the UK for state occassion (funeral/coronation) or a family matter - I'll be automatically entitled to full security because a) the nature of the event and b) I'd be be covered by my father's security/brother's security/security covering royal palaces' - that wouldn't be the sob story he's trying to portray.

Thankfully Charles hasn't done that. He has no say. He's not in Special Protection.

Listen to Michelle obamas podcast interview with Stephen Bartlett, this is literally what she said. There are snippets of it all over tiktok if you don’t want to listen to the whole thing.

they could pay for it, or presumably leave them at home as the White House is obviously secure. She talks in detail about it and it isn’t the first time she’s talked about all the things they had to pay for in the White House

Yes, the judgement was published. You can read most of it, some parts have been redacted for security reasons.
You can read the summary of the judges findings involved in the judicial review.

Anyone can imagine imaginary situations.

Harry really doesn't help himself, does he? There are things he has done he can never take back now. He made things riskier for himself calling the Taliban he killed in the army chess pieces. Then there's all the digs at the royals, the push for a big media presence in the US and the claims of racism from senior royals, while trying to play the victim (wonder who coached him on that?) - all of it just draws in the wrong kind of attention from the wrong type of people.

He's a loose cannon the UK has no control over. By trying to cash in on dramatic stories, he's putting himself, Meghan, and the kids in more danger. Why should others be expected to step in and protect him from himself when it is likely he will stab them in back again and again?

It is only going to get worse. I have no doubts Harry is already planning his next steps either with publishers or netflix for when William ascends the throne. Attracting more undesirable attention.

She had to pay for their "plane ticket" as it were on her assigned first lady aircraft which seems a little weird tbh but I'm not American

They also had to pay for their own food at the Whitehouse but not the staff wages

Margaret thatcher once said they tried to charge her for an ironing board at number ten (as she was leaving) and she had to prove she bought her own in 😂 so I guess all governments are penny pinchers

Imagine arguing against your child and grandchildren having security

So how do you know it doesn’t work the same here as standard ie Harry would be protected and Megan and the kids would not?

which is what multiple posters have said would never happen.

Whose anger? Harry's? Yes, he's been highly critical of all the senior royals bar Andrew. Strange.

You can't seriously believe that the minor children of a sitting president do not get police protection. Can you?

Of course this wasn't paid for privately! Don't be daft!

Because it is ridiculous, we are not America, how America runs their National security has nothing to do with this thread.