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Why are so many English people so cold and reserved?

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Seventell · 03/05/2025 08:35

Im English myself. But i havent lived In England for a long time.

Ive had a nice career and ive lived and worked all over Europe. I most recently, was living in Italy.

My female boss in italy was so nice.

The first day that i was there, she asked me what i liked to do, i said that i liked to go to art classes. She told me about all the art museums in the area.

She looked up art classes for me to go to.
She also used to bring in little cakes for me every day. She said things like "if you ever need help with anything, ask me" my other colleagues were all really nice to me aswell. They would invite me out for dinners, and they were all so kind.

Ive just moved back to England two weeks ago. Im just shocked! My boss here is so cold. But not just cold. He seems really emotionally stunted, like he is barely able to have a conversation.
My other colleagues are like that aswell. They are really cold.
Ive also gone out to groups and ive seen that english people are much colder in these groups, then people are in other countries that ive lived in

Its just made me think - what has happened to english people. A lot of them seem so emotionally stunted and emotionally damaged.

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Seventell · 03/05/2025 20:42

BuildbyNumbere · 03/05/2025 20:40

🤣🤣 you need to look at yourself, lonely with no friends and colleagues have no interest … ask yourself why?!?’

Such a bully you are with your nasty words and your little laughing emojis. Still here stalking me? I have loads of friends thanks. I have no English friends. But i have friends from loads of other countries.

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BuildbyNumbere · 03/05/2025 20:40

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🤣🤣 you need to look at yourself, lonely with no friends and colleagues have no interest … ask yourself why?!?’

Seventell · 03/05/2025 20:39

Auroraloves · 03/05/2025 20:38

Why are you equating reserved people to being unfriendly and emotionless @Seventell

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I think some people that ive met, have been more than reserved, they have been unfriendly and cold.

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Auroraloves · 03/05/2025 20:38

Why are you equating reserved people to being unfriendly and emotionless @Seventell

Casperroonie · 03/05/2025 20:37

Seventell · 03/05/2025 08:35

Im English myself. But i havent lived In England for a long time.

Ive had a nice career and ive lived and worked all over Europe. I most recently, was living in Italy.

My female boss in italy was so nice.

The first day that i was there, she asked me what i liked to do, i said that i liked to go to art classes. She told me about all the art museums in the area.

She looked up art classes for me to go to.
She also used to bring in little cakes for me every day. She said things like "if you ever need help with anything, ask me" my other colleagues were all really nice to me aswell. They would invite me out for dinners, and they were all so kind.

Ive just moved back to England two weeks ago. Im just shocked! My boss here is so cold. But not just cold. He seems really emotionally stunted, like he is barely able to have a conversation.
My other colleagues are like that aswell. They are really cold.
Ive also gone out to groups and ive seen that english people are much colder in these groups, then people are in other countries that ive lived in

Its just made me think - what has happened to english people. A lot of them seem so emotionally stunted and emotionally damaged.

Maybe England is just not for you?

Seventell · 03/05/2025 20:37

Coldasicecreambutstillassweet · 03/05/2025 19:03

Come up north. Colder weather but warmer people ❤️

Thanks! Yeah i have been up north before and the people were definitely friendlier ip there!
Im down south at the moment with my job, but maybe i could movr later in the year.

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Seventell · 03/05/2025 20:30

HalloweenGrinch · 03/05/2025 20:19

Are you a driver, OP? I am always relieved to come home to the UK where drivers are largely polite and considerate, unlike the entire southern half of Europe!

And I say this as someone with dual nationality, married to someone else with dual nationality who has lived on 3 continents. I very much agree with PP regarding the difference between superficial level friendliness which never goes deeper but makes you feel welcome (very much the case in one European county i lived in - I have NO longterm friends dating from my time there), compared with British reserve hiding a slow burn deep care.

Of course I'm generalising too, there are nice people everywhere and arseholes everywhere. You need to find your tribe, but writing Brits off as emotionally stunted won't get you there. It is true that the further you are from London the more openly friendly people generally are in the UK, so you may be in a trickier place. But it is also true that people don't always want to make an effort with someone who is clearly 'passing through' and not planning to make a life there. If you are giving off these vibes, it might not help.

The best way to meet friendly open people is to volunteer for a community based activity.

I have been in the North of Enlgand before just to visit , and people were definitely a bit friendlier up there

Down south - its definitely more of a slow thing , getting to know people. Hopefully itll improve!

