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To think that not speaking to your own son is not a good look for the King ?

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Marmaladelover · 02/05/2025 21:08

Don’t get me wrong I think Harry has been a bit of an entitled burk but even so I was shocked that there has not been a reconciliation between Harry and Megan and the King and Queen at least to be civil to each other .
Refusing to even speak just seems like sulking to me !
That said I don’t think Harry telling the world and washing yet more dirty laundry in public is going to help matters .

Maybe some folk will think this comment belongs in the Royal Family thread rather than AIBU but it’s more about mumsnet standards ( sulking is not good ) and whether they should apply to those in high office .

Even JFK and Krushev had a hotline after the Cuban Crisis !

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Mothership4two · 04/05/2025 06:11

From the clips I have seen, I was struck how H never seems to take accountability for his own actions. Maybe that is how he is always portrayed? He said he wants to reconcile with his family and forgives them - zero understanding that this would probably add to the friction and get right up their noses. He always seems to play the victim card.

Also a quick Google shows that in the US H&M fund their own security, so not sure why they feel it would be impossible in the UK. If he comes in an official capacity then, of course, that should (and I guess would) be paid for.

Realitydoesntcare · 04/05/2025 05:48

Harry is such a whiny, childish, vain and ungrateful little shit and he lives in a delusion where he actually thinks he's a cut above. It's not his fault he was raised in that delusion, but he's been an adult and a father for a long time now, and just needs to do better.

Someone in Charles position has to constantly think about treacherous scumbags selling him out to the press. Harry the "stallion", who moaned about Willy being mean to him and breaking his necklace? FFS. How could you be sure that Hasbeen Hazza wouldn't try to monetise your conversation again and tell more lies? Must be heartbreaking for Charles.

Harry must be as dumb as a bag of hammers, I cannot imagine what he thought would happen when he ran squealing to the press and paid someone to write a crappy book whining about his life (have not read but didn't have to all the highlights were all over the internet). Nobody in those circles can afford to be around him now, the King is their leader, they have to show him loyalty or be kicked out of high society too, and nobody would dare have a conversation with him or his Mrs as you'd never know if they were secretly taping you and ready to run to the press. He even dobbed friends in for drug use. What. A. Wanker.

Harry is in a worse position than Edward was with Wallace. He has fucked himself, forever.

Letsummercommence · 04/05/2025 05:17

Also let’s not forget he increased his own security risk by talking about taking out the Taliban “like chess pieces”.

Itsjustlikethat · 04/05/2025 00:38

He said he wanted to reconcile on the one hand, and publicly blamed them for interfering with decision to not grant him security on the other. Im not a fan of Charles but this is not one I’ll hold against him.

Bourbonbonbon · 04/05/2025 00:22

If everything you said to a person was going to be repeated or the fact that you met at all used as a reason to make stuff up, and there was a hefty number of people who would kill you if they could, you might find it reckless to meet them.

CherryVanillaPie · 04/05/2025 00:13

TaraRhu · 03/05/2025 21:38

Isn't the relevation here about the Kings health? He says he doesn't know how long he has left . Is Charles stage 4? Is he dying? Are we being kept from the truth?

The Royal source said

“The remarks about his illness were in particularly poor taste and of course suggest something entirely contrary to the reality”.

https://www.itv.com/news/2025-05-03/royal-source-late-queen-would-be-truly-horrified-by-prince-harry-interview

Letsummercommence · 04/05/2025 00:06

Does it actually matter to the country if KC has weeks or years left? The entire point of Royalty is that we know who is next in line plus there is a plan B ,C etc if that’s needed. There’s no surprises when he does go sooner or later.

CountingDownToSummer · 03/05/2025 23:27

TaraRhu · 03/05/2025 21:38

Isn't the relevation here about the Kings health? He says he doesn't know how long he has left . Is Charles stage 4? Is he dying? Are we being kept from the truth?

There is nothing to keep from us.
King Charles’s health is his business, he is the only one that gets to decide how much information he gives, we are not entitled to be privy to any one’s medical information.

Reetpetitenot · 03/05/2025 23:20

'Of course because of who he is he is recognisable to millions of people and do you think he could really go about his every day life without being constantly pestered and that is the very least of his concerns'

But this is a bit rubbish. Harry's managed to travel to and from the UK several times without anyone being aware of him until he chose to make his presence public. He's said himself in his book that he went shopping etc without anyone noticing.

The reason he's so visible now is because he's put himself there - he's repeatedly done interviews, putting himself in the public eye far more than he ever was as a royal.

Plenty of people, including other members of the rf, seem able to go about their lives with little fuss.

Harry's current situation is entirely of his own making. I'm not surprised his father and brother are keeping their distance. Harry demanding apologies and throwing shade around is doing absolutely nothing to help the situation. He needs to grow up a bit and stop peddling his whinging around the media.

Lighteningstrikes · 03/05/2025 23:16

YABVU
Harry is a complete money grabbing Judas who threw his ENTIRE family under the bus.

Could you forgive that?

LimitedBrightSpots · 03/05/2025 23:04

My own take is that it's an unfortunate situation all round.

Harry had a difficult, even if privileged, upbringing, that has probably given him a lot of paranoia about certain things, some of it justified. His mother was indirectly killed by excessive media attention and he grew up with intense pressure interest in his activities. Also, it was always going to be difficult for him leaving the Royal Family - he's not exactly brains of Britain and has an expensive lifestyle (including necessary security, so not entirely his own choice) with limited ways to fund it independently except selling dirt on his family.

