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Why are so many English people so cold and reserved?

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Seventell · 03/05/2025 08:35

Im English myself. But i havent lived In England for a long time.

Ive had a nice career and ive lived and worked all over Europe. I most recently, was living in Italy.

My female boss in italy was so nice.

The first day that i was there, she asked me what i liked to do, i said that i liked to go to art classes. She told me about all the art museums in the area.

She looked up art classes for me to go to.
She also used to bring in little cakes for me every day. She said things like "if you ever need help with anything, ask me" my other colleagues were all really nice to me aswell. They would invite me out for dinners, and they were all so kind.

Ive just moved back to England two weeks ago. Im just shocked! My boss here is so cold. But not just cold. He seems really emotionally stunted, like he is barely able to have a conversation.
My other colleagues are like that aswell. They are really cold.
Ive also gone out to groups and ive seen that english people are much colder in these groups, then people are in other countries that ive lived in

Its just made me think - what has happened to english people. A lot of them seem so emotionally stunted and emotionally damaged.

OP posts:
Seventell · 04/05/2025 16:26

Blueskies25 · 04/05/2025 16:09

Ive adjusted my own attitude at work.
I was very used to the open, emotional, very friendly way of my workplace in italy

In most work environments this kind of behaviour would be considered ‘too much’, a lot of people don’t see work colleagues as friends and don’t want to have open and emotional chats with them especially about personal issues and their personal lives

No the UK is definitely much more reserved in this regard, than other countries.

I worked in Spain aswell, before i worked in Italy. Everyone was much friendlier at work in spain aswell.

in the job in spain, everyone was friendly.

Except for two of my colleagues in thst job - who were English men. Everyone was friendly and chatty, except for two English men that i worked with. They were difficult to talk to and reserved. I found both of them very hard to talk to. Its just the UK culture.

Its just a completely different culture in the UK

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BitOutOfPractice · 04/05/2025 16:15

You read poetry with your boss? Ok.

Did you also scream in the Sistine Chapel?

Blueskies25 · 04/05/2025 16:09

Seventell · 04/05/2025 15:32

Ive adjusted my own attitude at work.

I was very used to the open, emotional, very friendly way of my workplace in italy.

Everyone was like my best friend. We all went out for dinners. We all laughed in the office, and I read poetry with my boss.

Im afraid that if im like that now, it will be seen as " too much "in my workplace in the UK.

So ive adjusted myself to become more reserved. Instead of going in and asking them about their week , their families, are they going anywhere nice on holiday this year. Ive just been talking to them about work. Its just a different culture. Theyre more reserved, so now im more reserved.

You do start to become like the people around you!

Ive adjusted my own attitude at work.
I was very used to the open, emotional, very friendly way of my workplace in italy

In most work environments this kind of behaviour would be considered ‘too much’, a lot of people don’t see work colleagues as friends and don’t want to have open and emotional chats with them especially about personal issues and their personal lives

Seventell · 04/05/2025 15:32

Ive adjusted my own attitude at work.

I was very used to the open, emotional, very friendly way of my workplace in italy.

Everyone was like my best friend. We all went out for dinners. We all laughed in the office, and I read poetry with my boss.

Im afraid that if im like that now, it will be seen as " too much "in my workplace in the UK.

So ive adjusted myself to become more reserved. Instead of going in and asking them about their week , their families, are they going anywhere nice on holiday this year. Ive just been talking to them about work. Its just a different culture. Theyre more reserved, so now im more reserved.

You do start to become like the people around you!

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Seventell · 04/05/2025 15:26

nocoolnamesleft · 04/05/2025 13:40

Your Italian boss sounds terribly intrusive.

I got on great with her, I have to say! We still talk now.

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Seventell · 04/05/2025 15:21

SophiasStableMabel · 04/05/2025 13:49

So you're not English. Hence your ridiculous post. FFS

Wow. Haha. I am English

I am English by law. I was born in England . I also have one parent who was born in England.

I have a UK passport.

Who are you to say im not English? How far back do you want to go ancestor wise, for someone to be english?

I bet that not all of your ancestors were born on this patch of land either! Everyones families have moved around at some stage.

Im English and im also one other nationality, and im complaining about the english side of my culture.

