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Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

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jennylamb1 · 03/05/2025 14:36

Don’t get it. He says that he can’t ever visit the UK again because his security won’t be provided. Loads of celebrities and high profile business people pay for their own security, why should tax payers pay for his security when he isn’t a working royal anymore?

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YourLoyalPlumOP · 03/05/2025 20:58

IdaGlossop · 03/05/2025 14:41

Harry is not painting the full picture. His security is paid by the tax payer when he comes to the UK, provided he gives 28 days notice so there is time to complete a threat assessment. He can't pay because it would set a precedent for wealthy people to buy government services.

This is why!

this and the armed thing. But really it’s so no one can buy the police protection

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 03/05/2025 20:58

IcedPurple · 03/05/2025 20:51

What Harry truly wants is to be equal to his brother.

And that is something no amount of money can buy.

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That too, and true. And now, even if William dropped dead Harry still wouldn't get what he wants and become heir to the throne, because William's children take precedence over him.

GoodOldTrayBake, how exactly are the royal family supposed to protect Harry's children from kidnapping when those children are in America? Indeed, if Meghan allowed her children to be brought to the UK how would you expect the royal family to protect them from being kidnapped? The Home Office might do so by providing them with armed security while they were in the country; the royal family do not have the power to provide them or anyone else with armed security. RTFT for goodness' sake!

IcedPurple · 03/05/2025 20:57

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 03/05/2025 20:56

Harry and Meghan are the only ones ‘putting them at kidnap risk’. If they were in the UK they would get appropriate police protection.

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This time last year, they were happy to leave their children in California while they went on a jolly on another continent.

Ukisgaslit · 03/05/2025 20:57

Andrew is protected
Harry and his family are not

MrsLeonFarrell · 03/05/2025 20:57

Ukisgaslit · 03/05/2025 20:54

I think Harry had several motives re the case.
One was making clear to the UK public , if he lost, that the Windsors are happy to pay to keep Andrew safe but they snatched any security from Harry as soon as made clear that he was leaving .
You can see the twisted thinking reflected in the unfiltered thoughts of some royalists ( “at least Andrew keeps his mouth shut”)
Harry doesn’t have security now ( applying in advance each time and having each application considered is no security)
I think they don’t want him in the uk because he shows the rest of them up and they hope he’ll be forgotten about in exile . He won’t - he’ll be a thorn in their side . Good .

Andrew doesn't get security paid for by anyone but himself but he does live on the Windsor estate within the security cordon. This is probably why Harry and Meghan were given Frogmore Cottage, it's much cheaper to have royal homes in one place.

IcedPurple · 03/05/2025 20:56

Ukisgaslit · 03/05/2025 20:54

I think Harry had several motives re the case.
One was making clear to the UK public , if he lost, that the Windsors are happy to pay to keep Andrew safe but they snatched any security from Harry as soon as made clear that he was leaving .
You can see the twisted thinking reflected in the unfiltered thoughts of some royalists ( “at least Andrew keeps his mouth shut”)
Harry doesn’t have security now ( applying in advance each time and having each application considered is no security)
I think they don’t want him in the uk because he shows the rest of them up and they hope he’ll be forgotten about in exile . He won’t - he’ll be a thorn in their side . Good .

Harry doesn’t have security now ( applying in advance each time and having each application considered is no security)

He lives as a private citizen 8 time zones away.

Are you suggesting in demand specialist protection officers should be on standby in case he decides to pop over on a whim?

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 03/05/2025 20:56

GoodOldTrayBake · 03/05/2025 20:52

Poor Harry. The Royal Family are such a bunch of bitter cunts. Happy to stand by and allow those little children to be a kidnap risk and do nothing to protect their own flesh and blood. Shame on them.

Harry and Meghan are the only ones ‘putting them at kidnap risk’. If they were in the UK they would get appropriate police protection.

MrsLeonFarrell · 03/05/2025 20:55

GoodOldTrayBake · 03/05/2025 20:52

Poor Harry. The Royal Family are such a bunch of bitter cunts. Happy to stand by and allow those little children to be a kidnap risk and do nothing to protect their own flesh and blood. Shame on them.

They. Receive. Security. When. They. Visit. The. UK.