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Seventell · 03/05/2025 20:28

BuildbyNumbere · 03/05/2025 20:22

OP, you sound argumentative, rude and quite frankly, unpleasant. No wonder you are getting the cold shoulder 🤷🏻‍♀️

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As you feel happy to judge my character. Ill also judge yours

. You also sound rude, argumentative and unpleasant. You also sound snappy brash and definitely someone that I wouldn't ever want to be anywhere near.

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BuildbyNumbere · 03/05/2025 20:22

OP, you sound argumentative, rude and quite frankly, unpleasant. No wonder you are getting the cold shoulder 🤷🏻‍♀️

HalloweenGrinch · 03/05/2025 20:19

Are you a driver, OP? I am always relieved to come home to the UK where drivers are largely polite and considerate, unlike the entire southern half of Europe!

And I say this as someone with dual nationality, married to someone else with dual nationality who has lived on 3 continents. I very much agree with PP regarding the difference between superficial level friendliness which never goes deeper but makes you feel welcome (very much the case in one European county i lived in - I have NO longterm friends dating from my time there), compared with British reserve hiding a slow burn deep care.

Of course I'm generalising too, there are nice people everywhere and arseholes everywhere. You need to find your tribe, but writing Brits off as emotionally stunted won't get you there. It is true that the further you are from London the more openly friendly people generally are in the UK, so you may be in a trickier place. But it is also true that people don't always want to make an effort with someone who is clearly 'passing through' and not planning to make a life there. If you are giving off these vibes, it might not help.

The best way to meet friendly open people is to volunteer for a community based activity.

BuildbyNumbere · 03/05/2025 20:15

Oh please … if it’s so terrible, go back to Italy 🙄

creamandcookies2 · 03/05/2025 19:53

Seventell · 03/05/2025 10:36

I was replying to an australian lady on this thread. She was saying that she also thought that English people are reserved. I replied to her.

Are you saying that shes wrong too?

Yes English people are generally more reserved, especially in the south. But you didn't just say reserved you said 'emotionally stunted' (which is quite a leap,) and even cruel, which is ridiculous. Being reserved or introverted doesn't mean the same as cruel! I expect you're trying to find people up on purpose. Amd where do you live in England, why won't you answer?

Oh I've just seen your down south. Iv only liver in the north and heard the south are more reserved. It still doesn't mean they're emotionally stunted or cruel though. Very strange choice of words there.

LaDamaDeElche · 03/05/2025 19:40

I don’t think what you said is true at all. I also live in Spain and am from England originally and my DP is Spanish. He can’t believe how warm and friendly people are in shops etc when we go back to the uk. People are much more abrupt in Spain and the service level can’t even be compared to the uk. Spanish people are more animated, direct and talkative in general than people from the UK, but I don’t see this as warmth necessarily. It’s just how they are. English people can more reserved and polite in comparison, but again, this isn’t coldness, just cultural differences. Also in both countries there are vast swathes of people who don’t fit the stereotypes I’ve just described. I definitely think it’s a you thing to find English people cold on the whole. I actually find the opposite.

Feelinglow1 · 03/05/2025 19:32

I'm European and live in the UK and I don't agree with you at all- I've made the most amazing friends here and I find the English generally welcoming and polite.

mumtumfun · 03/05/2025 19:31

I probably come across a bit reserved if a new colleague came in. I am courteous of course but I don’t rush to be friends with everyone. I am a busy, tired middle aged mum with friends I have known since I was 3 and a big family. It isn’t personal!

Livelovebehappy · 03/05/2025 19:24

I’ve worked for many teams in my company over the years and have experienced many different environments, but mostly friendly and welcoming. You really can’t make a sweeping generalisation about a country based on a couple of experiences. Maybe you’ve been unlucky. Maybe your new colleagues think you’re a bit up yourself and comparing everything to other companies abroad you’ve worked in all the time, or maybe they just don’t like you…..

melsid · 03/05/2025 19:16

All English are not like that just like not all Italians are that nice either. We’ve just come back from Rome and I’ve never met such rude unfriendly people

BexAubs20 · 03/05/2025 19:13

I guess people have a lot on with their own lives, families, job & problems of their own. When you have lovely kind colleagues like your ones in Spain if of stayed. Obviously that’s not an option so maybe you could be the one to reach out and be kind and caring and considerate instead of expecting it to come to you. Have you made some nice little cakes for your colleagues? Treat people how you wish to be treated and all that!

Meadowfinch · 03/05/2025 19:03

And, incidentally, I made a huge Victoria sponge cake with fresh cream for my colleagues on Coronation Day, yet I am quite sure OP, if you met me, you would write me off as cold and unfriendly. You would be wrong.

