Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

If charles cant influence anything, why did harry say in the interview that charles is not talking to him precisely because of this security thing.

So charles is not neutral on the issue. He is obviously against what harry wants

Can you imagine if Harry did have access to this? It would be all over People Magazine within the hour.

One side is acting as if he won’t have security at all, the other is acting like a 28 day notice is completely reasonable. Coronations, funerals, and court dates don’t come with 28 day notices. Sure, Harry can plan a family visit ahead of time, and he shouldn’t pretend otherwise. Nor should we pretend that Harry’s kids missing their grandfather’s coronation and great-grandmother’s funeral is nothing, because they couldn’t give a 28 day notice.

The only people in the UK legally permitted to carry firearms are police close protection officers. Naturally the police only employ/train/maintain only as many as are required. They are paid in the same way as all other police officers. There isn’t a ‘rent a firearm CP officer’ department with spare ones just waiting around for someone who lives by choice in a far more dangerous country, to come and visit. Weirdly, police officers are allowed annual leave and days off. However much Harry thinks he can ‘pay’ for some armed cops when he flits over (not sure how as the police don’t generally sell things), they will have to come from somewhere.

People have explained this to him, repeatedly. The UK is in an economic mess, public services decimated, as it is god knows what the court cases have cost us!

Why does he think he will only be a target when he comes to the UK? Terrorists can travel I believe? Or is he asking for permanent CP officers with him and his family full time? I think it is just him wanting his ‘status’ (that he supposedly refused) to be recognised and his resentment at being the spare. Quit while you’re onto a good thing you over privileged little boy, enjoy the vast wealth you already have that most of us will never experience, and stop asking the British public to support you doing fuck all for the UK.

One of my team got told she has bowel cancer yesterday. She served 30 years in the police and came back as police staff 18 months ago. Without a load of work from me and my department, policy says she goes onto half pay then nil pay very soon: reading about this clueless rich kid really gives me a bad taste in my mouth.

No Charles can not !
the queen wrote and asked politely ( the limit of the monarch powers in this case )
and they refused.
the monarchy in the U.K. do not have the power to interfere or command the government or parliament to do anything.

Obviously.

Obviously no evidence

A, because he’s a freeloader and wants to rip off the British taxpayer even though he doesn’t even live here.

B, if he did, that’s one less ‘cause’ he’d be able to show martyrdom on and miss out ln regularly selling interviews to the media

That doesn't seem obvious to me at all.

What's your evidence?

Yes I completely agree. It seems fairly obvious the king has influenced this

He does, just not on the terms he wants. He either doesn’t understand or chooses not to or he’s telling porkies.

They contribute to the cost of policing to maintain order and crowd control on match days.

That's not at all the same thing as paying for armed specialist close protection officers with access to intelligence briefings.

Its assessed on need. But as hes said hes not a working member of the royal family, do they feel any need to give security to harry?

Harrys doing nothing for the royal family, so why would the royal family and met do anything for harry?

And im sure charles can of course influence any security decision

It's not just the physical security, it's also about access to relevant intelligence.

That’s not the same security. Lots of people pay the police to attend to keep peace- carnivals , football games etc but that’s a gang of uninformed officers not close 24/7 protection against kidnap or assassination.

they’re just different services. No one can pay for the second service

Figure/estimate I saw recently (will try to find link to article later) was something along the lines of £400,000 per annum for 24/7/365 per protected individual.

On that basis, and as the article pointed out, you can very quickly get to a million p.a. if you want to provide every member of a even a small family with their own individual protection officers...

Edit to link..on a speed reread probably even more expensive than I thought:

https://www.westminstersecurity.co.uk/close-protection/royalty-and-specialist-protection/

Don't football clubs pay the police for security?

I can’t believe anyone is so petty they would deny this request for him to pay for his own security in the U.K so that he can be sure that team have access to the intelligence that would keep his family safe. Let’s not forget, the initial request was for his own security to be given access to that information and it was denied.

National Security is not for sale and rightly so, how about a Russian Oligarch wanting access to British intelligence when they are over in London for a jolly?

to be really honest, I don’t care about the security prince Harry has on any level. It doesn’t make any difference to me whether he has full on sas or wanders around on the underground.

it’s just interesting in terms of current affairs, and the legal process.

the Michelle Obama comment was one simple comment to respond to the idea they wouldn’t put Harry in a limo and Megan in another car because that’s so outrageously ridiculous when well, it’s not outrageously ridiculous at all. However, you made it into a big thing when it wasn’t.

Yes, it is interesting. I watched it on the live feed. He had a very good barrister. The judges decision went against him, however. The ruling was that RAVEC acted properly, as did the Home Office, and Harry's "grievance" did not constitute a case.

I simply asked a question relevant to the discussion, unlike Michelle Obama's podcast.

Harry's security arrangements seem very fair and reasonable to me. Do you not think that to be the case?

I wonder how much it would cost Harry for 24/7 365 days per year Met armed security? Any ideas? Pretty sure even Harry’s deep pockets would struggle and of course he wouldn’t expect to pay for it despite his lame throwaway claim that he would.

Harry had a very expensive and very capable Barrister. She argued his case well - I watched her, she was excellent.
She lost.

You seem really eager to box posters into “pro harry” boxes and deride them for the views you think they have.

If 'anyone could successfully' argue this, why was his case thrown out of court by 3 High Court justices?

It seems his lawyers very much failed to 'successfully argue' their case.

And obviously individuals cannot be allowed to hire the police privately! You can't possibly believe otherwise, can you?