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To think that not speaking to your own son is not a good look for the King ?

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Marmaladelover · 02/05/2025 21:08

Don’t get me wrong I think Harry has been a bit of an entitled burk but even so I was shocked that there has not been a reconciliation between Harry and Megan and the King and Queen at least to be civil to each other .
Refusing to even speak just seems like sulking to me !
That said I don’t think Harry telling the world and washing yet more dirty laundry in public is going to help matters .

Maybe some folk will think this comment belongs in the Royal Family thread rather than AIBU but it’s more about mumsnet standards ( sulking is not good ) and whether they should apply to those in high office .

Even JFK and Krushev had a hotline after the Cuban Crisis !

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JudgeJ · 02/05/2025 22:01

MereNoelle · 02/05/2025 21:17

I assume he’s concerned that if he talks to Harry, Harry will put the conversations in his next book.

Harry will put his version of the conversations in his next riveting book, or the person who actually writes it will.

Sunholidays · 02/05/2025 22:01

The King is right and he’s doing what he has to. He cannot trust Harry, a deluded lier with a toxic personality. Sadly he needed to go NC.

Viviennemary · 02/05/2025 21:59

Harry is a mega troublemaker. The king has got enough yo worry about without listening to Harry's constant whining.

PotolKimchi · 02/05/2025 21:58

@CagneyNYPD1 He will get the highest security if he comes to the UK with 30 days notice and asks to stay in a Royal household. I assume they will whisk him from Heathrow to Buckingham Palace and certainly when he and his family meet his father or brother even in private there will be plenty of security.

It might well be that his father and brother don’t want to meet him.

But it’s very clear from the judgement that he does get security when he’s in the UK. They don’t reveal if their guards are armed or not because they can’t. But I suspect sometimes they are. He can’t pay for his own armed protection because no one can here. So there is a contradiction right. Either he trusts the Met and their judgement. Or he doesn’t. If he doesn’t why has he just spent tax payer money and his own money asking for MORE protection from the same people he doesn’t trust?!

HRTQueen · 02/05/2025 21:58

Not sure how Diana had a say in her sons going back to boarding school when she was dead

My son made decisions at 13 that were not good for him. As a parent I made the final decision

as for Harry having a chat with Prince Philip hardly known for his empathetic nature Charles informed the public of this

JudgeJ · 02/05/2025 21:58

DinaofCloud9 · 02/05/2025 21:10

I wouldn't believe just what Harry is saying to be honest.

If Harry said It's raining, I would go to the window to check.

BownnTown · 02/05/2025 21:57

Carodebalo · 02/05/2025 21:49

I think you may be right. I just wonder, if you’re Prince Harry, why you would want the whole world to know you’re not of royal descent at all?

Because that would explain why

  1. hes messed up mentally
  2. the king doesn’t want to talk to him
  3. nobody is bothered about his security

it would validate everything he’s been saying

ThedaBara · 02/05/2025 21:57

At the end of the interview Harry says that there are 'some who want history to repeat itself' in reference to Diana. It's absolutely awful, it just comes across as though there is nothing he won't say. Is he employing that there are people in his family who want him or his wife dead?? He comes across as completely deluded, and I'm not surprised that his father and brother who are supporting eachother through their cancer journeys don't have any energy for a chat about the weather with him.

Marmaladelover · 02/05/2025 21:56

@YesHonestly
fir a moment , when I read “ The Crown” I thought you meant the Netflix drama! [ grin]

I agree that trust is broken but it seems a complete downward spiral so I am not sure the present situation is sustainable .

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MrsCravensworth · 02/05/2025 21:56

Gowlett · 02/05/2025 21:35

It’s a bit scary for the RF that Meghan knows everything.

They need to be careful, she will cash in once divorced…

Good. I hope she blows the lid on the lot of them.

GiddyCrab · 02/05/2025 21:55

Darkambergingerlily · 02/05/2025 21:15

Why would anyone want to talk to someone who runs to the press and repeats every conversation with embellishments?

i suppose you could talk and just keep the topic on the weather?!

This

caringcarer · 02/05/2025 21:55

MereNoelle · 02/05/2025 21:17

I assume he’s concerned that if he talks to Harry, Harry will put the conversations in his next book.

That or a Netflix. Harry has proven time and again he can't be trusted. Once William is King I think he'll try to take away Harry & Meghan's HRH titles and maybe Duke and Duchess of Sussex too.

