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To think that not speaking to your own son is not a good look for the King ?

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Marmaladelover · 02/05/2025 21:08

Don’t get me wrong I think Harry has been a bit of an entitled burk but even so I was shocked that there has not been a reconciliation between Harry and Megan and the King and Queen at least to be civil to each other .
Refusing to even speak just seems like sulking to me !
That said I don’t think Harry telling the world and washing yet more dirty laundry in public is going to help matters .

Maybe some folk will think this comment belongs in the Royal Family thread rather than AIBU but it’s more about mumsnet standards ( sulking is not good ) and whether they should apply to those in high office .

Even JFK and Krushev had a hotline after the Cuban Crisis !

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DutchEmerald · 02/05/2025 21:43

He nailed his colours to the MM and Oprah mast, he chose money over family and constantly plays the victim card. I don't like his dad but I don't blame him for not bothering with the whinger.

Fiver555 · 02/05/2025 21:40

Charles did indeed pack his children off to boarding school, but I'm sure Diana had a say in that too. And isn't there an interview with Harry where he says that he talked over the walking behind the coffin with Prince Philip, and made the decision himself?

I have some sympathy for Harry over the security while in the UK, but he twists and minimises things so much that I can't like him any more. Saying his family are angry with him for 'writing a book' - it's not like he wrote a children's fairy story is it? They are angry that he wrote THAT book. Not A book.

moose62 · 02/05/2025 21:40

Harry has slagged off and insulted nearly every one of his family. He has insulted his father's wife and deeply upset his brother and his sister in law.....but its really good to know that he forgives them. Perhaps someone should explain to him that they don't forgive him given that he has never apologised and keeps rubbing salt in the wound with his continual woe is me act.
I'm so bored of him and wish the press would lose interest and stop giving him the publicity he craves.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 02/05/2025 21:40

Speaking to Harry means millions are listening in.

I wouldn’t.

NonComm · 02/05/2025 21:40

@HRTQueen
@MrsCravensworth
Agreed.
Charles also wrote a book criticising his parents and yet they didn’t ‘grey rock’ or go NC with him.
Charles cheated on Diana.
Charles married the mistress.
Charles allowed the press to bully H&M
Charles is the parent and should fix it with his son if he has any decency left in him.
Also, a retired senior Met officer (who will be better informed than any of us) confirmed that H & M’s lives were in danger.
H&M will never get fair treatment in this country.

Aizen · 02/05/2025 21:38

How do we know what goes on behind the closed doors of Royalty Gardens anyway.

For all we know this could be cooked up by the meeja. Has H actually said anything that has been corroborated by KC and his missus? Has William said anything? Not that I know of so who the heck knows?

They could be whatsapping all day with pics of the kids.

Without any personal knowledge AT ALL, I would agree that Charles is a snake in the grass, and quite frankly he doesn't impress me at all. I compare him to my late father and there is just nothing, nothing that would improve my view of KC with that comparison.

So, let them at it, I wish KC good health, Harry a happy life, William a kick up the eighties to do a bit of work now and then, and well, I really don't care much about any of them anyway, but don't wish ill will either. Why would I?

Pallisers · 02/05/2025 21:37

If Charles isn't speaking to him who'd blame him. The constant interviews and lies - who in the right mind would put up with that from a family member.

Who indeed? Of course when they were children both William and Harry had to put up with both their parents plastering their marriage and affairs all over the world with tell-alls/interviews/leaks/books etc.

Gowlett · 02/05/2025 21:35

It’s a bit scary for the RF that Meghan knows everything.

They need to be careful, she will cash in once divorced…

MoominMai · 02/05/2025 21:35

King is probably just protecting himself. Harry seems to twist whatever encounters he has to suit his and his wife’s narrative and the whole thing is just ridiculous. They made it clear they both felt traumatised by the Royal Family and wanted to break away but then demand titles for their kids?! And are so poorly mannered even use the Queens pet nickname as a formal first name for their daughter. I think KC just sees through him now and the betrayal from Harry compounded by his ‘Spare’ book has consequences he needs to suck up.

Rictasmorticia · 02/05/2025 21:30

We only have Harry’s word. I expect there maybe some subjects he won’t discuss, like the Court Case and security. I expect they talk about the children. The overly dramatic “I don’t know how long he has to live” seems typical.