Everyone does that. We feel comfortable to complain about our own culture.

I have a friend who is swiss and spanish. She will complain about some spanish people never being on time. She likes that swiss people are always on time.

She still loves spanish people though of course. She just complains about what she sees as the negatives

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CarrieLite · 04/05/2025 14:51

SallyWD · 04/05/2025 09:05

Sorry, but I'm a southerner who now lives up north in Yorkshire and I've noticed a real difference. Strangers are more likely to chat to me in the street here. If I get on a bus here, it's not unusual for people to chat to each other. I never saw that down south.
Of course many southerners are outgoing and friendly and many northerners are unfriendly. I'm just saying I've noticed a difference in general. My DH is foreign and also noticed the difference. My southern friends who come and visit always comment on it too "Oh aren't people friendly up here?"
Having spent time in Newcastle and Liverpool, I'd say they're even friendlier than Yorkshire people!

I think being from Liverpool and living here all my life it's a bit of a culture shock when I go to other cities and people aren't as friendly. There's even a difference up the road in Manchester! 😂

SallyWD · 04/05/2025 13:56

ginasevern · 04/05/2025 13:53

Northern and southern Europeans express themselves in totally different ways. The former is traditionally more reserved while the latter is notoriously more demonstrative. Neither is right and neither is wrong. They are built on centuries of different histories, religious factors, cultural traditions and probably of greatest relevance - climate. There are people from both cultures capable of great kindness and people from both cultures who would walk over you at time of crisis. The further North you go, the more reserved the population. Have you ever visited Norway OP? If you think the English are stunted and damaged then you'd probably need medication to live there.

Very good post. It does seem to be a north/south thing and Beits certainly aren't reserved compared to some other northern Europeans (or even nationalities like the Japanese).
Neither is better. Being reserved doesn't make you cold. There are good and bad people from all countries.

ginasevern · 04/05/2025 13:53

Northern and southern Europeans express themselves in totally different ways. The former is traditionally more reserved while the latter is notoriously more demonstrative. Neither is right and neither is wrong. They are built on centuries of different histories, religious factors, cultural traditions and probably of greatest relevance - climate. There are people from both cultures capable of great kindness and people from both cultures who would walk over you at time of crisis. The further North you go, the more reserved the population. Have you ever visited Norway OP? If you think the English are stunted and damaged then you'd probably need medication to live there.

SophiasStableMabel · 04/05/2025 13:49

Seventell · 03/05/2025 09:21

Well im not fully english. Im mixed. I was born in england. But my parents werent english. They were both from other european countries.

And ive lived in a lot of different european countries.

I just moved to england and i feel so unhappy and lonely. People have been so cruel and cold to me.

Maybe it was a mistake to move here

So you're not English. Hence your ridiculous post. FFS

nocoolnamesleft · 04/05/2025 13:40

Your Italian boss sounds terribly intrusive.

ioveelephants · 04/05/2025 13:16

SapporoBaby · 03/05/2025 08:59

I also think it’s a bit fucked up to call strangers emotionally stunted and damaged’ because they’re not looking up art classes for their employee or inviting you over for dinner.

😂😂😂🙌🏼

HankAndThePoodle · 04/05/2025 12:55

It seems a little ridiculous to assume everyone in England is cold etc based on your interactions with a few people.

To challenge your view I work in a warm team of lovely people with an incredibly supportive manager. We laugh and joke at work, bring one another gifts/food. We hug, we socialise together.

I have a small social circle outside of work but I surround myself with positive, like minded people who bring joy to my life and fill up my cup. I hope that I do the same for them.

Maybe you just need to find a different group of people.

Syuni · 04/05/2025 12:35

The ‘south’ doesn’t stop at London.

Springtimehere · 04/05/2025 12:20

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Davros · 04/05/2025 11:49

@gamerchick and others. Give over on the casual bigotry against London and Londoners. We are bloody brilliant, friendly and helpful. Coz I sez so!

gamerchick · 04/05/2025 11:38

People sense those who are a bit needy and need their hands held a lot. They think those people will latch on to them and want to visit them at home and not leave.

But I've found places like London for example incredibly unfriendly in general. North it's better.

Try getting the cakes in for your colleagues if you want to get to know them better.

