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Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

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jennylamb1 · 03/05/2025 14:36

Don’t get it. He says that he can’t ever visit the UK again because his security won’t be provided. Loads of celebrities and high profile business people pay for their own security, why should tax payers pay for his security when he isn’t a working royal anymore?

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CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 12/05/2025 21:14

Anne was born third in line to the throne, as was Edward, neither of then got 24/7 security.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 12/05/2025 19:25

Bigcat25 · 12/05/2025 18:49

But he's special, he's royalty!/s.

Oooh... why doesn't he just say so then? I'm sure everyone would do as he wanted if he did.

Bigcat25 · 12/05/2025 18:49

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 12/05/2025 17:14

He is no longer third in line to the throne, and has chosen to repudiate his family and sell them out in a big and very public way. My heart quite fails to bleed for him; I feel more concern for people who didn't choose to be born with malformed limbs because their mothers took thalidomide during pregnancy, or people who didn't choose to be born gay in Kenya or Russia, or people who didn't choose to be born into families in North Korea without enough to eat (or in North Korea at all, come to that). Harry Windsor really has very little to gripe about when compared with a large proportion of the human race.

He needs to put a little motto on his wall and meditate on it daily:
"I wept because I had no shoes
Until I met a man who had no feet."
Harry would not know what having no shoes means, unlike a lot of people in India....

And if he STFU, the media would soon lose interest in him, because he really isn't particularly interesting.

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But he's special, he's royalty!/s.

jeffgoldblum · 12/05/2025 18:11

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 12/05/2025 17:53

Very wise.

They do seem not to see how a gotcha sometimes doesn't work at all.

Not at all ! 🤷‍♀️

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 12/05/2025 17:53

Very wise.

They do seem not to see how a gotcha sometimes doesn't work at all.

jeffgoldblum · 12/05/2025 17:47

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 12/05/2025 17:44

I rather thought at the time (back in the eighties) that what the press was mostly interested in was seeing if they could break up Andrew's marriage. After they'd succeeded they rather lost interest in him. until he behaved (or was accused of behaving: we never heard the evidence because the case was settled out of court) in a way which meant they had an actual reason to shine a bright light on his doings.

I’m not going down that hole!!! 🤣
but I’m often struck by comments that posters make about Harry that could have been made about Andrew!

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 12/05/2025 17:44

I rather thought at the time (back in the eighties) that what the press was mostly interested in was seeing if they could break up Andrew's marriage. After they'd succeeded they rather lost interest in him. until he behaved (or was accused of behaving: we never heard the evidence because the case was settled out of court) in a way which meant they had an actual reason to shine a bright light on his doings.

jeffgoldblum · 12/05/2025 17:25

I hate to point this out but … Andrew was born second in line to the throne, the press took great interest in him too!
until they didn’t… and then they did!

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 12/05/2025 17:14

nomas · 12/05/2025 17:07

Because they weren’t born as third in line to the throne. The media takes a much bigger interest in Harry.

He is no longer third in line to the throne, and has chosen to repudiate his family and sell them out in a big and very public way. My heart quite fails to bleed for him; I feel more concern for people who didn't choose to be born with malformed limbs because their mothers took thalidomide during pregnancy, or people who didn't choose to be born gay in Kenya or Russia, or people who didn't choose to be born into families in North Korea without enough to eat (or in North Korea at all, come to that). Harry Windsor really has very little to gripe about when compared with a large proportion of the human race.

He needs to put a little motto on his wall and meditate on it daily:
"I wept because I had no shoes
Until I met a man who had no feet."
Harry would not know what having no shoes means, unlike a lot of people in India....

And if he STFU, the media would soon lose interest in him, because he really isn't particularly interesting.

nomas · 12/05/2025 17:07

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 12/05/2025 16:47

So what? There are plenty of other people who were born into the royal family who don't get 24/7/52 armed guards paid for by us whenever they fancy them.

Because they weren’t born as third in line to the throne. The media takes a much bigger interest in Harry.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 12/05/2025 16:47

nomas · 12/05/2025 16:37

Because he didn’t ask to be born into the Royal family.

So what? There are plenty of other people who were born into the royal family who don't get 24/7/52 armed guards paid for by us whenever they fancy them.

nomas · 12/05/2025 16:37

jennylamb1 · 03/05/2025 14:36

Don’t get it. He says that he can’t ever visit the UK again because his security won’t be provided. Loads of celebrities and high profile business people pay for their own security, why should tax payers pay for his security when he isn’t a working royal anymore?

Because he didn’t ask to be born into the Royal family.