Ukisgaslit · 03/05/2025 20:54

I think Harry had several motives re the case.
One was making clear to the UK public , if he lost, that the Windsors are happy to pay to keep Andrew safe but they snatched any security from Harry as soon as made clear that he was leaving .
You can see the twisted thinking reflected in the unfiltered thoughts of some royalists ( “at least Andrew keeps his mouth shut”)
Harry doesn’t have security now ( applying in advance each time and having each application considered is no security)
I think they don’t want him in the uk because he shows the rest of them up and they hope he’ll be forgotten about in exile . He won’t - he’ll be a thorn in their side . Good .

TheMeasure · 03/05/2025 20:54

GoodOldTrayBake · 03/05/2025 20:52

Poor Harry. The Royal Family are such a bunch of bitter cunts. Happy to stand by and allow those little children to be a kidnap risk and do nothing to protect their own flesh and blood. Shame on them.

Why don't you educate yourself as to the actual facts of the case, rather than make a fool of yourself spouting stuff like that?

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 03/05/2025 20:53

GoodOldTrayBake · 03/05/2025 20:52

Poor Harry. The Royal Family are such a bunch of bitter cunts. Happy to stand by and allow those little children to be a kidnap risk and do nothing to protect their own flesh and blood. Shame on them.

Perhaps they should lock them up in the tower to keep them safe?

GoodOldTrayBake · 03/05/2025 20:52

Poor Harry. The Royal Family are such a bunch of bitter cunts. Happy to stand by and allow those little children to be a kidnap risk and do nothing to protect their own flesh and blood. Shame on them.

IcedPurple · 03/05/2025 20:51

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 03/05/2025 20:47

IBelieveinSomething
The king needs to pay for whatever security he wants.

Unfortunately it would not be possible for King Charles, or anyone else, to pay for what Harry wants, because it is not possible in this country for anyone to buy Harry what he wants. Either Harry is assessed by RAVEC as needing what he wants, or he is not assessed as needing what he wants, and nobody can alter their assessment just by offering them money.

What Harry truly wants is to be equal to his brother.

And that is something no amount of money can buy.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 03/05/2025 20:47

IBelieveinSomething
The king needs to pay for whatever security he wants.

Unfortunately it would not be possible for King Charles, or anyone else, to pay for what Harry wants, because it is not possible in this country for anyone to buy Harry what he wants. Either Harry is assessed by RAVEC as needing what he wants, or he is not assessed as needing what he wants, and nobody can alter their assessment just by offering them money.

Nottodaythankyou123 · 03/05/2025 20:44

JoyousEagle · 03/05/2025 20:33

Really? The Bowes-Lyons were descended from the Careys? I also find that very interesting, with the Catherine Carey/Henry VIII theory. That’s a great fact.

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Yep, think she was Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon’s 10th or 11th great grandmother. I believe Princess Diana was also a direct descendant so when Prince William takes the throne, there’ll be double Boleyn bloodline on the throne. To think, Mary’s family outcast her and our current royal family lives on through her. Sorry, historical detail over!!

IBelieveinSomething · 03/05/2025 20:44

justasking111 · 03/05/2025 20:43

Guns are strictly controlled in the UK I can't see that changing.

Rightly so.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 20:44

IBelieveinSomething · 03/05/2025 20:41

but ok. I know armed security in uk is rightly restricted.

Not just restricted, illegal.

justasking111 · 03/05/2025 20:43

Guns are strictly controlled in the UK I can't see that changing.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 20:43

IBelieveinSomething · 03/05/2025 20:41

I’m not sure that Scotland Yard or the met are the only ones to provide suitable security.

In the UK, it is illegal for private close protection operatives, including bodyguards, to carry firearms. The private possession of firearms is banned, and only the police and armed forces are permitted to carry guns. This includes firearms like handguns, as well as other weapons like pepper spray, mace, batons, and tasers

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 20:41

No one can buy or pay for met police armed security, not even the King.

IBelieveinSomething · 03/05/2025 20:41

but ok. I know armed security in uk is rightly restricted.

IBelieveinSomething · 03/05/2025 20:41

I’m not sure that Scotland Yard or the met are the only ones to provide suitable security.

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 20:40

IBelieveinSomething · 03/05/2025 20:39

And pay for them.

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That’s the whole point though, no one can buy it. They won’t provide it for money, no matter whose it is.

IBelieveinSomething · 03/05/2025 20:39

IBelieveinSomething · 03/05/2025 20:39

i am sure he could try and put suitable arrangements in place :-)

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And pay for them.

IBelieveinSomething · 03/05/2025 20:39

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 20:38

The king can’t pay for it either.

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i am sure he could try and put suitable arrangements in place :-)