Livpool · 02/05/2025 21:54

HRTQueen · 02/05/2025 21:14

He allowed his sons to walk behind their mothers coffin at her funeral while the world watch all for the royal image

he packed them back off to boarding school when their were grieving

he had no intentions of ever being faithful and choose a bride that suited his needs and watched her mental health spiral and did nothing

what makes you think Charles is a nice guy he has never had a reputation of being nice

I don’t think Charles is a good man - but I don’t think Harry is either. All they have known is entitlement and it shows.

But selling your family secrets for £££ (or $$$!) isn’t ever going to end well. I wouldn’t trust someone who is known to have a price.

Needspaceforlego · 02/05/2025 21:54

Pancakeflipper · 02/05/2025 21:15

I think once trust breaks down it can be tricky to reconcile.

It's not like your average family - this is a member of the family who seems to continually "sell" family conversations to the media for their own means.

It must be heartbreaking and infuriating. But I guess the sensible option is to step away.

If KC was to be on MN and say what H has done over the last 5 years, we'd probably be telling him NC.

I think that it exactly.
All trust is lost. Charles and William must feel like they are on egg shells round him. What is he going to tell the press next?

Nothing is private to Harry including their private parts. That was quite literally below the belt!

YesHonestly · 02/05/2025 21:52

The Crown comes before anything and everything.

Harry is a liability. It’s the King’s duty to protect the family and the country, he can’t risk anything he says being repeated in the press or on Netflix.

I am not a royalist and actually quite like Harry and Meghan.

blueleavesgreensky · 02/05/2025 21:51

blubberyboo · 02/05/2025 21:17

The King has a duty to protect the country. Why would he trust 2 people who sell everything to Netflix?

Besides we don't even know how much they do or don't speak

Protect the country? Hahaaaa.

GeorgianaM · 02/05/2025 21:50

He knows anything he says to Harry will be repeated in another book or interview with the sole purpose of lining Harry's pockets.

All of it has been orchestrated by his wife, she who must be obeyed who has cut off her own father.

TheOriginalEmu · 02/05/2025 21:50

Many things that family have done are not a good look and yet there they still are. Maybe it’s time we didn’t have a royal family.

Mumsgirls · 02/05/2025 21:49

Who would want to speak to someone you cannot trust. He could lie and say anything and is not au fait with reality. Diana equally packed her young sons off as young as possible. Her own brother is an example of the damage that was done. Yet Diana was simpered about as a wonderful mother.
For me the wonderful mothers are the ones who work themselves into the ground to provide, do all the care every day and often alone

Carodebalo · 02/05/2025 21:49

BownnTown · 02/05/2025 21:44

When Harry said there are still truths that have not yet been told and “they’re out there already if you bother to look” I think he was on about his real parentage

I think you may be right. I just wonder, if you’re Prince Harry, why you would want the whole world to know you’re not of royal descent at all?

ticktickticktickBOOM · 02/05/2025 21:48

Bloody hell. It's all him, him, him.

Both his dad, and his brothers wife had cancer last year and all he talks about is himself. Still!

He left the UK as he wanted to start a new life away from royalty and the press, now he says he misses it and wants to bring his children to his 'homeland' (😆he's only been away a few years)

. . . and continually seeks publicity, much more so than any other royal!!

He's a twat.

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 02/05/2025 21:48

Refresh you history of royal houses from our pre-conquest days on to today.
It's all rather tame in comparison.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 02/05/2025 21:45

Marmaladelover · 02/05/2025 21:08

Don’t get me wrong I think Harry has been a bit of an entitled burk but even so I was shocked that there has not been a reconciliation between Harry and Megan and the King and Queen at least to be civil to each other .
Refusing to even speak just seems like sulking to me !
That said I don’t think Harry telling the world and washing yet more dirty laundry in public is going to help matters .

Maybe some folk will think this comment belongs in the Royal Family thread rather than AIBU but it’s more about mumsnet standards ( sulking is not good ) and whether they should apply to those in high office .

Even JFK and Krushev had a hotline after the Cuban Crisis !

Exactly this.

BownnTown · 02/05/2025 21:44

When Harry said there are still truths that have not yet been told and “they’re out there already if you bother to look” I think he was on about his real parentage

Boreded · 02/05/2025 21:43

HRTQueen · 02/05/2025 21:14

He allowed his sons to walk behind their mothers coffin at her funeral while the world watch all for the royal image

he packed them back off to boarding school when their were grieving

he had no intentions of ever being faithful and choose a bride that suited his needs and watched her mental health spiral and did nothing

what makes you think Charles is a nice guy he has never had a reputation of being nice

He is and always will be a total plank