Lavenderfarmcottage · 12/05/2025 16:18

IdaGlossop · 04/05/2025 18:15

Ahhh, Donald Trump. Of course.

Nope just a typo/mistake as I was writing very early morning overseas and tired. I meant head of the COE.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/05/2025 16:30

Quite apart from what she knew from the jobs she did before she was PM.

StClabberts · 06/05/2025 16:04

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 06/05/2025 15:56

I suspect all PMs get intelligence briefings pretty much the moment they step through the doors at Number 10; they have to be able to make decisions on such matters immediately should the need arise.

Absolutely. It's completely idiotic to pretend anyone who's been PM doesn't have information that could compromise all of us.

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 06/05/2025 15:56

DdraigGoch · 06/05/2025 15:52

She's a member of the Privy Council. She was in office long enough to be briefed on many things that may be of interest to the Russians.

I suspect all PMs get intelligence briefings pretty much the moment they step through the doors at Number 10; they have to be able to make decisions on such matters immediately should the need arise.

DdraigGoch · 06/05/2025 15:52

Lucelady · 03/05/2025 16:59

You are quite wrong here. Liz Truss was not in office long enough to know Jack anything.
Harry is ex services plus a Royal*. He chose the former. That was not a wise move. I have worked close to these people and we have an obligation to this man even if it just about decency.

  • he's not an ex royal, he never will be.

She's a member of the Privy Council. She was in office long enough to be briefed on many things that may be of interest to the Russians.

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 06/05/2025 13:08

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/05/2025 12:06

It really does sometimes feel as if Harry has a size twelve ego in a size three soul.

Brilliant 🤌👍

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/05/2025 12:06

It really does sometimes feel as if Harry has a size twelve ego in a size three soul.

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 05/05/2025 23:44

‘International Protected Persons’ are defined by a UN convention and Act of Parliament as:

(a)a person who at the time of the alleged offence is a Head of State, a member of a body which performs the functions of Head of State under the constitution of the State, a Head of Government or a Minister for Foreign Affairs and is outside the territory of the State in which he holds office;
(b)a person who at the time of the alleged offence is a representative or an offical of a State or an offical or agent of an international organisation of an intergovernmental character, is entitled under international law to special protection from attack on his person, freedom or dignity and does not fall within the preceding paragraph;
(c)a person who at the time of the alleged offence is a member of the family of another person mentioned in either of the preceding paragraphs and—
(i)if the other person is mentioned in paragraph (a) above, is accompanying him,
(ii)if the other person is mentioned in paragraph (b) above, is a member of his household

Harry does not fit within this definition as he is not a head of state nor a representative of the state. As I mentioned, this is defined by international UN convention; it is not something that can be adjusted to include Harry. Though this might explain why he feels he is protected if invited by his family - IPP status extends to family members accompanying IPP.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1978/17

Internationally Protected Persons Act 1978

An Act to implement the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Crimes against Internationally Protected Persons adopted by the United Nations General Assembly in 1973.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1978/17

MidwestCindy · 05/05/2025 22:41

It looks like he is trying to get his Internationally Protection Person status
back. That would mean local authorities/British protection would protect him and his family anywhere in the world continually without him having to pay anything. He lost that protection at Megxit.

BlueandWhitePorcelain · 05/05/2025 17:09

@Lavenderfarmcottage

You don’t just expect the royals to work, you expect them to dance and live in the public eye and create entertainment for you.

Edward VIII abdicated. He walked away. Harry could have gone off to California, lived in Montecito, bringing up the children and keeping the chickens, as an ordinary citizen and keeping his mouth shut, given they wanted “privacy”. They would have faded out of people’s memories. I had no idea where Gene Hackman, one of the most highly regarded American actors of his generation, was living after he retired from films, until his unfortunate death!

Instead, M & H have given world famous interviews, Harry’s written a highly publicised book, and Harry shot his mouth off, about his time in the armed forces. Some of that risk, Harry has ramped up himself, through ill thought out public statements.

SummerDaysOnTheWay · 05/05/2025 15:42

Leafy3 · 04/05/2025 10:34

Slight tangent, but I find it interesting how the very wealthy & privileged are perfectly happy for taxpayers to fund their security but baulk at paying adequate tax for the NHS & state schools...

💯

FenellaFeldman · 04/05/2025 20:46

CathyorClaire · 04/05/2025 20:46

Wonder if the Vatican knows

White smoke imminent ☕

😂😂

CathyorClaire · 04/05/2025 20:46

Wonder if the Vatican knows

White smoke imminent ☕

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