Harry12345 · 04/05/2025 11:33

Seventell · 03/05/2025 09:32

Youve never heard people say that english people are cold and reserved?

Surely youve heard of the saying

"English people have a stiff upper lip". Which is a very popular saying

That saying means that english people dont show much emotion.

That’s upper class posh British people, most working class would not be described as that

Harry12345 · 04/05/2025 11:29

Simonjt · 03/05/2025 09:05

Try living in Sweden for a bit!

The English being known for their stiff upper lip is for a reason, I think British people are fairly cold and reserved, my husband thinks the complete opposite. It just depends on what you’re normal is that you’re comparing someone to.

It’s crazy saying British people as Glaswegians are known to be the friendliest people, I’m not English but I’ve been to northern England and the people were warm and friendly. Had a different experience in London though

Away2000 · 04/05/2025 09:37

I think I need to get hired at your workplace then! 😂 I find work colleagues way too talkative, touchy, and intrusive, but then I work in healthcare so it seems to attract more of that personality type.

I do agree though that when I’m in south France/ Italy that people are more friendly than here. And for some reason I find it less annoying.

SallyWD · 04/05/2025 09:05

wellington77 · 04/05/2025 08:57

I wish some northerners wouldn’t say this. It’s a horrible stereotype of southern Englanders and it’s frankly not true. I’m from the midlands and I see no difference, just some people wanting to come across somehow “ superior in being welcoming” as if it’s a competition by doing down southerners. I see it as a bit of a chip on the shoulder type thing and it’s a real shame

Sorry, but I'm a southerner who now lives up north in Yorkshire and I've noticed a real difference. Strangers are more likely to chat to me in the street here. If I get on a bus here, it's not unusual for people to chat to each other. I never saw that down south.
Of course many southerners are outgoing and friendly and many northerners are unfriendly. I'm just saying I've noticed a difference in general. My DH is foreign and also noticed the difference. My southern friends who come and visit always comment on it too "Oh aren't people friendly up here?"
Having spent time in Newcastle and Liverpool, I'd say they're even friendlier than Yorkshire people!

wellington77 · 04/05/2025 08:57

CarrieLite · 03/05/2025 16:16

Where abouts in England have you moved to OP? I'm a scouser and it's definitely not like that in the North West! I have found people down south to be a bit "toffee nosed" as my nan used to say. 😂

I wish some northerners wouldn’t say this. It’s a horrible stereotype of southern Englanders and it’s frankly not true. I’m from the midlands and I see no difference, just some people wanting to come across somehow “ superior in being welcoming” as if it’s a competition by doing down southerners. I see it as a bit of a chip on the shoulder type thing and it’s a real shame

Botanybaby · 04/05/2025 08:54

Seventell · 03/05/2025 09:59

Im technically English in that i was born in england. But my parents (one is not English) moved away from england when i was aged 3. So i have an english influence, but ive never lived here in England as an adult, before this year

. So i had not lived in the English culture before.

And of course im not slating English people. Im just saying that the culture is very difficult to get used to.

Edited

You literally said English people are emotionally stunted

This post is so strange if it was about any other culture or race people would be kicking off screaming racism but as it's about England it's apparently fine

If you dislike this country so much go somewhere "nicer"

TimeForATerf · 04/05/2025 08:20

Why are English people so cold and reserved?
Why are Germans so humourless?
Why are Italians so dramatic and over emotive ?
Why are Eastern Europeans so rude?
Why are North Americans so superficial?
Why are all Australians so self congratulatory?

What a load of bull shit stereotyping OP. There’s good and bad the world over but if you’re not brought up in a culture then there’s a bloody good chance you don’t understand it or will fit in without trying to integrate and understand it and you can’t do that in a week.

curious79 · 04/05/2025 08:15

Being reserved and taking your time to know people doesn’t equal cold. It equals reserved.

some of the coldest people I have met - and I mean real froideur, don’t have time of day for you - were the Italian mums at my daughter’s school. All bubbly and lively in those initial social moments but absolutely no interest in actually deepening the relationship, very surface, and clung to one another. I’ve come to realise Italians do this very well - the show, the drama, the charm, but it belies where they really want the relationship to go. Often they’re just about very close family