His father (quite rightly in my view) doesn't want to say a word more than necessary to Harry in case it's fed back to the press. Which makes a reconciliation almost impossible. His brother probably doesn't want him near him or his family for the same reason.

Harry has two young children and I think he genuinely believes that, without a very high level of security, their safety may be at risk. Given the intense media interest in Royal children generally, combined with the toxicity towards Meghan in this country, he's probably not wrong that there is a fairly high level of risk towards his family.

Serpentstooth · 03/05/2025 22:08

It's not your business is it? The King's health is his own concern until he wants to share it. Leave him alone. How would you like your health discussed on MN? Then multiply that by thousands.

Mylovelygreendress · 03/05/2025 22:06

TaraRhu · 03/05/2025 21:38

Isn't the relevation here about the Kings health? He says he doesn't know how long he has left . Is Charles stage 4? Is he dying? Are we being kept from the truth?

No idea however I think Harry saying that was shameful and his way of putting pressure on his father to resolve things as even Harry must know that when William is king there is absolutely zero chance of any reconciliation.
As a cancer survivor I would be horrified to think my adult DC were speculating in public about how long I had to live!

TaraRhu · 03/05/2025 21:38

Isn't the relevation here about the Kings health? He says he doesn't know how long he has left . Is Charles stage 4? Is he dying? Are we being kept from the truth?

Highfivemum · 03/05/2025 21:23

When ur Dad has cancer and you say we don’t know how long they have that is a truly awful thing to say and he wanted max affect. He needs to stay in USA and not
come back. He caused so much hurt for the Queen and Prince Phillip. And now for Charles as he battles cancer and William and Katherine. I have no words

TheAutumnCrow · 03/05/2025 20:15

Needspaceforlego · 03/05/2025 20:03

Hahaha 😆 can you picture them getting in the taxi queue 🤣

Or they could get the tube to Victoria and walk up Buckingham Palace Road. There’s quite a nice pub there.

Needspaceforlego · 03/05/2025 20:03

Serpentstooth · 03/05/2025 20:01

Are we seriously expected to believe that PH and family would be left at Heathrow, unescorted and waiting for the train because his dad's too mean and brother too jealous, to afford them protection? Twaddle. He wants equivalence with his brother. Not and never has, or will be, on the cards. This is another 'expose my wicked family' story. Netflix and publishers, line up, cheque books out please.

Hahaha 😆 can you picture them getting in the taxi queue 🤣

Serpentstooth · 03/05/2025 20:01

Are we seriously expected to believe that PH and family would be left at Heathrow, unescorted and waiting for the train because his dad's too mean and brother too jealous, to afford them protection? Twaddle. He wants equivalence with his brother. Not and never has, or will be, on the cards. This is another 'expose my wicked family' story. Netflix and publishers, line up, cheque books out please.

tinyspiny · 03/05/2025 18:34

RobinStrike · 03/05/2025 16:22

It seems that Harry’s only income is from spilling gossip on his family. Nothing else seems to be bringing in the money. As his family I wouldn’t like my health, family life or conversations being used to fund his lifestyle.

Exactly , particularly when he adds his own unique spin on things which seems to be in the most part far from reality but necessary to make him the family victim .

Needspaceforlego · 03/05/2025 18:14

RobinStrike · 03/05/2025 16:22

It seems that Harry’s only income is from spilling gossip on his family. Nothing else seems to be bringing in the money. As his family I wouldn’t like my health, family life or conversations being used to fund his lifestyle.

That's it exactly and there is nothing Charles or William could do to stop him. There only option is to stop him getting stories to sell.

CountingDownToSummer · 03/05/2025 16:30

Regardless of whether he is the king or not I think many parents would grow weary of a child who tittle tattles to anyone who will listen and be very wary of what that child could divulge.

RobinStrike · 03/05/2025 16:22

It seems that Harry’s only income is from spilling gossip on his family. Nothing else seems to be bringing in the money. As his family I wouldn’t like my health, family life or conversations being used to fund his lifestyle.

BruFord · 03/05/2025 15:35

Superhansrantowindsor · 03/05/2025 15:27

Perhaps they should call his bluff. Put all the security back and see if he returns. Somehow I doubt it.

@Superhansrantowindsor Would you want your taxes spent on it though? It’s been made clear that individuals can’t personally pay for this type of security so KC can’t step in and fund it.

I think there’s better ways to spend taxpayer money tbh.

Superhansrantowindsor · 03/05/2025 15:27

Perhaps they should call his bluff. Put all the security back and see if he returns. Somehow I doubt it.

BruFord · 03/05/2025 15:25

That said, it's wrong he hasn't had hasn't a risk management assessment in 5 years and that should be independent of the Royal Household.

I agree, @Leafy3 , it’s high time that another risk assessment was conducted.

My feeling is that such an assessment won’t yield the results that PH believes it will though. I think it would determine a far lower risk level to them than in 2020, because they’re lower profile than they were five years ago and they’re so distanced ( literally and figuratively) from the RF now.

It’s not his fault tbh, he was brought up as a one of the top VIP’s in the UK with constant attention trained on him. His wedding was a major national event, etc. It must be v. difficult to comprehend that the public are far less interested in him/his family now, and that even the worst racists who threatened MM in the past probably don’t see her as relevant anymore.

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