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Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

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jennylamb1 · 03/05/2025 14:36

Don’t get it. He says that he can’t ever visit the UK again because his security won’t be provided. Loads of celebrities and high profile business people pay for their own security, why should tax payers pay for his security when he isn’t a working royal anymore?

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/05/2025 22:06

I forget the figures, but his cover would involve a full complement of four teams who cover the week in shifts, including weekends and holidays. So at least 8 people full-time. Furthermore, they would need accommodation for themselves (and for long term stays / permanent relocation their families). This would be far more expensive than anything provided to any royal at present. The officers would also need special diplomatic visas to work overseas, which would be tricky for protecting a private citizen living permanently in another country. Lastly, while Harry thinks his father has the power to override Ravec, he doesn’t and wouldn’t. It would upset our constitution.

Jeez how much would that lot cost the British tax payer!

Kinkyroots · 03/05/2025 22:05

Smallmercies · 03/05/2025 22:02

You can't do close protection for your own wife and children 🙄

It was a joke, obviously. He wouldn’t get past vetting.

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 03/05/2025 22:03

Smallmercies · 03/05/2025 22:02

You can't do close protection for your own wife and children 🙄

You think that is the problem with that plan? 😂

Theunamedcat · 03/05/2025 22:03

Ukisgaslit · 03/05/2025 20:57

Andrew is protected
Harry and his family are not

Andrew isn't protected Google it

Smallmercies · 03/05/2025 22:02

Kinkyroots · 03/05/2025 22:00

Maybe Harry could go on a Police Degree Apprenticeship and then work towards becoming a firearms officer, and then on to do close protection?

He seems stuck as to something to do and this could be a win:win!

You can't do close protection for your own wife and children 🙄

Smallmercies · 03/05/2025 22:01

CatsWhiskerz · 03/05/2025 15:36

@notanothernamechange24 - kidnap plots?!
Even so, the security WOULD be provided IF deemed necessary - I personally would be furious if millions and millions was spent each year to provide unucessary security for Harry and Megain to sell jams and spew their lies - they're not working royals, they stepped back, they moved away and changed their lives, so they get on with it I'm afraid

Well, if you PERSONALLY would be furious, that settles it! 😅

Kinkyroots · 03/05/2025 22:00

Maybe Harry could go on a Police Degree Apprenticeship and then work towards becoming a firearms officer, and then on to do close protection?

He seems stuck as to something to do and this could be a win:win!

Blueskies25 · 03/05/2025 21:56

IdaGlossop · 03/05/2025 14:41

Harry is not painting the full picture. His security is paid by the tax payer when he comes to the UK, provided he gives 28 days notice so there is time to complete a threat assessment. He can't pay because it would set a precedent for wealthy people to buy government services.

I don’t think wealthy people can just buy government security services.

IBelieveinSomething · 03/05/2025 21:49

I was being facetious.

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 03/05/2025 21:48

Ukisgaslit · 03/05/2025 21:35

What work is Andrew doing to justify his taxpayer funded security ?

Charles paid out millions for years to keep Andrew safe after Andrew’s close association with Epstein was uncovered . Millions
Then Andrew was said to have made some lucrative deals in the Middle East ( all from royal lodge we assume ) and suddenly had money to fund some security . Andrew also enjoys the tax payer funded security we all pay for at Windsor .

Andrew doesn’t get tax payer funded security beyond that due to being on a royal estate.

Kinkyroots · 03/05/2025 21:45

IBelieveinSomething · 03/05/2025 20:38

That would lead to a reconciliation and they would all live happily ever after!

So you want KC to pay the police budget out of his personal funds? You can’t rent a cop ffs!

binkie163 · 03/05/2025 21:40

TURNYOURCAPSLOCKOFF · 03/05/2025 21:31

They do have suitable protection.

He is not at greater risk than russian oligarchs in London. They have excellent security and all going about their business. Mostly avoiding plutonium poisoning.
Edited to say that was in reply to the previous post by pinkart.

Ukisgaslit · 03/05/2025 21:35

snowmichael · 03/05/2025 21:25

Because he wants to be treated as special without pitting in the work in to actually be special

What work is Andrew doing to justify his taxpayer funded security ?

Charles paid out millions for years to keep Andrew safe after Andrew’s close association with Epstein was uncovered . Millions
Then Andrew was said to have made some lucrative deals in the Middle East ( all from royal lodge we assume ) and suddenly had money to fund some security . Andrew also enjoys the tax payer funded security we all pay for at Windsor .

TURNYOURCAPSLOCKOFF · 03/05/2025 21:31

PinkArt · 03/05/2025 16:54

If that's the level of security they is required to keep them safe, yes we should. I would guess that Harry and his family are at higher risk than say Edward's kids, which presumably is all part of the risk assessment, but they should all have suitable protection.

They do have suitable protection.