Coldasicecreambutstillassweet · 03/05/2025 19:03

Seventell · 03/05/2025 18:27

No but im down south

Come up north. Colder weather but warmer people ❤️

Meadowfinch · 03/05/2025 18:53

God, I hate this assumption that because Brits don't go round hugging & kissing people and waving their arms, they don't care. It's so emotionally illiterate.

I was once called 'cold & aloof' by a former American boss. What he meant was I didn't fawn over him like his American employees. I did the job I was paid to do to the best of my ability.

I am neither cold nor unfeeling. I worked as a volunteer for a search and rescue team for 8 years, going out in all weathers to find people's missing loved ones. Sometimes for days on end in the cold and wet. If it was sadly a recovery rather than a rescue, I did that too to give families closure. I just didn't feel the need to make a fuss about it.

More recently, diagnosed with BC, I didn't take the six months sick leave my consultant offered to sign off. I was working for a small company where I was the only person who could do what I do and they needed me. 30 people's mortgages depended on the company staying in business so I took one day off per round of chemo, and a morning for each radiotherapy appointment. I didn't stay at my post because it was fun, I was flippin' exhausted. I stayed because I cared about my colleagues' job security - and my own.

My current boss, my friends and my family know I have their back. My dc knows I love the very bones of him. Anyone who can't work it out need their eyes tested IMHO. 🙄

Midge75 · 03/05/2025 18:50

Seventell · 03/05/2025 14:28

I just went to a group today. It was just like a coffee and chat meetup. I was sitting next to a woman from venezuela.

I didnt say anything about how i had been a bit miserable in the UK, and I was lonely.

As i was going into a group with new people and i wanted to be positive, and meet new people.

The Venezuelan lady told me that she was really lonely in the UK, because in Venezuela everyone is so kind and friendly. She said that in venezuela " everyone treats everyone like a friend."

She said that people hadnt been kind to her in the UK. She said she was lonely. Thats how i feel. Its just really lonely.

And before anyone tells her to fuck off back to Venezuela, she is here in the UK doing a masters degree.

I just feel lonely here. But im going to try and keep at it and keep going

I think there are a few things here. You have obviously had a difficult start to your time here, and I'm sorry about that. It is really hard when you feel you don't connect with people.
I do think your writing style here comse across as quite judgmental and antagonistic at times. I don't mean that in a mean way, it's just an observation - the written word is always open to misinterpretation by others as there is no facial expression or tone of voice to go by. This would explain why some people here have reacted to you in an unfriendly way, and you have reacted in turn. Also, I think maybe your interpretation of some words is different from how others would interpret them - 'cruel', for example - when you called one of the posters cruel, I hadn't read anything cruel in their post - it wasn't particularly friendly, but I wouldn't have described it as cruel. So you may feel attacked here, which might in turn affect the tone of your writing, which affects how people respond to you.
About English people being cold and reserved, it certainly is a stereotype that they are reserved, and I have also heard 'unfriendly'. Before I moved to England (only from Wales), someone - interestingly she's originally from England, but has lived in Wales for a long time - told me I would have to be prepared for how unfriendly they were. But it just wasn't my experience at all. Reserved, yes, maybe, but also, it's just a different culture. I have to say that when I joined my new job there, some colleagues were leaving and gave a speech and they all praised the people they worked with and talked about how amazing they were. I had been there several weeks and just couldn't see what they were talking about - I didn't feel at home there, I didn't feel particularly welcome - they would all have a nice time all together, but I didn't feel part of it. However, fast forward four years, I was saying the same thing when I left. It just took time. I'm shy, which didn't help, I'm sure, and there was one girl who definitely didn't warm to me, but I would say that after a few months there, my initial thoughts changed. It just took time for people to warm up, figure me out, etc. The church we belonged to couldn't have been friendlier (although there was another church in the same town where not a single person talked to us when we visited). There is definitely a different culture. My husband used to pop in at people's houses, as is usual in Wales, where you would be welcomed in and get a cup of tea and a good chat, but there, they would keep him on the doorstep. It wasn't unfriendliness, just a different culture.
You can be unlucky though - I have joined a choir near London and it is so friendly. My friend joined one near Oxford and no one spoke to her at all.
Basically, you mustn't generalise. You might settle in at your new job, or you might not, but it isn't necessarily an 'English' thing - there are friendly and less friendly people everywhere.
I do hope things get better and you feel less lonely soon.

Blueskies25 · 03/05/2025 18:34

Seventell · 03/05/2025 18:27

No but im down south

I’m not English but lived and worked ( professionally) in London for 15 yrs, most of my friends were non English (European) as I found a lot of the English very hard work and I just really couldn’t be bothered, this was London though so it’s known for not being a very friendly place

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