Busbygirl · 02/05/2025 21:30

Why do you believe what Harry is saying?
He’s a proven liar!
His father might have tried to make contact for all we know.
Walking behind the coffin has no connection with his latest interview. Maybe Charles thought he was doing the right thing at the time.
I don’t believe a word that comes out of Harry’s mouth.

MrsCravensworth · 02/05/2025 21:30

HRTQueen · 02/05/2025 21:14

He allowed his sons to walk behind their mothers coffin at her funeral while the world watch all for the royal image

he packed them back off to boarding school when their were grieving

he had no intentions of ever being faithful and choose a bride that suited his needs and watched her mental health spiral and did nothing

what makes you think Charles is a nice guy he has never had a reputation of being nice

Absolute prick of a man.

GoodVibesHere · 02/05/2025 21:29

I can't imagine there would be much to say though. Harry has chosen a very different path.

pimplebum · 02/05/2025 21:28

We have no idea how much they are in contact

lots of kings in history had terrible relationships with their sons

I would imagine they are both more concerned with how it feels than how it looks

FacingTheWall · 02/05/2025 21:28

I wouldn’t speak to him either if he was my son. You’d never know what he’d do with the conversations.

HRTQueen · 02/05/2025 21:28

Lesina · 02/05/2025 21:21

This 100%. What ‘ the firm’ did to those children to satisfy the ghoulish demands of ‘the people’ was barbaric. He was 13 years old and expected to display his grief like an entertainment show. Horrific

Absolutely Lesina

if we had had social media then I do believe there would have been people speaking out

it’s absolutely heartbreaking to see

another point Camilla happily entertains Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan and we all know their utter vile comments towards Megan

CagneyNYPD1 · 02/05/2025 21:27

All families can be tricky. I do think that Harry genuinely believes that what he is saying is the truth. But it may not be the whole truth.

I do have some sympathy for Harry and I do think he was right to leave. I also think he should have armed police protection from the British police when on British soil.

But I can also appreciate that for KC, the trust has been broken. It is often said on this forum that sometimes it is better to break contact with family members for your own well being. Harry puts KC in impossible situations. Perhaps with his own, serious health concerns, KC just can’t deal with it all.

Marmaladelover · 02/05/2025 21:26

I admit I am wondering if Harry is telling the truth I suspect what happens though is the King doesn’t phone him and won’t accept calls from Harry - maybe they go through a switchboard / personal secretary .
I am guessing since I get most ( all ) of my knowledge of royal protocol from watching The Crown Grin

I did smile at the pp comment that if the King was on Mumsnet we would advise him to go NC Except isn’t that usually reserved for the adult child rather than the parent ?

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Chumsky · 02/05/2025 21:24

Yeah but how the hell does he? The trust has completely gone & it’s not exactly a normal dysfunctional family that’s had a rift or falling out!! It’s an impossible situation.

categorychaos · 02/05/2025 21:23

Darkambergingerlily · 02/05/2025 21:15

Why would anyone want to talk to someone who runs to the press and repeats every conversation with embellishments?

i suppose you could talk and just keep the topic on the weather?!

Because they are a parent of said “someone”. I can’t imagine ever not speaking to my child even if they were wayward or dishonest (or worse). I’m probably very naive though!

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 02/05/2025 21:22

ArminTamzerian · 02/05/2025 21:17

If you're the actual King, what does it matter what "look" there is? You're the King. It's not like you can be voted off.

Voted OUT. Thankfully, the royal family is not yet a reality TV show...

Lesina · 02/05/2025 21:21

HRTQueen · 02/05/2025 21:14

He allowed his sons to walk behind their mothers coffin at her funeral while the world watch all for the royal image

he packed them back off to boarding school when their were grieving

he had no intentions of ever being faithful and choose a bride that suited his needs and watched her mental health spiral and did nothing

what makes you think Charles is a nice guy he has never had a reputation of being nice

This 100%. What ‘ the firm’ did to those children to satisfy the ghoulish demands of ‘the people’ was barbaric. He was 13 years old and expected to display his grief like an entertainment show. Horrific

nocoolnamesleft · 02/05/2025 21:19

But he knows anything he says to Harry will be instantly regurgitated to the world in either an interview or a book.

Snorlaxo · 02/05/2025 21:19

If it’s true, then I think that he’s doing the right thing because the damage that Harry does by leaking gossip to the press isn’t good for either side. Harry can only leak and monetise what he knows and cutting Harry off from the info means that he’s less likely to be blindsided.

Basically he’s grey rocking which is the advice given to normal families.

yeesh · 02/05/2025 21:18

Lol