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 21:27

binkie163 · 03/05/2025 21:12

It's no secret that you can hire private security firms. Many of my customers in central London have private security, you get what you pay for, I would feel safer with these chaps over the Met any day.
They have impeccable manners, look like fashion models but dangerous. Harry could hire chaps like this if he can afford it or ask his dad. Security and concierge business is big money in London. However Harry thinks you and me should pay for it sod that.

Harry’s case was based on him wanting to pay for it

snowmichael · 03/05/2025 21:25

Because he wants to be treated as special without pitting in the work in to actually be special

HonoriaBulstrode · 03/05/2025 21:22

It's no secret that you can hire private security firms.

Of course you can. But they can't (legally) carry guns in the UK and they won't have access to intelligence. Only the police can do those things, and as has been said repeatedly, they are not for sale or hire.

YourLoyalPlumOP · 03/05/2025 21:15

JoyousEagle · 03/05/2025 17:08

The exact arrangements he would like. For example, he has to let them know in advance so that the security can be arranged. He doesn’t want to do this.

Did he say why he doesn’t want TJ give them the time in advance?

Genevieva · 03/05/2025 21:14

He does have his own private security at present and will continue to do so. He can even bring them to the U.K. as other famous people do. They just can’t carry firearms.

Also the Met continue to monitor security threats against him and will provide security upon his return to the U.K. if he provides 28 days notice and they deem it necessary. So he maintains a more privileged security position than the many other famous people who live here or visit. For exemple I imagine JK Rowling faces significant threats and provides her one private security without any expectation of state support.

Although he briefly posited the idea of paying for Met security himself, it isn’t a service that is for sale and he wouldn’t be affordable for it. What the case ended up being about was whether Ravec made the correct decision regarding the withdrawal of his fully taxpayer funded global protection.

I forget the figures, but his cover would involve a full complement of four teams who cover the week in shifts, including weekends and holidays. So at least 8 people full-time. Furthermore, they would need accommodation for themselves (and for long term stays / permanent relocation their families). This would be far more expensive than anything provided to any royal at present. The officers would also need special diplomatic visas to work overseas, which would be tricky for protecting a private citizen living permanently in another country. Lastly, while Harry thinks his father has the power to override Ravec, he doesn’t and wouldn’t. It would upset our constitution.

LivelyMintViper · 03/05/2025 21:14

AquaPeer · 03/05/2025 18:44

Oh I don’t know, probably because it is not exactly the same people in exactly same situation? 🤔

Really? Exactly what is different?

binkie163 · 03/05/2025 21:12

IBelieveinSomething · 03/05/2025 20:39

i am sure he could try and put suitable arrangements in place :-)

It's no secret that you can hire private security firms. Many of my customers in central London have private security, you get what you pay for, I would feel safer with these chaps over the Met any day.
They have impeccable manners, look like fashion models but dangerous. Harry could hire chaps like this if he can afford it or ask his dad. Security and concierge business is big money in London. However Harry thinks you and me should pay for it sod that.

MoominMai · 03/05/2025 21:12

So according to the Guardian, instead of the automatic full security reserved for senior working Royals, Harry and his family would experience as explained below:

The Sussexes would receive a “bespoke” security service, whereby they would be required to give 30 days’ notice of any plans to travel to the UK, with each visit being assessed for threat levels and whether protection is needed

Why is there such a strong sense of victimhood here? Can’t see what the issue is.

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 03/05/2025 21:05

That too, and true. And now, even if William dropped dead Harry still wouldn't get what he wants and become heir to the throne, because William's children take precedence over him.

I think the UK would become a republic before Harry ascended to the throne.

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 03/05/2025 21:01

Ukisgaslit · 03/05/2025 20:57

Andrew is protected
Harry and his family are not

Andrew pays for his own security
Harry and his family pay for their own security in California using some of the tens of millions they made by selling his family’s privacy and increasing the risk to others including the young children George, Charlotte and Louis

YourLoyalPlumOP · 03/05/2025 21:01

BlueandWhitePorcelain · 03/05/2025 15:19

We can’t see how he feels safer in the US, where anybody can buy a gun, compared to here? Trump was shot in the ear last year - presumably a near miss for a fatal shot to the head? Who is likely to have more security than Trump?

We talked about risk. DH missed the IRA bomb at London Bridge by 15 minutes. He was in Kings Cross when he heard the bomb on the bus go off - the very area, he used to walk through every day on his way to the office. He was late getting up that day! His office was on Shaftesbury Avenue and the police regularly cleared the area, due to bomb threats.

I should have caught the train in the Wembley train crash. There were two trains on the platform and that was the first out. I was too tired to walk the length of the second train to get on it, when probably all the seats had gone. I decided to get on the train at the back and have a sit down. Later, they led us along the tracks at Wembley past the train crash.

Anybody in London in particular can be in the wrong place at the wrong time and get stabbed?

I was meant to fly out on 9/11 to Boston.

just wasn’t meant to be

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